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1st Digital Camera Experience/Impression... Update: 128MB Memory Stick Hot Deal! LAST DAY!
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Over exposed, I don't doubt it. It was so friggen bright that day I couldn't stand it. Everything was left at default settings. I'm just trying to get a feel for how it shoots right now. Never used a digital camera before last week. Best I could get was Snappy screen captures from my Hi8 camcorder. Believe me, the worst shot I've seen from this camera is 10 times better than the best Snappy capture!
Edit: Here's one I snapped of our ride before we left for the air show. No it isn't mine, we're just borrowing it.
Here's a Jeep and it's dash. Oh, and what the hell, here's a plane!
Edit: Here's one I snapped of our ride before we left for the air show. No it isn't mine, we're just borrowing it.
Here's a Jeep and it's dash. Oh, and what the hell, here's a plane!
littlezipp
Golden Member
I must say, very nice pictures.
Ornery, you'll want to mess around with the auto white balance, or Sony's equivalent there of. On my G2 I can switch over to a "sunny" setting and eliminate a lot of the brightness that you have in those outdoor pics.
And on the flip side of things, I can set the AWB to cloudy on overcast days and brighten the pics up with the camera, instead of doing it in photoshop afterwards.
The AWB is especially handy when indoors under florecent and "normal" lightbulb lighting. Gets rid of the various "non-white" tints that you see under the "auto" settings.
And on the flip side of things, I can set the AWB to cloudy on overcast days and brighten the pics up with the camera, instead of doing it in photoshop afterwards.
The AWB is especially handy when indoors under florecent and "normal" lightbulb lighting. Gets rid of the various "non-white" tints that you see under the "auto" settings.
Thanks, I'll try that a few times. My SLR was ALWAYS white balanced during EVERY shoot. Wouldn't bother me a bit to white balance this one routinely if it yeilds a better picture. I showed the boys how to white balance it when we first got the camera, but the auto white balance gave me better results (indoor flash) than my efforts, so I just left it alone after that. Hmmm, ought to start looking at filters too I guess... 😎
RossMAN
Grand Nagus
Attn all of you Sony laptop/desktop/digicam fanboi's (yes that's what you are, don't even try denying it).
SanDisk 128MB Memory Stick media for $47 after rebate.
SanDisk 128MB Memory Stick media for $47 after rebate.
Here's a link to the rebate Haven't searched Amazon yet, cause I doubt I'll bother getting another stick for a while. I was hoping to apply the rebate to the one I just bought at Buy.com.
Thanks for the heads up!
Wish I had more time to play with this camera. Wish I'd used something else before, so I'd have something to compare it to. I'm just thrilled to be able to shoot one picture after another without worrying about wasting film and processing it. Something you guys have been enjoying for years now!
Edit: I assume you're talking about the plane? I really don't know one from another. I do know there was supposed to be a C130 there, and I know how huge those are, but it was MIA by the time I got to the show. Got tons of pics of just a few different planes, but I'm sure you've seen it all before if you're into WWII planes etc.
Thanks for the heads up!
Wish I had more time to play with this camera. Wish I'd used something else before, so I'd have something to compare it to. I'm just thrilled to be able to shoot one picture after another without worrying about wasting film and processing it. Something you guys have been enjoying for years now!
Edit: I assume you're talking about the plane? I really don't know one from another. I do know there was supposed to be a C130 there, and I know how huge those are, but it was MIA by the time I got to the show. Got tons of pics of just a few different planes, but I'm sure you've seen it all before if you're into WWII planes etc.
rjcoolpix880
Member
Digital photography is one of my favorite things to do. I have taken like 5000 photos with my digital, many of which are on my website in my signiture.
One thing that newer photographers dont notice it the lighting. Indoors is a bad place to get great photos. It also looks like you were in a factory? I have a summer job in a factory and it is dark in there. Yet it is all relative. Our eyes adjust and we think that it may be sufficiently bright when it is not.
I have a Nikon coolpix880 which i picked up a year and a half ago. I allways use one setting. The letter "A" for aperture priority. I can manually adjust the apeture, and the film speed is adjusted automatically. If it is dark I use the biggest aperture opening, smaller F/Stop number(usually around 3) When i am outside or use a tripos i use the smaller apeture opening (around 9). Think of apeture like the way your eyes work, indoors your iris or whatever its called is open wide , and outside vice versa. Also check your film speed if you can adjust it to the largest number possible - 400, 800 whatever. The larger the film speed, the less light required to expose the CCD.(yet the faster the film speed the more grain the picture has)
These settings are saved on my camera and i punch at it for maybe 2 seconds to change the apeture when i first turn it on at each place.
