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1st karate class today

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Originally posted by: lyssword
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: lyssword
What you will do: practice karate form, punching air. Do not expect any real contact with anything. Basically a dance class. Enjoy.

sure maybe the white belts.

but anything higher should be sparing and encouraged to compete in tournaments.

Dude, don't tell me you seriously think that they would let noobies with 1 week training to enter tournaments. I can't even begin to think how many lawsuits they would get.

if they are out of white belts in a week it sure is not a school to be in.
 
Originally posted by: everman
Does a black belt even mean anything today when an 8yr old can get one after a couple years class?

thats the kind of school you should be worried about. those are bleck belt schools. In 2 years of payments you too can get a black belt!

I took hapkido for years. we did have a 12 yr old in class that was a black belt and earned it. the kid was amazing (though his dad taught he class LOL)
 
Beware of BullSht teachers who say they're great and the best. Beware of teachers who say they are 15 degree black belts and blah blah blah. Chances are they paid another teacher just to get the rank. Many teachers will give belt degrees for x amount of money for

1) getting rid of that type of person
2) getting easy money

Make sure you don't go into the art with the goal of getting a black belt. Have your goals aim to improve your own skills, well being, and life.
 
If they rent out uniforms, I'd assume that they wouldn't charge you for the belt - I mean, maybe they ask you to get your own after a little bit?

Anyhow, after taking classes for a little bit, if you're serious about it, I'm thining you'd probably want to invest in a uniform of your own;

Here's a few good places (Hot Deals ! 😛):
http://www.combatsports.com/detail.aspx?ID=22183 - you can't beat this clearance price - one thing is, they go by their own(?) sizes - I'm 5'11" 180 lbs and a waist size 31, and I wear a size 4 1/2~5 - it's more or less a generic size, so I have a lot of waist room

http://www.goldentiger.com/sho...=001001002&listg=gosub
not in clearance, but great deal for a heavyweight uniform nontheless. I've had both that uniform and their in-house brand Juso Gi, and they're both top notch!

Of course, if you want to go quality, the sky's the limit 😉

Edit: regardless of what anyone (including myself) else on ATOT or otherwise says, keep on going if you're having fun/enjoying class - who gives a damn if you're having fun, right? 😉
 
Bah. I had to pay $$$ for my son to take one of these "Karate Classes."

It was taught by some white guy (I'm white) who was whiter than I am and made all the little kids call him "Sensei."

They bowed a lot. Punched air. Shouted "HI-YAH!!!" and jumped up and down.

And it cost me $$$.

I say give all the kids baseball bats. Last man standing gets the Black Belt Trophy. FTW.
 
Originally posted by: lyssword
What you will do: practice karate form, punching air. Do not expect any real contact with anything. Basically a dance class. Enjoy.

You guys dont know what you are talking about...we use bunching bags..sand filled forms, full contact with gear on...dont knock it till youve tried it then put your 2 c in
 
To the OP: Do you know what branch of Karate you're about to practice?

I'm assuming it's Shotokan or possibly "Okinawan" but just curious . . ..
 
Sorry for misunderstanding, what I meant was, in a 5 week class apac shouldn't expect much more than what I described 😛 I'd be really surprised if it were anything more than my description.
 
Originally posted by: apac
Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
To the OP: Do you know what branch of Karate you're about to practice?

I'm assuming it's Shotokan or possibly "Okinawan" but just curious . . ..

http://www.colorado.edu/rec-ce...arts/descriptions.html

The first one on that list 😛.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshin_Karate

Ooh, a variation of Kyokyushinkai! :Q :thumbsup:😀

Sounds like you're going to be doing a lot more than "punching air" as another poster stated! Good luck, and have fun! (and prepare to gt beaten! :thumbsup:😀) 😉
 
Well, I've taken a Kempo Karate class at my university for $20 or so. No uniforms... just your gym clothes. We basically did stretching and exercised for 20 minutes or so, then practiced kicking the living daylights out of air and floor mats. Excellent self-defense the next time a floor mat sneaks up behind you.

