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2003 BMW 760Li: Twelve cylinders, 438 horsepower ? and two iDrives

I read a few reviews on that 760iL. It is apparently the smoothest V12 ever made. Sweet mother of pearl, I have to drive a V12 one day. Personally, I think the car has a nice look in black. Very menacing.
 
There?s no question that the 760 sets a new standard in electronic features, adding some and adopting others, such as its radar-guided cruise control. One of the few available options, the system will vary your speed, even apply the brakes, to maintain a safe distance from the car ahead, sounding a gentle chime if it needs driver intervention.
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and if you guys are talking about money, i'd rather have a 911 turbo or an e55 AMGw/30k in the bank
 
Originally posted by: Howard
It needs active air suspension.

madd, I think the RENESIS is supposed to be very smooth also.
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RENESIS is a rotary engine, I was talking about V12s.

And yea I figure the Renesis should be smooth since it just spins around an axis 😛
 
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
There?s no question that the 760 sets a new standard in electronic features, adding some and adopting others, such as its radar-guided cruise control. One of the few available options, the system will vary your speed, even apply the brakes, to maintain a safe distance from the car ahead, sounding a gentle chime if it needs driver intervention.
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You can get that on a $60,000 Lexus LS430
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
There?s no question that the 760 sets a new standard in electronic features, adding some and adopting others, such as its radar-guided cruise control. One of the few available options, the system will vary your speed, even apply the brakes, to maintain a safe distance from the car ahead, sounding a gentle chime if it needs driver intervention.
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You can get that on a $60,000 Lexus LS430
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And on a $50k Infiniti Q45 and $40k Infinti M45 and FX35/45 😛 😛

 
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: Howard
It needs active air suspension.

madd, I think the RENESIS is supposed to be very smooth also.
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RENESIS is a rotary engine, I was talking about V12s.

And yea I figure the Renesis should be smooth since it just spins around an axis 😛
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The rotary doesn't really spin evenly around a circular axis the way you think it would, it actually wobbles in an oval.

But you can add counterweights to remove the vibration from a wobble, while you can't add counterweights to remove the vibration from reciprocation as in a piston engine. In a piston engine, half of the rod and the whole piston is not counterbalanced.

 
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
I read a few reviews on that 760iL. It is apparently the smoothest V12 ever made. Sweet mother of pearl, I have to drive a V12 one day. Personally, I think the car has a nice look in black.
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There's a black one at my local dealer, fully loaded with a $20,000 markup!!!
 
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: Howard
It needs active air suspension.

madd, I think the RENESIS is supposed to be very smooth also.
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RENESIS is a rotary engine, I was talking about V12s.

And yea I figure the Renesis should be smooth since it just spins around an axis 😛
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The rotary doesn't really spin evenly around a circular axis the way you think it would, it actually wobbles in an oval.

But you can add counterweights to remove the vibration from a wobble, while you can't add counterweights to remove the vibration from reciprocation as in a piston engine. In a piston engine, half of the rod and the whole piston is not counterbalanced.
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True but a V12 and Straight-6 engines are naturally harmonically balanced so there really isn't any need for counter-shafts or anything like that. Smoothness is inherent in their design.
 
Wow...a nice display of fine German engineering, although I too would take a nicely done Audi...and I want a picture of the TWO iDrives, but isn't that a bit much? Or is there so much room inside the boat that you need dual display. 😉
 
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
True but a V12 and Straight-6 engines are naturally harmonically balanced so there really isn't any need for counter-shafts or anything like that. Smoothness is inherent in their design.
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They still need to be counterbalanced. If you look at their cranks, they still have counterweights. But since the vibrations that remain after the counterweights cancel each other out, they do seem pretty smooth.

I've driven straight 6's before and V6's, and some engines are smoother than others regardless of the design. For instance, my Z's engine still feels smoother than my friend's BMW did.
 
Originally posted by: KingNothing
The system will now apply brakes automatically to prevent the car from creeping forward when you?re stopped.
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And the main benefit of automatics goes out the door...
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Yah, really. This is one of the main things I like about automatics. Particularly in bad traffic with a lot of stop/go for short distances.
 
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: KingNothing
The system will now apply brakes automatically to prevent the car from creeping forward when you?re stopped.
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And the main benefit of automatics goes out the door...
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Yah, really. This is one of the main things I like about automatics. Particularly in bad traffic with a lot of stop/go for short distances.
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WTF? How does this remove the main benefit of an automatic? From what I read, you can stop, take your foot off the brake and the car won't move. Put your foot on the accelerator and off you go. Sounds even better to me...😕
 
i saw the A8/S8 and that thing looks sweet as heck.

I would take that... the depreciation on it is horrible tho.

So only get it if you plan to keep it.
 
Originally posted by: Mani
Man it'd be a damn hard decision between this, the S8, and the S600.
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Luckily for most of us, we don't have the money to make such decisions, so we are better off!! 😛

And mashallj: I was under the impresssion that Straigh-6 and V12s did not use any counter-weights.
 
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