2 Friends of Mine Made The News...JFK Racially Profiling??

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What do you guys feel about this...I didn't know what to say to her when she told me. It's been on the news tons of times as well. She & her sister are considering legal action..
 

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
What do I feel? About damn time. Sorry.

Yeah, racial profiling will prevent terrorist attacks - because it's not like the terrorists realize we're looking for arabs. Have you not noticed that there have been several foiled terrorism attempts by non-Arabs since 9/11?
 

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Well I hope they win their lawsuit.
 

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
What do I feel? About damn time. Sorry.

I'd have to agree.

El Al (The Airline) does this...they have a scale for security threats. Israelis and Jews are usually classified as the lowest threat, Westerners are usually classified as medium level threats, and Arabs (particularly males) are usually classified as high threat.

El Al happens to be the safest airline in the world....Of course there are other factors that contribute to this, but they must be doing something right.
 

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I'd be pissed off, but I wouldn't sue.

This will all pass eventually and something new will become our problem. Very mild version of putting Japanese in camps during WW2.
 

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According to the article were born in Iraq and returning from a vacation to the middle east. If that is not a red flag then don't know what else might be. Iraq is our enemy, and the government suspected that these people were possibly a security risk.

If they don't like the way they have been treated then they can return to Iraq. People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.
 

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racial classifications are automatically suspect, but if they pass strict scrutiny (like michigan law school's entrance policy, though how it differed from michigan's undergraduate policy beats me), then the government can still do them. while it might not pass strict scrutiny, it'd probably be pretty damn close.
"Why is Congressman King calling for a policy which has been tried and proven not to work and which has been disavowed by security experts?" she said.
what policy is that?
 

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Originally posted by: doze
According to the article were born in Iraq and returning from a vacation to the middle east. If that is not a red flag then don't know what else might be. Iraq is our enemy, and the government suspected that these people were possibly a security risk.

If they don't like the way they have been treated then they can return to Iraq. People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.

Iraq never attacked the U.S , nor have Iraqis hated the U.S until we invaded their country.

You display your Bush bumper sticker proudly dont u

Iraq is the enemy of the U.S? ROFL
 

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Originally posted by: doze
According to the article were born in Iraq and returning from a vacation to the middle east. If that is not a red flag then don't know what else might be. Iraq is our enemy, and the government suspected that these people were possibly a security risk.

If they don't like the way they have been treated then they can return to Iraq. People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.

Iraq is not our enemy. We are fighting a war in Iraq (ostensibly) to free the Iraqi people from Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein was our enemy. Some Iraqis are our enemies. Iraq is not our enemy.
 

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: doze
According to the article were born in Iraq and returning from a vacation to the middle east. If that is not a red flag then don't know what else might be. Iraq is our enemy, and the government suspected that these people were possibly a security risk.

If they don't like the way they have been treated then they can return to Iraq. People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.

Iraq is not our enemy. We are fighting a war in Iraq (ostensibly) to free the Iraqi people from Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein was our enemy. Some Iraqis are our enemies. Iraq is not our enemy.

Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: doze
According to the article were born in Iraq and returning from a vacation to the middle east. If that is not a red flag then don't know what else might be. Iraq is our enemy, and the government suspected that these people were possibly a security risk.

If they don't like the way they have been treated then they can return to Iraq. People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.

Iraq never attacked the U.S , nor have Iraqis hated the U.S until we invaded their country.

You display your Bush bumper sticker proudly dont u

Iraq is the enemy of the U.S? ROFL
first, they were coming from jordan. second, i'm pretty damn sure that, even if iraq isn't our enemy, there are plenty of people over there that wouldn't mind seeing the US taken down a notch or 3. saddamnistas, followers of zarqawi (who was jordanian and was training in iraq prior to the invasion), maybe followers of sadr, etc. it's a high risk area of the world regardless of your personal views on the war in iraq.
 

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sorry, but stereotypes exist for a reason.

if you dont like them, then stfu, black women are loud, this is true.

more middle easterners blow up planes than white/black ppl... this is true.

white people typically go on murder sprees, this is true.

black ppl typically cant swim, deal drugs, and generally dont make as much money as whites, this is true.

 

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
sorry, but stereotypes exist for a reason.

if you dont like them, then stfu, black women are loud, this is true.

more middle easterners blow up planes than white/black ppl... this is true.

white people typically go on murder sprees, this is true.

black ppl typically cant swim, deal drugs, and generally dont make as much money as whites, this is true.

you forgot that indians and jews are both cheap.


apparently an indian friend of mine (who is cheap and gives people honorary brown-man status when they've been cheap) knows an indian guy married to a jewish girl. that will be the cheapest kid ever.
 