But really, it wasn't so bad. Yes, it's not very intense and there is no sparring, but you learn some forms that you could probably build on if you really wanted to continue. I'd like to learn a real self-defense type of martial art (BJJ? Muay Thai? *shrug*), but all the classes in NYC/Brooklyn are very pricey and seem to act as a children's play center or a flashy gym.
 
Originally posted by: jhayx7
You should be working one on one with someone for a week or two until you grasp all of the basic kick/punch routines of a white belt. After that you should be paired up with other white belts to practice kicks and punches.

It shouldn't be hard the first couple of weeks but it will get harder if it is a full contact style. You can wear a cup or not, depends on if you can get used to it. I never wore one unless I was fighting in a tournament.

the 1st time i read that i thought it said "you can wear a cup if you can find a used one." i was like WTF???
 
update:

Ok, ok, so maybe we didn't learn any special attacks yet. But I was happy to find that 3 of the other 6 people there were also white-belted newbies. As lots of people said, it started out by just punching air and using basic routines in front of a mirror. After a bit of that and stretching, intros, etc we paired up and got to kick each other! Ok, maybe they had the kickee use padded armguards to absorb them, but even roundhouse kicking a dude with pads is tons of fun.

So that was entertaining, but the last half of the session was spent learning the basics of a combo, which was pretty awesome. Without explaining it very well you pull your opponent off balance, knee them in the chest and kick them in the head. Now that was fun! Granted the experts that were switching off as "target dummy" were much more skilled than us newbies, and I'm sure they had a hundred counters to it, but once you get past the awkward "I put my hands where?" stage it almost feels like it could work...maybe...hey at least we got to kick people 😀.

All in all, with 9 more 1.5 hours sessions to go I'd say that's $22 well spent.
 
Originally posted by: apac
update:

Ok, ok, so maybe we didn't learn any special attacks yet. But I was happy to find that 3 of the other 6 people there were also white-belted newbies. As lots of people said, it started out by just punching air and using basic routines in front of a mirror. After a bit of that and stretching, intros, etc we paired up and got to kick each other! Ok, maybe they had the kickee use padded armguards to absorb them, but even roundhouse kicking a dude with pads is tons of fun.

So that was entertaining, but the last half of the session was spent learning the basics of a combo, which was pretty awesome. Without explaining it very well you pull your opponent off balance, knee them in the chest and kick them in the head. Now that was fun! Granted the experts that were switching off as "target dummy" were much more skilled than us newbies, and I'm sure they had a hundred counters to it, but once you get past the awkward "I put my hands where?" stage it almost feels like it could work...maybe...hey at least we got to kick people 😀.

All in all, with 9 more 1.5 hours sessions to go I'd say that's $22 well spent.

Awesome! Sounds like you had fun! Try to keep it up! :thumbsup:🙂
 
Originally posted by: lyssword
Sorry for misunderstanding, what I meant was, in a 5 week class apac shouldn't expect much more than what I described 😛 I'd be really surprised if it were anything more than my description.

right. but then he can take another class next semester and next etc.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: lyssword
Sorry for misunderstanding, what I meant was, in a 5 week class apac shouldn't expect much more than what I described 😛 I'd be really surprised if it were anything more than my description.

right. but then he can take another class next semester and next etc.

Actually, this one goes until the first week in July, then another 5 week goes to the middle of August, then they continue throughout the semesters.
 
Originally posted by: apac
update:

Ok, ok, so maybe we didn't learn any special attacks yet. But I was happy to find that 3 of the other 6 people there were also white-belted newbies. As lots of people said, it started out by just punching air and using basic routines in front of a mirror. After a bit of that and stretching, intros, etc we paired up and got to kick each other! Ok, maybe they had the kickee use padded armguards to absorb them, but even roundhouse kicking a dude with pads is tons of fun.

