2007 Tundra already winning awards?

Ktulu

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http://www.autobytel.com/content/shared..._page_order_int/26/article_id_int/2305

Toyota Tundra ? Best New Pickup: This is gonna be fun. The Tundra just barely bests the Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra offerings, thanks to its interior and more advanced powertrain choices. Fact is, however, either would make an admirable choice: the GM trucks offer a more comfortable interior that?s superbly executed, a smoother ride and more configurations, while the Tundra simply out muscles the Sierra/Silverado with its engines, six-speed transmission, innovative interior and sheer, brutish size. This is what contractors and workers want from a full-size truck, and, considering that they make up more than 40 percent of the buyers, the Tundra wins.

Interesting how the Silverado/Sierra are already selling while the Tundra isn't even sitting on dealer lots. :confused:

Media bias anyone.
 

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Yep, I was pissed off when I saw how the new Tundra is automatically better than the Silverado anf F series in Motor Trend without MT even having it yet to test, and the features they listed were the same as what chevy and ford have to offer.

It's just like the people that said the Avanlanche was ugly as hell, but then went and bought a Ridgeline which looks the same.

I still read MT and C/D but it gets increasingly annoying how they like to blow the creators of any new honda or toyota for being original, when it is just more of the same ******.


 

DougK62

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LOL, there is so much wrong with the OPs quote that I don't even know where to begin...hahahahah....

 

Ryan

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Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.

Instead of actually earning it, gotcha.

 

PricklyPete

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I swear...that is just one freak'n ugly truck.

I'd pick a Silverado/Sierra over that any day of the week.
 

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This has been going on for years. The japanese, in many cases, do build higher quality automobiles vs the U.S., but there has always been a lot of bias toward them. It's almost as if Japanese automobiles are given an extra 15% extra credit just for being made in Japan.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.

Instead of actually earning it, gotcha.

What credentials do you have to say that the praise isn't warranted?
 

LordMorpheus

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God, the toyota truck is hideous. The front has all this crazy sh!t going on and then from the hood back it's just flat peices of metal. It's like a 1980's chevy rear ended a current toyota truck.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
God, the toyota truck is hideous. The front has all this crazy sh!t going on and then from the hood back it's just flat peices of metal. It's like a 1980's chevy rear ended a current toyota truck.

it almost looks like a mid 90's ford truck.
 

foghorn67

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Yikes, that looks horrible. If it was a person, it would look like somebody got their lower lip pulled over their nose, then got punched in the face.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.
You mean Toyota is buying as much good press as they can get.

 

Vic

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edit: gah double post... what's up with the forums today?

 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.
You mean Toyota is buying as much good press as they can get.

It's not as if Toyota isn't a darling of the press right now. They've got the proper execution on nearly every front. I say part good marketing, part reputation.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.
You mean Toyota is buying as much good press as they can get.

It's not as if Toyota isn't a darling of the press right now. They've got the proper execution on nearly every front. I say part good marketing, part reputation.

Spending a lot of money on advertising copy doesn't hurt if you want good reviews either.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.

Instead of actually earning it, gotcha.

What credentials do you have to say that the praise isn't warranted?

So then you believe it is right to praise a vehicle that has not even hit the showroom simply because of it's name?
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Interesting how the Silverado/Sierra are already selling while the first production Tundra hasn't even been built. :confused:

Media bias anyone.

How about you get your facts straight before bitching?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/ne...toyota-tundra-rolls-of-production-line

OP fixed.

Now can you kindly point me in the direction of a dealer that has the new Tundra in stock. Oh that's right, that won't be for months.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.

Instead of actually earning it, gotcha.

What credentials do you have to say that the praise isn't warranted?

So then you believe it is right to praise a vehicle that has not even hit the showroom simply because of it's name?
The automotive press praises vehicles ALL THE TIME before they are released (pre-production vehicles). Hell, 99% of the time, a "First Drive" of a vehicle is almost always positive with glowing praise.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.

Instead of actually earning it, gotcha.

What credentials do you have to say that the praise isn't warranted?

So then you believe it is right to praise a vehicle that has not even hit the showroom simply because of it's name?

Considering Toyota has already let people review them, held many events to for reporters, I don't see any problem with someone who has had first hand experience with them making an opinion.
 

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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Ryan
Actually - the San Antonio plant that builds the Tundra went operational on November 17th, production has already started.

This is just the first in a wave of reviews/awards for the Tundra. Toyota is taking this launch seriously - and the press is giving them anything they want.

Instead of actually earning it, gotcha.

What credentials do you have to say that the praise isn't warranted?

So then you believe it is right to praise a vehicle that has not even hit the showroom simply because of it's name?

Considering Toyota has already let people review them, held many events to for reporters, I don't see any problem with someone who has had first hand experience with them making an opinion.

While that may be true in some cases, most of the reviews and previews I have read about it go something like "While we are waiting to test one, we can say now that this is going to be the best pick up truck yet) and then they go to list features that have been in the ford and chevy trucks since the 90's. Hell even one magazine (forget which one, might have been Automobile) said "Bottom Line: It's a Toyota" and proceeded to give it 5 stars in its buyer's guide when it clearly stated that it hadn't even driven one yet.

 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
This has been going on for years. The japanese, in many cases, do build higher quality automobiles vs the U.S., but there has always been a lot of bias toward them. It's almost as if Japanese automobiles are given an extra 15% extra credit just for being made in Japan.

Used to build higher quality IMO.
 

CFster

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Yeah, that truck will suck.

I mean, it's not like Toyota has gotten ANYTHING right in the past five years...

:roll: