2 Abrams tanks vs. 10,000 Chinese cavalrymen: Who would win?

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
after the tank runs out of fuel/ammo even rudimentary gunpowder/burning will destroy a tank. hell just pile logs around the tank and burn them out.

Read the op to see where you went wrong.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
cavalry. Eventually, they surround the tanks and kill the guys inside. aren't abrams tanks' rounds anti tank piercing rounds as opposed to explosive?

How do you propose they open the tank even if they got close?

Things I learned as a child

guaranteed bugs bunny could open a tank with that...

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
IDDQD.

IDISPISPOPD

damn you beat me to it.

//you have an extra 'I'

"Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Piles of Putrid Debris"

I had no idea that actually stood for something!

 

[alkemyst]

I thought it was geek-speak for 'I am going to die a virgin'

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

I love this thread. I remember when it first started. 2 M1A2 tanks will take out 10k guys on horses easily if they have infinite fuel/ammo, btw. Even if the cavalry are closing in from all around, the tanks can put their backs to one another (protecting the weakest part) and cover the entire 360 degrees, each taking 180. This is made absurdly easy by the top-mounted machine gun, as long as the gunner can stay alive.

 

[imported_Imp]

Can't the cavalrymen just ride up to it when the guns pointed forward, and jam their swords into the engine grills? Some tube has to be cuttable. Even if the two tanks get scratching one anothers backs, one guy has to get lucky and cut something important.

I'm sure one of the cavalrymen has a drinking habit; molotov the engine.

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: Imp
Can't the cavalrymen just ride up to it when the guns pointed forward, and jam their swords into the engine grills? Some tube has to be cuttable. Even if the two tanks get scratching one anothers backs, one guy has to get lucky and cut something important.

I'm sure one of the cavalrymen has a drinking habit; molotov the engine.

These tanks can reach 50 mph.

A cavalryman will not even get close.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: Imp
Can't the cavalrymen just ride up to it when the guns pointed forward, and jam their swords into the engine grills? Some tube has to be cuttable. Even if the two tanks get scratching one anothers backs, one guy has to get lucky and cut something important.

I'm sure one of the cavalrymen has a drinking habit; molotov the engine.

These tanks can reach 50 mph.

A cavalryman will not even get close.

The thousands of dead horses have to bog it down sooner or later.

 

[videogames101]

Tanks will not be opened without serious application of force, and infantry can't apply that much force, without explosives, or a huge lever.

Hence, tanks win.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Give each Chinese Cavalrymen a Craftsman toolkit. They'll strip the tanks then make cheap knockoffs turning their horses into Abrams!

Ahahaa. I give you a virtual :beer: for that one.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: nweaver

Originally posted by: sourceninja
The soldiers win easy. The tank is just a metal machine. The original question did not specify it had drivers.

good point.

What if the cavalrymen were blind. and 90 years old. and had false appendages?

 

[thescreensavers]

Tanks would get over heated because of the unlimited ammo usage and stop working.

 

[Ackmed]

Obviously some people havent seen a 50 cal/mk-19 in action in real life. Unlimited ammo? Tanks easily. Especially if there is a semi-large distance between the two.

 

[ScottFern]

Well, in C&C having a large unit of Chinese infantry gave them a power bonus so probably the infantry.

 

[thecrecarc]

Given the OP only stated unlimited Ammo, the tank would run out of gas. Also, the crew of the tank would starve or die of thirst way before the cavalrymen would. Finally, bowel movements and basic needs will force the crew outside the tank. The 10,000 cavalry men would win easily.

 

[foghorn67]

Going by the OP's challenging question, the Chinese cavalry would easily crap their pants at that site. I know there are some truly fearless warriors out there like woads, beserkers, Persian immortals, and the Chinese cavalry could have that rep too. But after a few salvos from the 120, and the .50 ripping horses and men too pieces, they would have to cower.
i don't care, but everyone breaks at some point. All it takes is a few to run/gallop the other way, and the rest would follow.
And like Ackmed has said...even SPR showing the German MG's ripping people to shreds is nothing close to real life accounts of MG's turning people into soup.
It's disgusting.
Plus, chinese cavalry wouldn't have ever seen friggin tanks. That psychological effect would be more terrifying than giant, flying, alien blue whales shooting laser beams to us.

 

[Exterous]

In open ground I have to give it to the tanks as I don't see how the cavalry will out maneuver them. If we give the cavalry some digging equipment then it gets interesting

I'm surprised no one has made a flash game out of this yet

 

[krylon]

wait. WAT

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Given the OP only stated unlimited Ammo, the tank would run out of gas. Also, the crew of the tank would starve or die of thirst way before the cavalrymen would. Finally, bowel movements and basic needs will force the crew outside the tank. The 10,000 cavalry men would win easily.

You can take a piss outside pretty easily if nobody wants to get within 1/3 of a mile since you'd obviously have an unlimited supply of the M1028 rounds. Not to mention they have a range of 240 miles, they could always sprint away to buy time.