Since you are indoors and you have the large apeture opening, and fast film speed the combonation with the flash should allow for the goal of a fast shutter speed. If you camera notes the shutter speed with each shot look at it. If it is less/slower that 1/20th of a second and you are shooting it by hand every shot will be blury. So place it on something, brace youself, use a tripod(if possible) to eliminate any motion.
One thing that newer photographers dont notice it the lighting. Indoors is a bad place to get great photos. It also looks like you were in a factory? I have a summer job in a factory and it is dark in there. Yet it is all relative. Our eyes adjust and we think that it may be sufficiently bright when it is not.
I have a Nikon coolpix880 which i picked up a year and a half ago. I allways use one setting. The letter "A" for aperture priority. I can manually adjust the apeture, and the film speed is adjusted automatically. If it is dark I use the biggest aperture opening, smaller F/Stop number(usually around 3) When i am outside or use a tripos i use the smaller apeture opening (around 9). Think of apeture like the way your eyes work, indoors your iris or whatever its called is open wide , and outside vice versa. Also check your film speed if you can adjust it to the largest number possible - 400, 800 whatever. The larger the film speed, the less light required to expose the CCD.(yet the faster the film speed the more grain the picture has)
These settings are saved on my camera and i punch at it for maybe 2 seconds to change the apeture when i first turn it on at each place.
Since you are indoors and you have the large apeture opening, and fast film speed the combonation with the flash should allow for the goal of a fast shutter speed. If you camera notes the shutter speed with each shot look at it. If it is less/slower that 1/20th of a second and you are shooting it by hand every shot will be blury. So place it on something, brace youself, use a tripod(if possible) to eliminate any motion.
You're just itching to make me RTFM aren't ya, coolpix? 😉
I haven't had time to get serious. Just using it as a point and shoot for now, adjusting a few things here and there as I go. I'm completely familiar with Aperture F-stops and shutter speed on a normal SLR, but not certain at all about capabilities of this (or any) digicam. My wife has a point and shoot camera that will NOT shoot a picture (in default mode) if there isn't enough light, out of focus etc. I didn't know if this thing was that automatic or not. Apparently not. I was hoping to set the faster shutter speed and have the camera "warn" me that there wasn't enough light, but that didn't happen.
Just peaked at the metadata for one of the dark images:
I haven't had time to get serious. Just using it as a point and shoot for now, adjusting a few things here and there as I go. I'm completely familiar with Aperture F-stops and shutter speed on a normal SLR, but not certain at all about capabilities of this (or any) digicam. My wife has a point and shoot camera that will NOT shoot a picture (in default mode) if there isn't enough light, out of focus etc. I didn't know if this thing was that automatic or not. Apparently not. I was hoping to set the faster shutter speed and have the camera "warn" me that there wasn't enough light, but that didn't happen.
Just peaked at the metadata for one of the dark images:
- Exposure Time - .01
F-number - 2.4
ISO Speed Rating - 100 (set to auto)
Max Aperture Value - 2.0625 (not sure if it could have opened this much, on this shot or not)
Focal Length - 45.8
Ornery,
That picture has plenty of info in it... and that's the most important thing. Just remember, a dark picture can be enhanced to bring out the detail, but a picture that is too bright and has highlights "blown out" is helpless... the detail is gone. It's always better, if you have to err, to do it on the side of a little under exposed.
I took the liberty of playing for a minute or two with your picture using PSP. I'm NOT even an intermediate user, so don't take this pic as a really good example of what is possible, only that you can do a lot with pics.
Laura
If you want to be able to lighten the pic's a little, think about a tripod or perhaps a monopod (less conspicuous) so that you could take longer exposures without the flash. The 707 already has about the fastest lens available on camera's in it's class (F2-F2.4), so you can't really go any further in that direction.
I actually think the pic is a really nice candid shot.
Joe
That picture has plenty of info in it... and that's the most important thing. Just remember, a dark picture can be enhanced to bring out the detail, but a picture that is too bright and has highlights "blown out" is helpless... the detail is gone. It's always better, if you have to err, to do it on the side of a little under exposed.
I took the liberty of playing for a minute or two with your picture using PSP. I'm NOT even an intermediate user, so don't take this pic as a really good example of what is possible, only that you can do a lot with pics.
Laura
If you want to be able to lighten the pic's a little, think about a tripod or perhaps a monopod (less conspicuous) so that you could take longer exposures without the flash. The 707 already has about the fastest lens available on camera's in it's class (F2-F2.4), so you can't really go any further in that direction.
