2007 Audi A3 2.0T

[mrSHEiK124]

Sex, or not sex? I soooo want one of these things, seems like it'd be a blast to drive.

 

[InlineFive]

It's a pity that even with a turbocharger it only attains 200HP. Although granted it is a pretty sweet looking car. :thumbsup:

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: InlineFive
It's a pity that even with a turbocharger it only attains 200HP. Although granted it is a pretty sweet looking car. :thumbsup:

I love the interior, looks a lot nicer than you would expect on a high $20k car.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

 

[GTaudiophile]

That engine has a stellar rep. No matter what people say about it only having 200 HP.

 

[sniperruff]

it's a GTI with fancy interior. i'd rather get the GTI.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

It has two clutches, which essentially allow it to shift a lot faster than a standard automatic. When in reference to a manual, it has paddle shifters that because of the extra clutch are a lot more responsive than those of a standard automatic. How DSG works?

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

It has two clutches, which essentially allow it to shift a lot faster than a standard automatic. When in reference to a manual, it has paddle shifters that because of the extra clutch are a lot more responsive than those of a standard automatic. How DSG works?

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

I think you mentioned that same chip in a thread about the new Jetta GLI. I have it bookmarked somewhere

Definitely something to think about if I get one of these. $500, to get 25% more power out of my engine? FVCK YES.

EDIT: The A3 has paddle shifters, so it's what they'd call a manual DSG?

 

[ViviTheMage]

sex sex

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

It has two clutches, which essentially allow it to shift a lot faster than a standard automatic. When in reference to a manual, it has paddle shifters that because of the extra clutch are a lot more responsive than those of a standard automatic. How DSG works?

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

I think you mentioned that same chip in a thread about the new Jetta GLI. I have it bookmarked somewhere

Definitely something to think about if I get one of these. $500, to get 25% more power out of my engine? FVCK YES.

EDIT: The A3 has paddle shifters, so it's what they'd call a manual DSG?

I'm 90% sure it has paddle shifters, but I highly doubt that Audi would call it a manual, reviewers and owners might say that, but I doubt that its advertised that way. I was just trying to find a way to justify it.

 

[Caesar]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

It has two clutches, which essentially allow it to shift a lot faster than a standard automatic. When in reference to a manual, it has paddle shifters that because of the extra clutch are a lot more responsive than those of a standard automatic. How DSG works?

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

I think you mentioned that same chip in a thread about the new Jetta GLI. I have it bookmarked somewhere

Definitely something to think about if I get one of these. $500, to get 25% more power out of my engine? FVCK YES.

EDIT: The A3 has paddle shifters, so it's what they'd call a manual DSG?

Remember that a chip will void your warranty

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: CaesaR

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

It has two clutches, which essentially allow it to shift a lot faster than a standard automatic. When in reference to a manual, it has paddle shifters that because of the extra clutch are a lot more responsive than those of a standard automatic. How DSG works?

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

I think you mentioned that same chip in a thread about the new Jetta GLI. I have it bookmarked somewhere

Definitely something to think about if I get one of these. $500, to get 25% more power out of my engine? FVCK YES.

EDIT: The A3 has paddle shifters, so it's what they'd call a manual DSG?

Remember that a chip will void your warranty

So not about to do that to a new car

 

[ultravox]

it's a GTI with fancy interior. i'd rather get the GTI.

Yeah ..........riiiight !

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

Here we go again ....... and you could add one of those breather kits too for another 25% and whle you're at it, a fat exhaust tip...that should squeeze out another 10% ....


I wonder if you could sell that information to those maroons that work at the Audi Engineering Dept.

 

[ultravox]

Originally posted by: ultravox

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

Yeah ..........riiiight !

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

Here we go again ....... and you could add one of those breather kits too for another 25% and whle you're at it, a fat exhaust tip...that should squeeze out another 10% ....


I wonder if you could sell that information to those maroons that work at the Audi Engineering Dept.

 

[Trikat]

Bah a hatchback. For that it kinda looses its sporty appeal, but everything else is just awsome. Would definitely take this over most other cars.
http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A3.html

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: ultravox

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

Here we go again ....... and you could add one of those breather kits too for another 25% and whle you're at it, a fat exhaust tip...that should squeeze out another 10% ....


I wonder if you could sell that information to those maroons that work at the Audi Engineering Dept.

Here we go again? It is well known that the 2.0T engine is detuned in order to no give some room for the 3.2 V6. Audi even used a chipped 2.0T in their own S3, to produce 250hp.

I'm not one to support fat exhaust tips, or breather kits, and I do not think that a chip falls in the same category.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
What's the real difference between a DSG, a manual, and an auto? I hear the DSG referred to as both a DSG automatic AND a DSG manual, it's confusing

It has two clutches, which essentially allow it to shift a lot faster than a standard automatic. When in reference to a manual, it has paddle shifters that because of the extra clutch are a lot more responsive than those of a standard automatic. How DSG works?

