While looking for entry level jobs now, it seems most openings are for the senior level professionals.
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Yep. Even though the market is picking up, there are still a lot of unemployed tech workers with lots of experience. So companies can afford to be very selective and take those with experience first. Hopefully, as more and more of these senior level people get hired, the market will open up more to those with less experience.
Originally posted by: Shanti
bump for the "real" programmers.
I'd be interested if I had more C++ exp.
I'm sure Ameesh is much nicer in person.:beer:
By the way, if you have any certs, DO NOT include them on your resume.
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Was that last part about not including certs a joke? I know for certain that most companies look for certs, my mom was moving jobs as the company she was working for probably only had enough cash to pay her for 6 more months before going broke, and even though she has 15 years project management experience places would not hire her unless she got her project management certification, I mean it wasn't a problem to get it but still she HAD to have it, and I don't think certifications are inferred...
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Shanti
bump for the "real" programmers.
I'd be interested if I had more C++ exp.
I'm sure Ameesh is much nicer in person.
By the way, if you have any certs, DO NOT include them on your resume.
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Was that last part about not including certs a joke? I know for certain that most companies look for certs, my mom was moving jobs as the company she was working for probably only had enough cash to pay her for 6 more months before going broke, and even though she has 15 years project management experience places would not hire her unless she got her project management certification, I mean it wasn't a problem to get it but still she HAD to have it, and I don't think certifications are inferred...
Developers who have a CS degree should not include certs on their resume, it makes you look bad in my opinion.
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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Shanti
bump for the "real" programmers.
I'd be interested if I had more C++ exp.
I'm sure Ameesh is much nicer in person.
By the way, if you have any certs, DO NOT include them on your resume.
Text
Was that last part about not including certs a joke? I know for certain that most companies look for certs, my mom was moving jobs as the company she was working for probably only had enough cash to pay her for 6 more months before going broke, and even though she has 15 years project management experience places would not hire her unless she got her project management certification, I mean it wasn't a problem to get it but still she HAD to have it, and I don't think certifications are inferred...
No I wasn't joking. There are plenty of differing opinions on certs. But the only opinion that counts in this case is Ameesh's since he is the one receiving the resumes. I knew knew his opinion on certs from the discussion in this thread
Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Shanti
bump for the "real" programmers.
I'd be interested if I had more C++ exp.
I'm sure Ameesh is much nicer in person.
By the way, if you have any certs, DO NOT include them on your resume.
Text
Was that last part about not including certs a joke? I know for certain that most companies look for certs, my mom was moving jobs as the company she was working for probably only had enough cash to pay her for 6 more months before going broke, and even though she has 15 years project management experience places would not hire her unless she got her project management certification, I mean it wasn't a problem to get it but still she HAD to have it, and I don't think certifications are inferred...
No I wasn't joking. There are plenty of differing opinions on certs. But the only opinion that counts in this case is Ameesh's since he is the one receiving the resumes. I knew knew his opinion on certs from the discussion in this thread
well its defintely not just my opinion, a lot of my collegues share this opinion as well.
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I know. I didn't mean it like that. With your background, you obviously know what you are talking about.Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Shanti
bump for the "real" programmers.
I'd be interested if I had more C++ exp.
I'm sure Ameesh is much nicer in person.
By the way, if you have any certs, DO NOT include them on your resume.
Text
Was that last part about not including certs a joke? I know for certain that most companies look for certs, my mom was moving jobs as the company she was working for probably only had enough cash to pay her for 6 more months before going broke, and even though she has 15 years project management experience places would not hire her unless she got her project management certification, I mean it wasn't a problem to get it but still she HAD to have it, and I don't think certifications are inferred...
No I wasn't joking. There are plenty of differing opinions on certs. But the only opinion that counts in this case is Ameesh's since he is the one receiving the resumes. I knew knew his opinion on certs from the discussion in this thread
well its defintely not just my opinion, a lot of my collegues share this opinion as well.
I just meant that there are others who disagree.
I'm sure it depends a lot on where you are applying.
If you apply for a development position at Amazon, MS, Oracle, Sun, etc., you are likely to be interviewed and have your resume screened by developers.
If you are applying at a non-tech job, you may have a non-technical manager reviewing your resume and doing the interviews, and they are the one's who are more likely to be impressed by certs.
Originally posted by: Shanti
I know. I didn't mean it like that. With your background, you obviously know what you are talking about.Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Shanti
bump for the "real" programmers.
I'd be interested if I had more C++ exp.
I'm sure Ameesh is much nicer in person.
By the way, if you have any certs, DO NOT include them on your resume.
Text
Was that last part about not including certs a joke? I know for certain that most companies look for certs, my mom was moving jobs as the company she was working for probably only had enough cash to pay her for 6 more months before going broke, and even though she has 15 years project management experience places would not hire her unless she got her project management certification, I mean it wasn't a problem to get it but still she HAD to have it, and I don't think certifications are inferred...
No I wasn't joking. There are plenty of differing opinions on certs. But the only opinion that counts in this case is Ameesh's since he is the one receiving the resumes. I knew knew his opinion on certs from the discussion in this thread
well its defintely not just my opinion, a lot of my collegues share this opinion as well.
I just meant that there are others who disagree.
I'm sure it depends a lot on where you are applying.
If you apply for a development position at Amazon, MS, Oracle, Sun, etc., you are likely to be interviewed and have your resume screened by developers.
If you are applying at a non-tech job, you may have a non-technical manager reviewing your resume and doing the interviews, and they are the one's who are more likely to be impressed by certs.
I would say thats probably a pretty accurate statement. most developers would probably want to fish out your techincal prowess via some techincal interview rather then getting some paper that says you know some paticular subject very well.
its different, somethings i like more and some things i like less, but all in all i think i made a good decision moving to the other side of the lake.
Wish i had a bit more professional experience. Unemployed and missing Seattle. Graduating at the end of the dot-bomb sure hasnt helped.
Mind if we pass our resumes along in case something else comes up?
Thanks for keeping us all in mind Ameesh!
Bump!
Mind if we pass our resumes along in case something else comes up?
Thanks for keeping us all in mind Ameesh!
Bump!
hey ameesh, how important is putting your gpa on your resume? and if my major gpa is higher than my overall, should i just put my major gpa? my overall is 3.2 and major 3.4 btw. i put it on my resume anyway, but some say it hurts me since it's kinda low. but on the other hand, others say it would show that I'm trying to hide something bad.
Why would you put your GPA on your resume if you already have at least 3 years of job experience?
Originally posted by: OulOat
Why would you put your GPA on your resume if you already have at least 3 years of job experience?
i didn't say i have 3 years of job exp. i'm just a newly grad asking for advice. if that's OK.
Originally posted by: jinduy
Originally posted by: OulOat
Why would you put your GPA on your resume if you already have at least 3 years of job experience?
i didn't say i have 3 years of job exp. i'm just a newly grad asking for advice. if that's OK.
I would just take it off and if some one asks just tell them. its not such a big deal to have it on there.
what kind of work is this?
is this algorithms related or UA/front end
I have been mostly working in protocol stacks (all in C/c++ on solaris/pSoS (real time Operating system) ), not sure if my skills/exp match these openings
is this algorithms related or UA/front end
I have been mostly working in protocol stacks (all in C/c++ on solaris/pSoS (real time Operating system) ), not sure if my skills/exp match these openings
this is all backend c++ stuff, hardly any gui will need to be written by you, thats what the web devs are for.
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