19" Trinitron CRTs

[NickelPlate]

Hi All,

Where's a good place to buy a 19" Trinitron CRT monitor. My current one is getting very old and I'm pretty sure Sony basically discontinued them . I really wish I could get a Sony HMD-A440 FD. Thanks.

 

[myocardia]

You could try e-Bay, but you can't buy them new, I'm sure you know.

 

[Puffnstuff]

If you live near Jacksonville, FL I'll sell you a G400 that I have as a spare monitor. I've gone all lcd and it is an extra that I have.

 

[MichaelD]

Any particular reason you're hung up on a Trinitron CRT? As has been said, you can't find them new anymore. And even if you find a used one in exceptionally good condition, you're gonna pay $$$ in shipping costs because they are boat anchors.

A superb 19" LCD can be had for less than $400 these days. A really, really good 19" LCD can be had for under $300.

 

[NickelPlate]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Any particular reason you're hung up on a Trinitron CRT? As has been said, you can't find them new anymore. And even if you find a used one in exceptionally good condition, you're gonna pay $$$ in shipping costs because they are boat anchors.

A superb 19" LCD can be had for less than $400 these days. A really, really good 19" LCD can be had for under $300.

The biggest problem I have with LCDs is they (at least the ones I've seen) look terrible outside of their native resolutions (blurry and fuzzy). They are fantastic at their native res however. With a CRT, I can run different games at different resolutions and refresh rates to get the performance I'm after without the poor image quality.

If LCDs didn't have that limitation, I would have upgraded a long time ago. I have an LCD at work and the color reproduction and crispness is far superior to my CRT at its native 1280x1024. I took it home one weekend though to try it out for games at non native resolutions and just couldn't deal with it.

 

[MichaelD]

I'm looking at your sig; you have an 8800GTS! Why in the world would you run any game NOT at the native res?

For older games that only support say, up to 1024x768, any good LCD has auto-scaling. In other words, even though the native res of the LCD may be 1280x1024, it will "scale" the picture down to 10x76 and it will look fine.

What kind of LCD did you bring home from work? Was it a cheapie?

 

[NickelPlate]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm looking at your sig; you have an 8800GTS! Why in the world would you run any game NOT at the native res?

For older games that only support say, up to 1024x768, any good LCD has auto-scaling. In other words, even though the native res of the LCD may be 1280x1024, it will "scale" the picture down to 10x76 and it will look fine.

What kind of LCD did you bring home from work? Was it a cheapie?

While the 8800GTS is a great card it still has it's limits. I can run fear at 1600x1200 with all the eye candy and 2xAA smooth as glass 60+fps. But in Oblivion I occasionally get slowdowns at that resolution with HDR + AA with everything turned up so I back off to 1280x1024 and it smooths things out in the more demanding areas and still looks great. I still play some older titles too that don't even support resolutions that high. Not too mention as the card ages I will be forced to run lower resolutions with newer games to maintain above 60fps until I upgrade again. So you can see I'm all over the map.

My work LCD is a Dell 1704FPT. Is that consider a cheapy? It looks great at native. Can you recommend some high end, high quality LCDs. I'm willing to give them another look.

 

[HannibalX]

I have a Samsung 225 BW. This is a 22", widescreen, 5ms LCD. The panel is a TN panel.

I use this monitor for everything. I game on it, do all my take home work on it (lots of spread sheets, office apps), watch movies, etc. I love it, really great monitor.

The LCD nuts here will tell you a TN panel is junk, but I disagree. With 5ms response time I get ZERO ghosting. The TN panels are known for their lighter blacks around the edges (if that make sense) but I don't consider that a reason not to buy.

I love my Samsung and I would recommend it, or any other 22" TN of a different brand 5ms or lower.

 

[Puffnstuff]

When shopping lcd's you have to apply the old rule of dot pitch just like on a crt. My planar has .255 dot pitch on every pixel which renders a sharp picture just like my sony does. Refresh rates don't matter as much since each pixel refreshes itself versus an electron gun refreshing the entire screen line by line and side to side. At 60hz an lcd won't flicker and right now the prices are at the lowest they've ever been. When the new breed of led backlit panels shows up the prices for conventional lcd's should bottom out.

 

[lamere]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Any particular reason you're hung up on a Trinitron CRT? As has been said, you can't find them new anymore. And even if you find a used one in exceptionally good condition, you're gonna pay $$$ in shipping costs because they are boat anchors.

A superb 19" LCD can be had for less than $400 these days. A really, really good 19" LCD can be had for under $300.

because LCD's are still vastly inferior to CRT's still and probably will be until they come out with a new technology. *prays* Hopefully LCDs will eventually go to the office wayside and get out of the enthusiast community. They are just not cutting it for enthusiast's needs.
i cant blame anyone for wanting to still use CRT's, i do and love it

 

[cpmer]

lol the guy is asking where to buy a crt and all of the responses are about why he should buy a lcd monitor. sigh

 

[lamere]

Originally posted by: cpmer
lol the guy is asking where to buy a crt and all of the responses are about why he should buy a lcd monitor. sigh

i know, i have yet to understand why everyone id hung up on LCD technology, it sucks.
Just because its new, does not mean its better Anyone in the enthusiast community should have this embedded into their head by now.

he can look locally on craigslist on in the paper, ebay, google, there are alot of sites still selling refurbished models, but at a price.

