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Rumpltzer

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Originally posted by: eLiTeGoodGuy
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Not that I would know, but the whole staying friends after the divorce thing doesn't seem like it will work.
hehe I kinda figured that. It's weird though she's called me like 4 or 5 times on my way back to DC and not once did she mention what we talked about, in a weird sort fo way she sounded kinda happy lol. Mostly "just wanting to make sure your not too tired to drive" and "How much further you got?"
I'm sorry to hear about your marriage.

About the "friends" thing; I'd advise against it. I'm not saying you need to be an ass about it, but you don't need to be friends. I imagine the divorce will get messy... but even if it doesn't, I'd encourage you to just walk away for a while. No talking, no email, no messaging, etc. for a six months to a year. If it's so important after that time to be friends, then be friends. Otherwise, move on with your life.

Good luck.
 

fire400

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I never really support divorce, since I see so many of them, let alone hear about the catastrophic events of aftermathematical consequences. When we make a decision, the results follow, and the consequential happenings are not for us to chose. You must be going through some pretty hard times, but don't give up!

Sounds like you and your wife need to be creative during these holiday weeks if you plan on really focusing your efforts on rearranging your mindset from splitting to reuniting. We see so much of it in the nation, divorce rates are 1 and 2. Anyone can get married, essentially, and generally speaking; but it takes time, patience and effort for any relationship to work out, in the beginning and end.

But when one door closes, another (two) will open.

If you dissect your daily patterns of divorces here in America, you will find at least one thing in common, blame. People will always have this problem until they learn how to get over themselves. Since you are the husband, you are the head of the family. Not to say that women are not as capable, but that's usually the image of it all. So when the common person looks at a family, he may think first about how the father is doing?

... but the fact of the matter is, you have a marriage to save. If you think really hard, you'll remember why this was the women you chose to marry, and possibly have kids with if you don't already have any, but I don't recall reading anything about children from your post? Sounds like both of you are broken hearted. That's one thing both of you share in common at this point in time. So one month to see how things fall into place? You should set some goals in the time you have left, the last potential month of being with your wife could be the last 4 weeks of feeling how little more complete you were if you decide to go with the finale of a divorce. The transition will be hard, but not impossible, as so many Americans have proven themselves to be capable of matters with respect to statistical reaffirmaties.

I stand as your witness to say "no" to the divorce. So I make an offer to challenge yousrlf - that what you went through in the past few months, you need to summon all of your energy and put more into this last month of attempting for the success of the relationship working out somehow before the year ends. Marriage will always have it's ups and downs, and you made a vow that no matter treading through the thickest or thinnest of ice, you would walk from hell and back together, to see things through to the end even if everything seemed so broken apart. There isn't any happiness in the sacrifice of other human beings, I tell myself that all the time when I want to give up on my radar technician team.

Sometimes we have to think about ourselves less and put others ahead of their actions. My dad had three sons, I was one of them. We were dirt broke trying to move to Minnesota and settling down as a family, and my mom tried everything she could think of to raise our family of sons and daughters. All of my brothers and sisters headed in different directions, high points in life and the downfalls that followed us around like broken shadows. My dad got greedy with his time and decided to build his image in the process. After seeing so many of his assets rise without unnecessary question, everyone in my family who was an adult looked back at it all - and there was so much we missed out as a family. If I could take one thing back, it would be trying to be like everyone else, running away from problems that needed mending in the home. I blamed fatique, that made me a coward. During those years I pushed for the divorce between my mom and dad, I really hated a lot of things and failed to accept responsibility. My parents are still trying to work it out, but I tell you, even if they get divorced in the end, they both will still be unquestionably sad. Of the good memories that were left from our family, I used those puzzle peices to try and build from scratch after I decided to move out, and it was painful indeed. Families, no matter how big or small, aren't really for our deciding if we want to seperate, because once a family, always a family. There is nothing that can replace the gaps that we leave between our familiy members when we decide to give up, except for love and patience, anything opposed to this include the logic of unhappiness.
From the beginning, you made that decision to love your wife with all your heart. And love alone, is a verb, to simplify all of that, an action. Not just any kind, but a type of emotion that helps heal the pain and sorrow that we face day to day. If you feel you've tried everything in thought and action, from tear to sweat, through heart ache and selfless misery to satisfy boundaries of your ability to keep a promise, then I hope you are happy and understand that every open door isn't always the best gateway until you've somehow grapsed what is on the other side.
We can see a horizon, dim or bright, but it's never the end without a beginning. Every end is a new beginning. And without thought of what happened in the beginning, everything in the mind is a dead end, only to await a recycling effect that we will find hard to recognize if the mind is not trained to know what truly makes us happy. So train, and remember if you know you are doing everything in your power to makes things right, you shouldn't be afraid of letting people know they need to evolve or stay miserable.
Hamlet would say, "to be or not to be."
 

cherrytwist

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So many people to jump on the lawyer bandwagon...

