2007 Honda Accord Engine Failure

[fstime]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: BouZouki
What about Audi's idiotic idea of putting the chain in the rear of the 4.2 engine, I think you have to remove the whole engine to replace the tensioners which tend to wear after a short period of time.

Believe me, if you see the complexity of that engine, it would scare most.

Guess it wasn't such a good idea to mount their engines 2 inches behind the radiator.

WTF are you talking about? The old 4.2 had a timing belt in the front and the new one has a chain...

I'm talking about the 4.2 out of the Audi S4.

And from your post, it sounds like you knew what I was talking about.

Haha 0 reading comprehension on my part, i thought you said the timing belt is in the rear ...

Heres a picture from another forum. This would make most look forward to doing their timing belts.

http://www.nogaroblue.com/cars/s4v8.jpg

Finally came to the conclusion that my 2004 S4's knocking noise at warm idle is a timing chain tensioner. Has anyone had any experience with this? A local shop suggested a thicker oil may help the noise and the problem will not likely get worse. Does this seem resopnable or is it just wishfull thinking? Pulling the engine and replacing tensioners is about $5000. The car has 100k and runs fine but I do not want to blast the engine for taking the cheap route. Thanks for any thoughts or comments.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Heres a picture from another forum. This would make most look forward to doing their timing belts.

http://www.nogaroblue.com/cars/s4v8.jpg

I want my mommy...

 

[alphatarget1]

And I thought only American cars can be lemons...

 

[jeffrey]

Update

When dealer went to install the oil pump, they discovered the oil pan had been cross-threaded and there were some bits of aluminum in the bottom of the pan. New oil pan was ordered on Friday and installed on Saturday. I've been told the car is good to go. I'm going tomorrow to check things out.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: thecritic

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
A lot cheaper and easier to just remember to change your oil on time. If you don't, you deserve to have your motor blow up
I know chains aren't bulletproof, but a metal chain by nature is stronger than a rubber belt and much less likely to break. That's all.

Breakage isn't the only issue with chains.

Chain stretch also occurs, but the tensioner takes care of that.

Rubber belts stretch more than a chain does I'm sure

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Heres a picture from another forum. This would make most look forward to doing their timing belts.

http://www.nogaroblue.com/cars/s4v8.jpg

:Q

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
And I thought only American cars can be lemons...

You obviously thought wrong. Plenty of lemons from toyota/honda/etc out there as well. Everybody has lemons, NO company is perfect (sorry fanboys, it's true )

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: BouZouki
What about Audi's idiotic idea of putting the chain in the rear of the 4.2 engine, I think you have to remove the whole engine to replace the tensioners which tend to wear after a short period of time.

Believe me, if you see the complexity of that engine, it would scare most.

Guess it wasn't such a good idea to mount their engines 2 inches behind the radiator.

WTF are you talking about? The old 4.2 had a timing belt in the front and the new one has a chain...

I'm talking about the 4.2 out of the Audi S4.

And from your post, it sounds like you knew what I was talking about.

Haha 0 reading comprehension on my part, i thought you said the timing belt is in the rear ...

Heres a picture from another forum. This would make most look forward to doing their timing belts.

http://www.nogaroblue.com/cars/s4v8.jpg

Finally came to the conclusion that my 2004 S4's knocking noise at warm idle is a timing chain tensioner. Has anyone had any experience with this? A local shop suggested a thicker oil may help the noise and the problem will not likely get worse. Does this seem resopnable or is it just wishfull thinking? Pulling the engine and replacing tensioners is about $5000. The car has 100k and runs fine but I do not want to blast the engine for taking the cheap route. Thanks for any thoughts or comments.

Weird,
from what I've been reading on audiworld, only a handful of people had that issue. The timing chain and tensioner have no maintenance schedule.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: jeffrey
Update

When dealer went to install the oil pump, they discovered the oil pan had been cross-threaded and there were some bits of aluminum in the bottom of the pan. New oil pan was ordered on Friday and installed on Saturday. I've been told the car is good to go. I'm going tomorrow to check things out.

err...this is getting fishier and fishier...

 

[LTC8K6]

Must have been the drain plug that was cross threaded...

I think that Honda is haunted...

 

[StageLeft]

That sucks. I have a neighbor with a brand new odyssey they got several months ago. A couple of thousand miles (yes, only a couple or few K) while driving along the road the car ceased to move. A couple of weeks later they had their van back after around $15k in repairs (clearly, Honda paid the entire bill). They needed a brand new engine, at the least. How a new engine installed costs $15k is beyond me, but anyway, that's what the repair bill was that they looked at.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: jeffrey
Update

When dealer went to install the oil pump, they discovered the oil pan had been cross-threaded and there were some bits of aluminum in the bottom of the pan. New oil pan was ordered on Friday and installed on Saturday. I've been told the car is good to go. I'm going tomorrow to check things out.

err...this is getting fishier and fishier...

agreed. something not right is going on. make sure you keep the honda regional manager updated on this

 

[Deviant Grasshopper]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: jeffrey
Update

When dealer went to install the oil pump, they discovered the oil pan had been cross-threaded and there were some bits of aluminum in the bottom of the pan. New oil pan was ordered on Friday and installed on Saturday. I've been told the car is good to go. I'm going tomorrow to check things out.

err...this is getting fishier and fishier...

agreed. something not right is going on. make sure you keep the honda regional manager updated on this

+1 - what caused the low oil pressure issue?

 

[evident]

any update, dude?

 

[sdifox]

op we need to know what else happened?

 

[jeffrey]

Conclusion added to first post.

 

[bruceb]

Is that the same dealership that now did the engine repairs ? ? ? If so, I would not let them near my oil changes again.