So that was entertaining, but the last half of the session was spent learning the basics of a combo, which was pretty awesome. Without explaining it very well you pull your opponent off balance, knee them in the chest and kick them in the head. Now that was fun! Granted the experts that were switching off as "target dummy" were much more skilled than us newbies, and I'm sure they had a hundred counters to it, but once you get past the awkward "I put my hands where?" stage it almost feels like it could work...maybe...hey at least we got to kick people 😀.

All in all, with 9 more 1.5 hours sessions to go I'd say that's $22 well spent.

And another addiction begins... 😀

For me it's Taekwondo on my feet and Taijutsu for the ground. The black belt class was only like 30 minutes twice a week, but damn if I didn't lose 10 lbs each night in pure sweat. No games there, thats when you start learning Taekwondo for REAL.

I fondly remember the peak of my Taekwondo days sparring with my friend nearly 3 hours straight every day. I swear it was like one of those fight scenes from an anime where both fighters are evenly matched elbow to elbow, shin to shin. Stupid school always getting in the way of fun stuff...
 
Originally posted by: TheNinja
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: TheNinja
My understanding is that karate is not the best art for actual fighting, unless you are fighting in tournaments. I guess any martial art is better than none for self protection though. But it is a great way to stay in shape and have fun. Plus it gives you discipline and respect.

Lot of people these ays say grappling arts are superior because '90% of street fights end up on the ground' or some rubbish. News flash - it only ends up on the ground if you fail to quickly incapacitate your opponent, which is what a striking art will enable you to do.

I'm not knocking striking arts and I think a person who is good at karate could avoid it going to the ground. I wouldn't want to be on the ground in any fight even if I was a stud grappler b/c you'll get cut up by the pavement or his buddy with stomp your face in. That being said, I'd just pick something like kickboxing or more direct. Karate in general is more fancy kicks and all about forms, not necessarily the simplest best way to take someone out. That being said, Karate would be fun and you will stay in great shape doing it.

Real karate has no fancy kicks. The kicks in kickboxing, you will learn in Karate and then some. You focus on the realistic kicks that get the job done (high and low roundhouse kicks and some spinning back kicks if you set it up right), and then a lot of punching. Karate is very basic when compared to other martial arts.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Originally posted by: apac
Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
To the OP: Do you know what branch of Karate you're about to practice?

I'm assuming it's Shotokan or possibly "Okinawan" but just curious . . ..

http://www.colorado.edu/rec-ce...arts/descriptions.html

The first one on that list 😛.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshin_Karate

Ooh, a variation of Kyokyushinkai! :Q :thumbsup:😀

Sounds like you're going to be doing a lot more than "punching air" as another poster stated! Good luck, and have fun! (and prepare to gt beaten! :thumbsup:😀) 😉

Kyokyushin FTW!

That is what I took. Full contact, fighting every class Karate! My shins and toes were in such bad shape I couldn't walk without a limp for about three months. Be sure to stock up on some OTC pain killers, BenGay, Heating Pads, Sports Tape, and some of that stick band stuff they put around your arm when you give blood because it is great for bloody knuckles.

Have fun!
 
Sounds like you did quite a bit for your first day :Q. Kind of surprised that you didn't stretch before you started doing kicks and stuff though.... Sounds like fun though; I always wanted to do a bit more sparring in classes, but ones that focused on self-defense never really did much until higher levels.

After reading the description, I'm not too surprised that you didn't do kata. Kata, if you use more than one person, you can actually see how it aims itself as being a combination of all the different self defense techniques up until that point. Using.. I think 4 other people, you could actually make the katas look like a fight 😛.
 
No offense, but why wouldn't you take a better art? Karate is really not that effective unless you are phenomenal and there are many combative arts that disable everything karate has to offer. Just wanted to let you know since I believe you could be finding a better way to defend yourself, if that's part of the reason you're attending.
 
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