2003 Large Luxury SUV Comparison Test

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LAUST

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: NFS4

Or how about I just get a GX470 and be happy for $50,000?:D

or how bout i just get a 4runner and a new set of furniture and call it a day?

Or how bout I get an FX45 and smoke 'em all :D

well, when we go hunting we'll have to take the 4runner...

I don't hunt. I see no reason to shoot at harmless, defensless animals.
I never knew NFS was a vegan :eek:
 

LAUST

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
I can't believe Caddillac hasthe audacity to put this type of dash in a 60K+ plus luxury car

I think Caddy won cause it was $17k cheaper than the competitor (LX470). That is a pretty hefty price difference, and i know the upgrade to the Lexus interior isn't worth $17k to most buyers.

I'd take the GX470 over the LX470 and the LX470 over the Escalade. The Escalade just SCREAMS badge engineering.
Yeah but the badge is over the superior drivetrain.. 4.7 in the LX is a comedy hour, and I say that from experiance :p

These are soccermom-mobiles...not heavy-duty haulers like pickups. In this class, it's all about smooth, quiet operation and the 4.7 does it in spades :)
You don't even need to be hauling, just empty weight the 4.7 doesnt have a dime of power below 3000RPM

edit: and thats in a Tundra, how does it fair hauling around a fat azz SUV
 

Spac3d

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It seems that all of those SUV's are new/redesigned... just wait till the LX470 is redesigned (2004?):D The new one will be awesome
 

LAUST

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Don't know if I can call anything "Classy" that was made after 1969 myself ;)
 

rufruf44

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Give me a Land cruiser any day over all of those pretender, and I save a few grand from LX 470 price tag too :p
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: LAUST
Don't know if I can call anything "Classy" that was made after 1969 myself ;)

McLaren F1
360 Modena

Nuff said :D

360 Modena is ugly... looks like Daewoo styled it. But then again, Pininfarina designs almost always suck.
 

Shantanu

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Luxury vehicles are all about "gotta-have" factor. The Lexus LX470 has absolutely none of that. Vehicles like the Cadillac Escalade and Hummer H2 sell ridiculously well because people are willing to pay top dollar for them, and will overlook small things like hard interior plastics. No amount of wood trim can compensate for the Lexus's utter blandness.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: Shantanu
Luxury vehicles are all about "gotta-have" factor. The Lexus LX470 has absolutely none of that. Vehicles like the Cadillac Escalade and Hummer H2 sell ridiculously well because people are willing to pay top dollar for them, and will overlook small things like hard interior plastics. No amount of wood trim can compensate for the Lexus's utter blandness.

OMG he's back! I thought he disappeared!

 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: NFS4

Or how about I just get a GX470 and be happy for $50,000?:D

or how bout i just get a 4runner and a new set of furniture and call it a day?

Or how bout I get an FX45 and smoke 'em all :D

well, when we go hunting we'll have to take the 4runner...

I don't hunt. I see no reason to shoot at harmless, defensless animals. So you can take your 4-Runner:p

my gun is an SLR with a 200mm lens :p
 

aphex

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Will a Touareg be considered Large Luxury?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Shantanu
Luxury vehicles are all about "gotta-have" factor. The Lexus LX470 has absolutely none of that. Vehicles like the Cadillac Escalade and Hummer H2 sell ridiculously well because people are willing to pay top dollar for them, and will overlook small things like hard interior plastics. No amount of wood trim can compensate for the Lexus's utter blandness.

OMG he's back! I thought he disappeared!

People will pay top dollar for sh!t just too be seen...you're right. If you read the article, you'll see that the H2 is basically unpractical CRAP and the Escalade has an interior befitting of a pickup.

I for one aren't going to put up with GM crap. When I pay that much money, it better be damned near perfect.

H2
The cargo space issue is obvious. When a vehicle weighs 6,400 pounds and meets the heavy-duty vehicle classification (and therefore isn't subject to pesky EPA gas mileage estimates), you'd expect it to double as a moving van when needed. However, the H2's cargo bay is occupied by the aforementioned spare tire and third-row seat, and even on large grocery trips, one of these has to come out to get everything in. On the plus side, the 60/40 second-row seats fold easily to create a flat load floor.

Inside, editors noted GM's attempt to give the H2 a bold, masculine ensemble but wrote that the final product seemed like a rush job with various elements thrown in at the last minute. Low-quality materials certainly didn't help ? there was hard plastic in abundance, along with weak leather and vinyl trim and unconvincing faux metal where there should have been real stainless steel. "Nothing seemed worthy of such an expensive vehicle," one editor wrote in his evaluation. Build quality wasn't perfect, either; panel fits weren't all that tight and the shifter, one of the few stylish holdovers from the H2 concept truck's sharp interior, wiggled in its gate.


Escalade
Inside, Cadillac asks you to make do with design elements little evolved from a basic Chevrolet Tahoe ? the worst offender is the rectangular dash that looks like it belongs in a 10-year-old pickup rather than a 2003 Cadillac. Zebrano wood inlays help warm up the ensemble a bit, though we didn't find them as convincing as the maple accents in the LX 470. The Escalade was equipped with a new steering wheel and instrument panel for 2003. There's no question that the new wheel is more ergonomically sound than its funky predecessor, but the gauges, while still attractive, are not as sporty as the original set.

Interior materials were a mixed bag. Editors found the leather upholstery suitably supple but weren't enamored with the brittle plastics scattered about the rest of the cabin. The climate and audio controls looked and felt generic, but were easy to use. On the whole, build quality seemed to have improved since our full test of a 2002 Escalade, though gap tolerances and panel fits didn't match the LX 470's level of precision.
 

Spoooon

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Originally posted by: toant103
my friend want the Escalade, but he said he won't look right in it because he's white.

He's wrong. I see a bunch of old, white people driving their Escalades and CTSs around. Younger people seem to go for that Avalanche Escalade, whatever it's called.