 

[Skitzer]

Try here:
Dell 19" Trinitron

I still use this very monitor to game on. I have a 19" LCD on my main rig but I always come back to my Trinitron for gaming.

 

[MichaelD]

@ Lamere

LCD technology is new as compared to the CRT which has been around, what, 70 years? But hardly is it "new."

And crappy LCDs do indeed suck. However, I dare say my Dell 2407WFP is better than 75% of the CRTs out there.

And I do love actually having desktop space on my desktop. I had a Sony 19" Trinitron (actually still have it...it's in storage). I loved it until it got old (after about 9 years) and took awhile to warm up. Until it did, the picture was a bit fuzzy. It also developed a high-pitched squeal at the 100Hz refresh rate I liked. It weighs about 60 pounds, gives off heat like a furnace and occupies about 6 square feet of desktop space.

You were saying something about CRTs being better?

Yeah, I know; superior blacks, more filmlike picture etc. I am big into HT, so I know all about it.

But now that I've been LCDs for a few years I could never see myself going back.

I hope the OP finds what he wants.

 

[lamere]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
@ Lamere

LCD technology is new as compared to the CRT which has been around, what, 70 years? But hardly is it "new."

And crappy LCDs do indeed suck. However, I dare say my Dell 2407WFP is better than 75% of the CRTs out there.

And I do love actually having desktop space on my desktop. I had a Sony 19" Trinitron (actually still have it...it's in storage). I loved it until it got old (after about 9 years) and took awhile to warm up. Until it did, the picture was a bit fuzzy. It also developed a high-pitched squeal at the 100Hz refresh rate I liked. It weighs about 60 pounds, gives off heat like a furnace and occupies about 6 square feet of desktop space.

You were saying something about CRTs being better?

Yeah, I know; superior blacks, more filmlike picture etc. I am big into HT, so I know all about it.

But now that I've been LCDs for a few years I could never see myself going back.

I hope the OP finds what he wants.

Sure, LCD technology has been around for 70 years, but IN A WRISTWATCH And my benq F241W puts out more heat that my HP 24" WS CRT
Back in the box it went until the CRT dies.....i'll deal with the "handicap" which up until now didnt seem to be a handicap for anyone.
With all the issues that LCD's have its hard to believe anyone saying they are better than CRT's.
Anything IMPORTANT that people prefer a CRT for makes them better off the bat. You just dont see anyone using an LCD for color critical work and gamers are dropping them like flies because they cant keep up in the frag world vs the OP who are still using crt's.
Alot more threads interested in and looking for CRT's i see as of late, and i can see why

 

[NickelPlate]

I'm starting to get pretty worried about finding one. I've been searching for awhile now and keep coming up short. I've even been looking for a new NEC/Mitsubishi Diamondtron and can't find them either.

Viewsonic appears to be about the only company making new CRTs these days but the reviews of their "Perfect Flat" CRTs are so so. And years ago I bought one locally and returned it because it wasn't that great.

It's looking more and more like a refurb Trinitron is in my future and probably soon before these monitors are completely unavailable, used, refurbed or otherwise.

 

[pradeep1]

PC Retro has good quality used trinitrons on sale for under $100.

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You may want to give them a call and ask about the specific model and they can probably find you one.

Also see craigslist. You can get them really cheap here:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/sys/323524932.html

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/sys/300859538.html

 

[Mem]

With all the issues that LCD's have its hard to believe anyone saying they are better than CRT's.
Anything IMPORTANT that people prefer a CRT for makes them better off the bat. You just dont see anyone using an LCD for color critical work and gamers are dropping them like flies because they cant keep up in the frag world vs the OP who are still using crt's.
Alot more threads interested in and looking for CRT's i see as of late, and i can see why

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Personally I prefer a good 8 bit widescreen LCD now to CRT ,especially for gaming , I have had too many issues over the years with CRTs from poor geometry to focus problems let alone weight and size(repacking CRTs back for RMA is no fun),I have seen too many CRTs lose focus integrity over time with usage,LCDs the only thing you have to worry about are dead pixels,scaling is not really a problem I find since some LCDs do 1.1 scaling and you can also do it via software with Nvidia Control panel in most cases.

Colour wise a good 8 bit LCD with proper monitor calibration (something like ColorVison Spyder) solves a lot of problems in that area.

So you see CRTs certainly have their own MANY issues,don't kid yourself into thinking they are perfect,far from it.

I'll have a nice 8bit WS LCD properly calibrated over a CRT anytime.

 

[Oyeve]

DVDs still look much better on a quality CRT than an LCD.