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If Iraq isn't our enemy then what are they ... our friend? If they were not our enemy then the military would not be required there now. I'm not saying that all Iraqi people or people of middle Eastern descent are our enemy, but some are. I have no problem with the government detaining people for a few hours to make sure they are not. If there was currently a threat from African terrorists or Asian terrorists instead of middle eastern then it would be black or asian peopl ebeing detained at the airport.

And yes I support Bush because he is the President, but I don't think he made all the right choices.
 

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Some of the posts are so asanine and retarded, I don't know whether to LOL or be sad.

The articles outlines two problems: racial profiling and inhumane treatment. Now, I think Ibrahim family would have been more understanding if the custom agents treated them with more respect, rather than treating them like criminals. In other words, if the government is going to do this, at least do it with some decency.
 

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Some of the posts are so asanine and retarded, I don't know whether to LOL or be sad.

The articles outlines two problems: racial profiling and inhumane treatment. Now, I think Ibrahim family would have been more understanding if the custom agents treated them with more respect, rather than treating them like criminals. In other words, if the government is going to do this, at least do it with some decency.

6 hours dude...

i can go 8 without water/food/bathroom...

6 hours... is like waiting from breakfast to dinner to eat... you know how many ppl fvcking do that?

 

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Some of the posts are so asanine and retarded, I don't know whether to LOL or be sad.

The articles outlines two problems: racial profiling and inhumane treatment. Now, I think Ibrahim family would have been more understanding if the custom agents treated them with more respect, rather than treating them like criminals. In other words, if the government is going to do this, at least do it with some decency.

I don't think we should have to be nice to people we believe may be a threat to our national security. It's not like they were handcuffed, blindfolded and loaded onto a bus to be locked up and interrogated. They were detained and questioned at the airport for a few hours.

How do you think the authorities in Jordan (or any other country) would react to you if they thought you were a threat to their national security?
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: doze
People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on these forums. Actually, moron, its pretty difficult to lose your citizenship after you're naturalized. Even an act of treason wouldn't strip you of citizenship.

I'd like to remind you that your education isn't a privilege, but a right and required for those under 18.

 

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Some of the posts are so asanine and retarded, I don't know whether to LOL or be sad.

The articles outlines two problems: racial profiling and inhumane treatment. Now, I think Ibrahim family would have been more understanding if the custom agents treated them with more respect, rather than treating them like criminals. In other words, if the government is going to do this, at least do it with some decency.

6 hours dude...

i can go 8 without water/food/bathroom...

6 hours... is like waiting from breakfast to dinner to eat... you know how many ppl fvcking do that?

Actually, it's more like from lunch to dinner.
 

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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Originally posted by: doze
People not born in the USA need to remember that citizenship is a privilege not a right.
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on these forums. Actually, moron, its pretty difficult to lose your citizenship after you're naturalized. Even an act of treason wouldn't strip you of citizenship.

I'd like to remind you that your education isn't a privilege, but a right and required for those under 18.

Not everyone who wants to can become a US citizen, explain to me how this not a privelege? I never said anything about losing citizenship.

edit : forgot that this is ATOT so I must also insult you ... jackass
 

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Tell you what...

When 6' tall white guys start flying planes into buildings, I'll allow them to racially profile me if all of the middle easterners tshirts on allow the police to racially profile them now.

I'll even let them profile me when I buy a Ryder truck and 1,000 pounds of fertilizer. No charge.
 

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It's one thing to target them and check them out to see if they are a threat.

It's a whole different story when they are held against their will for 6+ hours without food, water or leisure.

I'd sue to send a message. Make the checks quicker, especially if you've been searched previously.
 
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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Some of the posts are so asanine and retarded, I don't know whether to LOL or be sad.

The articles outlines two problems: racial profiling and inhumane treatment. Now, I think Ibrahim family would have been more understanding if the custom agents treated them with more respect, rather than treating them like criminals. In other words, if the government is going to do this, at least do it with some decency.

6 hours dude...

i can go 8 without water/food/bathroom...

6 hours... is like waiting from breakfast to dinner to eat... you know how many ppl fvcking do that?

Thats becuase your fat ass just ate a big mac gordo sized meal. They were going on at least 8 hours, closer to 10 or 12 though.