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Jumpem

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

FWD > RWD in Canada. Thank goodness for the Japanese and AWD cars, RWD doesn't agree with Montreal winters even with all the traction control technology they add. It's too bad because RWD cars are much more fun on dry pavement :(
 

boyRacer

Lifer
Oct 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

i dont think its being marketed for the people who do that. :p

EDIT: besides, don't tell me you actually encounter "understeer" and "oversteer" in your daily commute :confused:
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).
 

Jumpem

Lifer
Sep 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

i dont think its being marketed for the people who do that. :p

EDIT: besides, don't tell me you actually encounter "understeer" and "oversteer" in your daily commute :confused:


I'd get my old Dodge Spirit to understeer around corners or on on-ramps. The Miata is wonderful for manuevering quickly. Oversteer is great for quick u-turns or sharp corners. I drive hard. :)
 

Jumpem

Lifer
Sep 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

FWD > RWD in Canada. Thank goodness for the Japanese and AWD cars, RWD doesn't agree with Montreal winters even with all the traction control technology they add. It's too bad because RWD cars are much more fun on dry pavement :(

I live in upstate NY. You don't have to tell me about snow. We got almost 200" last winter. I am going to hide my Miata in the agarge and share my gf's car over the winter. That said, I have heard from several people that it's really not a bad car in the snow/ice with snow tires all around.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?

Don't forget everyone's favorite cop car - comparing it to the Accord, Camry, and Altima - the rear passenger space owns all of those 3, except for head room where it was within about an inch. I don't see how FWD pwns RWD in any setup for rear passenger space.
 

RiDE

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Jul 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?

:confused:

FWD = cheap

Here you go on your FWD bashing again.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: SWorks
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?

:confused:

FWD = cheap

Here you go on your FWD bashing again.

Do you not understand the concept of "context"?
 

RiDE

Platinum Member
Jul 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: SWorks
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?

:confused:

FWD = cheap

Here you go on your FWD bashing again.

Do you not understand the concept of "context"?

Tell me he's making a fair comparison. Besides, he's been bashing FWD on these boards as far as I can remember.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?

Don't forget everyone's favorite cop car - comparing it to the Accord, Camry, and Altima - the rear passenger space owns all of those 3, except for head room where it was within about an inch. I don't see how FWD pwns RWD in any setup for rear passenger space.


In a RWD car, you're going to have a large hump in the center of the rear floorboard for which all of the drivetrain components must pass through to get to the rear of the car, killing passenger space.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Still fwd. :(

wtf? were you expecting honda to make this rwd?


Not at all. I just won't even consider cars that aren't rwd. I'd love an SRT-4, but couldn't handle the overwhelming understeer and lack of throttle induced oversteer.

Who cares - Honda will sell cars whether they're FWD or not. The number of enthusiast who apppreciate RWD will ALWAYS be far outnumbered by those who value FWDs predictability, ease of use, space (FWD yields more rear passenger space than any RWD setup could ever hope to dream of), and value (FWD is cheaper to produce than RWD).

Limousines, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, 7-series are all rear wheel drive. The bigger front wheel drive car is...?


And the point of posting this list was?.......... Many of the latter cars you mentioned also come in the superior AWD form. In the price conscious market that Honda caters to, having a FWD platform is easier to produce at a cheaper priced than a RWD setup.

Say if you were to build a civic with everything identical cosmetically, sans that drive train. One is RWD while the other is FWD. The RWD one will cost more to produce, and passenger room will be compromised in the rear. Which platform do you think the vehicle will be produced on?
 

OS

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Why can't Honda just build a V6 Accord with a 5- or 6-speed manual???

ummm don't they have a V6 coupe with a 6 speed...?

Yes. Don't want a coupe.

The Accord with a stick isn't any more "fun" to drive than the auto version. Believe me. If you want sporty, go with the 6 or maybe the Altima, or if your wallet allows, the Legacy or the G35.

hey i don't know if you know, but the 6MT accord has quite a few upgrades over all the others. Bigger brakes/rotors, bigger/wider rim/rubber, revised intake/intake manifold and different exhaust.

I haven't actually driven the 6MT so I can't really say if it's "more fun", but it's a bit different of an animal.
 

peacemaker1ps

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Dec 29, 2002
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Impressive how they raised rev limiter from 02-03 models.
I wonder if they even got new valve springs and retiners.

I would love to see car in person before i make any judgement, but far as i can see, awesome.
 

MazerRackham

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Apr 4, 2002
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So I test drove the 2005 yesterday, and I think I'll be getting one in the near future... it looks MUCH better with the 17" wheels and lower profile tires.

The headlights are NOT HID projectors... they just look like they might be. Standard halogens unfortunately.
 

Taggart

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Apr 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
So I test drove the 2005 yesterday, and I think I'll be getting one in the near future... it looks MUCH better with the 17" wheels and lower profile tires.

The headlights are NOT HID projectors... they just look like they might be. Standard halogens unfortunately.

Why does Acura have the HID option for the rest of their fleet but not the RSX? The car is designed to be riced out...it's better to have HID standard and not have to put in a kit.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Does anyone know if the 2005 TSX is getting these updates as well?

I may cross-shop the TSX with the Legacy 2.5GT.
 

NutBucket

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Does anyone know if the 2005 TSX is getting these updates as well?

I may cross-shop the TSX with the Legacy 2.5GT.

Don't. I think you'll be disappointed. Not nearly enough power for 3300 lbs.