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should!

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: ultravox

it's a GTI with fancy interior. i'd rather get the GTI.

Yeah ..........riiiight !

As far as it only having 200HP, a $500 chip would boost that to 252hp/303lb-ft.

Here we go again ....... and you could add one of those breather kits too for another 25% and whle you're at it, a fat exhaust tip...that should squeeze out another 10% ....

I wonder if you could sell that information to those maroons that work at the Audi Engineering Dept.

Well, the 4 door GTI *really is* the same as an A3 under the sheet metal. The A3 gets softer curves and a bit more sound deadening material along with some polished up parts. But you get about the same options and the exact same engine/transmission in the GTI as you do the A3 for about $5,000 less.

As for the chip, APR and Neuspeed have been tuning Audi 1.8T's and 2.0T ECU's for a good 10 years with very real and substansial gains.

It's not marketing hype, it's the beauty of a well designed and built turbo setup.

 

[raildogg]

Well, it is expensive. I would rather get the Mazdaspeed 3 though, but in real world, I would not due to the low gas mileage. I think this car approaches Acura TSX price range and to me, the TSX is amazing. But again, in reality I would rather, if I had the money, get a Civic or Prius for gas mileage lol.

 

[Suture]

Most Audi/VW dealerships don't even care about the chips. And most vendors allow you to come in, return it to stock so you can take it to the dealer with no mods, and then come back and have the car reflashed.

 

[ultravox]

As for the chip, APR and Neuspeed have been tuning Audi 1.8T's and 2.0T ECU's for a good 10 years with very real and substansial gains.

25% substantial ??

I know those companies and I don't think that they can crank up an engine just by changing the ECM ??
I have not one but 3 mechanical engineers in the family and we've had this discussion many times but let's leave them out of this.
Think for a minute just what an ECM does. Can it make the valves change size ? Can it raise the compression ratio ? Can it change the cam profile ?
All the ECM can do is play around with the timing of certain events taking place in the motor.
No matter how many graphs and pictures of guys in lab coats they show you it is physically impossible to squeeze 25% more HP from an engine without changing some componenets and 25% is a lofty target.

As for GTI and AUdi's being alike ....I've had both and believe me a Volkswagen is not an Audi no matter how many parts you see under the hood with 4 interlocked circles. Fit and finsh is just one difference.

 

[Kelvrick]

I love the car, but for the price... I just don't see myself buying one.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: ultravox

As for the chip, APR and Neuspeed have been tuning Audi 1.8T's and 2.0T ECU's for a good 10 years with very real and substansial gains.

25% substantial ??

I know those companies and I don't think that they can crank up an engine just by changing the ECM ??
I have not one but 3 mechanical engineers in the family and we've had this discussion many times but let's leave them out of this.
Think for a minute just what an ECM does. Can it make the valves change size ? Can it raise the compression ratio ? Can it change the cam profile ?
All the ECM can do is play around with the timing of certain events taking place in the motor.
No matter how many graphs and pictures of guys in lab coats they show you it is physically impossible to squeeze 25% more HP from an engine without changing some componenets and 25% is a lofty target.

As for GTI and AUdi's being alike ....I've had both and believe me a Volkswagen is not an Audi no matter how many parts you see under the hood with 4 interlocked circles. Fit and finsh is just one difference.

it's a turbo car, so the computer can just spin the turbo more, pressurize more air and pump more gas into it.


that being said, the A3 costs too much for a little, FWD car.

 

[eshtog]

Originally posted by: ultravox

As for the chip, APR and Neuspeed have been tuning Audi 1.8T's and 2.0T ECU's for a good 10 years with very real and substansial gains.

25% substantial ??

I know those companies and I don't think that they can crank up an engine just by changing the ECM ??
I have not one but 3 mechanical engineers in the family and we've had this discussion many times but let's leave them out of this.
Think for a minute just what an ECM does. Can it make the valves change size ? Can it raise the compression ratio ? Can it change the cam profile ?
All the ECM can do is play around with the timing of certain events taking place in the motor.
No matter how many graphs and pictures of guys in lab coats they show you it is physically impossible to squeeze 25% more HP from an engine without changing some componenets and 25% is a lofty target.

As for GTI and AUdi's being alike ....I've had both and believe me a Volkswagen is not an Audi no matter how many parts you see under the hood with 4 interlocked circles. Fit and finsh is just one difference.

Is it also impossible to squeeze out 400 Torque and 380 HP out of the BMW 335i. Is it also impossible to get 285hp/tq from a WRX with just a chip and exhaust?

You my friend need to go do some more research.

 

[CtK]

i think i would rather have the new Volvo C30

C30 vs A3