My wife divorced her ex in a very civil, simple divorce.

Not that either had much, but they were still friends.

They still remain friendly to this day...

He helped us move, and he bought a custom built computer from me.

He's overseas and they still communicate from time to time, but wow...grow up people. Divorce not always such a terrible thing people make it out to be. It sounds like there is a lot of bitterness and inexperience in this thread. That or you watch too much TV.
 

LtPage1

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Originally posted by: Shame
Get a lawyer.

Yeah- when you go see one, don't throw out his/her phone number in case your wife decides to screw you for all you're worth.
 

rubix

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don't even bother with a lawyer. just start pretending you don't even know her. like when she walks into your house act all startled and scream and call the cops. if the cops come and are all like "why is there a picture over there of you standing next to her and smiling" just scream some more and call the cops on those cops.

if you keep this up long enough everyone will believe you and it will be like it never happened. remember: you have no idea who this lady is and have never met her.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: cherrytwist
So many people to jump on the lawyer bandwagon...

My wife divorced her ex in a very civil, simple divorce.

Not that either had much, but they were still friends.

They still remain friendly to this day...

I wouldnt place odds on that in vegas... 1 in 1000 ? :)
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: eLiTeGoodGuy
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Not that I would know, but the whole staying friends after the divorce thing doesn't seem like it will work.

hehe I kinda figured that. It's weird though she's called me like 4 or 5 times on my way back to DC and not once did she mention what we talked about, in a weird sort fo way she sounded kinda happy lol. Mostly "just wanting to make sure your not too tired to drive" and "How much further you got?"

Because she wanted to know how long she had until the other guy had to leave.
 

moshquerade

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all women/wife bashing aside, because we know you are totally blameless in this divorce, it's really too bad you got married in the first place.
 

kmrivers

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Divorce is necessary sometimes. No sense being stuck with someone you don't want to be with. You can't make it work with everybody. Get a lawyer OP. Try and do this as clean as possible. Since she was cheating, doesn't that have a bearing on the division of assets?
 

compuwiz1

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Your ass will be laminated to her support arrangement. Sucks to be you, but that's what happens, here in the good ol USA. Women, who deserve nothing, walk away with everything. They must be blowing teh Judges, I'll tell ya. :(
 

rudder

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Do you own a home? Then you better not move out. If you have any assets involved like a house, get a lawyer or she can take you to the cleaners.
 

lokiju

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If you want the house or your half of what the house is worth at least then I'd say that no matter what you should not leave there until the divorce is finalized no matter how hard it is.

My uncle made that mistake and lost his home since he moved out during the divorce process and the judge awarded her the house.

The guy gets screwed over all the time so just be aware of that. You mentioned about starting up your own business and that you don't have the money, but if you have her refinance the home and buy you out by giving you half of its value (assuming she wants to keep the house) then you'd have the money you'd need to get that business off the ground. If she and you both don't want to keep the home then sell it and again you got your money (assuming you have some equity in the home).

My very good friend just went through a divorce this past year and was able to do it without a lawyer, he did most of it via forms and then they had to go to the court house a few times together, so it is possible to do this if both you and her are truly willing to do so without trying to screw over the other person. Biggest issue there is that you and your wife might both totally agree and feel that you don't want it to be a battle but once all the friends and family know about it they'll rally around you and her and push and encourage to take the other to the cleaners, from what I've seen it seems that a lot of times the wife in this situation will all the sudden have a change of heart and suddenly you're in a situation you aren't prepared for.

I hate to see this sort of stuff all the time on here since I just got married a month ago but I suppose it's just a reality of life.

Best of luck to you though.
 
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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Your ass will be laminated to her support arrangement. Sucks to be you, but that's what happens, here in the good ol USA. Women, who deserve nothing, walk away with everything. They must be blowing teh Judges, I'll tell ya. :(


like heather mills

she deserve absolutely nothing. yet i have a feeling sir paul will be skint when all is said and done
 

purbeast0

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I say go with your dream and become a dive master. that would be awesome to live somewhere where the weather is warm all the time and the water is crystal clear. if i had my way, i would be living in some tropical environment (such as aruba) but it's a lot easier said than done.