 

[SSSnail]

I guess the "Plane won't take off" crowd is now on the side of the cavalries, you're bat shit insane if you're thinking flesh is going to hold back a modern day battle tank. And somehow, you think they can get close enough to the tank with unlimited ammo and supplies to "rope it". Yeah right...

If you want examples, look no further than machine gun nests versus charging infantries of the WWI trench warfare. Now, imagine this machine gun nest is in an INDESTRUCTIBLE moving fortress, that neither your horses or weaponry can harm it, with a BIGGER GUN, and a better machine gun, with unlimited bullets. Shit, I wouldn't even use the main or machine guns, I'd just run over the horses for fun.

Ask the Iraqis how well their hordes of T-54s hold up against the M1 Abram, and we're talking about tanks vs. tanks. Fucking horses... get fuck outta here.

Edit: LK, your argument is flawed, the tank doesn't have a 240 miles range, it's unlimited

Edit2: How many dead bodies do you think can be covered in a 1 mile square radius? Including horses. How long do you think it'd take the tanks to move one mile over, assuming they're not already moving in the first place.

Edit3: Although, I did see 1 Chinese man held back a column of tanks...

 

[Woosta]

Cavalrymen obviously, because of the numbers. You're all forgetting that there's ten *thousand* - not three hundred, ten THOUSAND.

If we take a look at an image of a tank:

http://images.google.com/url?s...KJM0zuHbPVr_pCBDDsmzqA

YES, there's going to be TONS of dead cavalrymen but JUST look at the picture of the tank. I'm confident that even if 100 cavalry men were shot in front of the tank, the pile of corpses would prevent it from going forward. Now that's just 50, provided it's covered on *all* sides and starts killing that's a ton of corpses, so much that I doubt it would be possibl for the tank to actually go anywhere. If we stick enough bones, human and horse body parts to the open areas around the wheels, it's BOUND TO GET STUCK.

There's just way too friggin many cavalrymen, we're only dealing with *two* Abrams tanks. If it was 10-20 - 10000 wouldn't be able to contain that definitely but 2..

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Woosta
Cavalrymen obviously, because of the numbers. You're all forgetting that there's ten *thousand* - not three hundred, ten THOUSAND.

If we take a look at an image of a tank:

http://images.google.com/url?s...KJM0zuHbPVr_pCBDDsmzqA

YES, there's going to be TONS of dead cavalrymen but JUST look at the picture of the tank. I'm confident that even if 100 cavalry men were shot in front of the tank, the pile of corpses would prevent it from going forward. Now that's just 50, provided it's covered on *all* sides and starts killing that's a ton of corpses, so much that I doubt it would be possibl for the tank to actually go anywhere. If we stick enough bones, human and horse body parts to the open areas around the wheels, it's BOUND TO GET STUCK.

There's just way too friggin many cavalrymen, we're only dealing with *two* Abrams tanks. If it was 10-20 - 10000 wouldn't be able to contain that definitely but 2..

How exactly do the cavalrymen kill the people in the tank though. :roll:

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Woosta
Cavalrymen obviously, because of the numbers. You're all forgetting that there's ten *thousand* - not three hundred, ten THOUSAND.

If we take a look at an image of a tank:

http://images.google.com/url?s...KJM0zuHbPVr_pCBDDsmzqA

YES, there's going to be TONS of dead cavalrymen but JUST look at the picture of the tank. I'm confident that even if 100 cavalry men were shot in front of the tank, the pile of corpses would prevent it from going forward. Now that's just 50, provided it's covered on *all* sides and starts killing that's a ton of corpses, so much that I doubt it would be possibl for the tank to actually go anywhere. If we stick enough bones, human and horse body parts to the open areas around the wheels, it's BOUND TO GET STUCK.

There's just way too friggin many cavalrymen, we're only dealing with *two* Abrams tanks. If it was 10-20 - 10000 wouldn't be able to contain that definitely but 2..

How exactly do the cavalrymen kill the people in the tank though. :roll:

Nevermind getting at the people in the tank, this 5 yrs old (based on his logical reasoning) doesn't comprehend the power of the main battle tank gun, or its armor, or power, or what it can plow through. He thinks that this is like a video game where you can "zerg" a tank with 10,000 horsemen and overwhelm it. Rubbish!

 

[Woosta]

Stuff friggin weapons down the gun hole, body parts, horse body parts, smoke bombs, grenades, try to find some sort of weak point, focus on one part, charge all 10,000 at one tank and turn the shit over ( yes, its 65 tons but this is 10,000 horses + humans which I *think* would be more than enough ).. retreat and play mind games by randomly attacking over a prolonged amount of time, wait and spy on the soldiers in the tank if they have no more food and they're forced to get out, whether its a month, months, years, we're talking about friggin 10000 humans. There *is* a way.

 

[KeypoX]

I think the tanks would win, given that they have unlimited ammo and time. Which i think we are assuming on both sides.

Also the battle grounds is a huge wide open area giveng the tanks plenty of room to maneuver. It would only be a matter of time before all the cavalrymen fell.

Now if we are gonna add in assumptions about the tanks malfunctioning or the operators being incapacitated then we have a different story.