I actually think the pic is a really nice candid shot.
Joe
Thanks Joe. If you notice in my fourth post here, I have a link to this picture of Laura. It was shot just prior to the one you worked on, using the same settings and was just as dark. When I use PhotoShop for something like that, I just open the Image/Adjust/Levels tool and adjust the middle slider to the left to brighten it. Just enough to see the details in the shadows. That leaves the full light to dark range intact, so you don't have to mess with contrast or anything else. Just one quick adjustment and you're out of there!
Just did an experiment. Shot four images of a dim corner in this room without flash. I bracketed each shot up a couple notches with the "EV" level. Now looking at the VERY DARK images, I don't see a damn bit of difference! Hmmm, page 74 of the manual (yes, I'm reading it now), says "If the subject is under extremely dark or bright conditions, the Exposure Adjustment may not be effective. <sigh> I'll figure this out!
Just did an experiment. Shot four images of a dim corner in this room without flash. I bracketed each shot up a couple notches with the "EV" level. Now looking at the VERY DARK images, I don't see a damn bit of difference! Hmmm, page 74 of the manual (yes, I'm reading it now), says "If the subject is under extremely dark or bright conditions, the Exposure Adjustment may not be effective. <sigh> I'll figure this out!
well, with canon, they give u software with the camera to do this (because there is a feature in the camera (well, my G2 anyways) ) to help ya take some pictures in preparation for "stitching". what you are doing is, you take a picture of a scene, move the camera over a little and framing it so that part of the original shot remains in the "new" shot, and then the rest of the "new" shot will contain the scene from the next image. this overlapping allows the software to mesh the pictures together. you can take as many pictures and stitch them together either horizontally or vertically. it is pretty good actually. the algorithm is pretty complex.
in fact, you can use the canon software with ANY pictures from ANY camera. it doesnt matter. there are some freeware programs that do this i believe, but if u are a canon user, you will probably be better off with the software that came with the camera.
hope that sounds coherent. 😉
in fact, you can use the canon software with ANY pictures from ANY camera. it doesnt matter. there are some freeware programs that do this i believe, but if u are a canon user, you will probably be better off with the software that came with the camera.
hope that sounds coherent. 😉
StattlichPassat
Banned
Ornery, look here - it's about using a flash, but there may be some good exposure tips in there as well.
Ross, for me anyway, Canon includes a program called "photostitch". On my G2, I've got a "stitching" mode. I flip to the mode and take a shot. On the LCD, the image shows up in half the screen. On the other half, I get a realtime image of what I'm viewing. I line up my next shot with half of the previous image(still showing on half the screen) to make as seemless of an image as I can. When I snap that picture, the one I just took shows up on the side of the LCD, and waits for me to line up my next shot.
When I'm all done shooting, I take the camera home, select the pictures, tell them to go to photostitch, and it does the work for me.
Here's my first attempt at using Photostitch. The original image was over 12 meg, so it's greatly reduced.
Ross, for me anyway, Canon includes a program called "photostitch". On my G2, I've got a "stitching" mode. I flip to the mode and take a shot. On the LCD, the image shows up in half the screen. On the other half, I get a realtime image of what I'm viewing. I line up my next shot with half of the previous image(still showing on half the screen) to make as seemless of an image as I can. When I snap that picture, the one I just took shows up on the side of the LCD, and waits for me to line up my next shot.
When I'm all done shooting, I take the camera home, select the pictures, tell them to go to photostitch, and it does the work for me.
Here's my first attempt at using Photostitch. The original image was over 12 meg, so it's greatly reduced.
Follow Joe's link to Panorama Factory and start stitching in minutes! I did our living room five minutes after downloading it. Did the front yard the next day. It's best to overlap by 20% from what I've read.
I'm already spending a LOT of time on DPReview's forums, vi_edit, but I missed that flash trick. Pretty cool. 😎
I'm already spending a LOT of time on DPReview's forums, vi_edit, but I missed that flash trick. Pretty cool. 😎
Bullhonkie
Golden Member
Just get it already RossMAN. You know you want it. It's calling out to you. 😉
Anyway in all seriousness, the A40 does have a photo-stitch mode and has the Canon PhotoStitch software on the CD. I've been extremely satisfied with my A40 (got it in the OM deal with the PM+coupon, about $230 or so in the end after tax I think) and it did great on my vacation to Japan and Vietnam. I haven't gotten my pictures back yet from the trip (had to dump them onto my uncle's laptop since I decided not to bring mine), but as soon as I can get him to burn them onto a CD for me, I'll be able to stitch together the few 'photostitch-assisted' panoramic pictures I took.
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