16ms typ 19" lcd(found)

[fredtam]

Does anyone speak this language Text? It list both the 19" and 20" models at 16ms on this site however on the U.S. site only the 20" model appears and list the response time as 25ms max(not typical). Could this be the one I've been waiting for?

 

[Dacalo]

LG = Korean company

I can read Korean, but not the language you linked

 

[fredtam]

I am familiar with LG. I can't seem to link to the product page however. Here are the specs as listed.



L1910B
Flatron 19" TFT/LCD skärm. En ny generations TFT skärm med tunnare panel och läcker slimmad design.

Skärmstorlek 19
Skärmtyp TFT-LCD
Färger 16,8 mill
Upplösning 12080 x 1024/75Hz (Analog), 1280 x 1024 /60Hz (Digital)
Responstid 16 msec
Ljusstyrka 250 cd/m2
Kontrast 400
Betraktningsvinkel 176/176 (H/V)
USB 2 in 2 out
Ingångar 15 Pin-D Sub, RGB analog/Digital
TCO TCO 99
Högtalare no
Övrigt
Digital ingång

Jämför TFT bildskärmar
Visa fler bilder
Produktblad i PDF
Produktkatalog Flatron vår 2003

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

LG=Lucky Goldstar. The language on that site is Scandinavian, Norwegian I think.

 

[FrustratedUser]

L1910B
Flatron 19" TFT/LCD Monitor. A new generation monitor with thinner panel and slimmed design.

Monitor size 19"
Type TFT-LCD
Colors 16.8 mil
Resolution 1280 x 1025/75Hz (Analog), 1280 x 1024/60Hz (Digital)
Responsetime 16ms
Brightness 250 cd/m2
Contrast 400
Angle of view 176/176 (Hor/Vert)
USB: 2 In 2 Out
Inputs: 15 pin D-Sub, RGB Analog/Digital
TCO 99
Speakers: no
Digital input

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: GetInMyFatBelly
LG=Lucky Goldstar. The language on that site is Scandinavian, Norwegian I think.

It is Swedish

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: fredtam
Does anyone speak this language Text? It list both the 19" and 20" models at 16ms on this site however on the U.S. site only the 20" model appears and list the response time as 25ms max(not typical). Could this be the one I've been waiting for?

Yes this is the one!

But check this!!

 

[FrustratedUser]

Or this.

 

[zephyrprime]

Yikes! can that be right! 30" with 12ms and 20" with 16ms!

 

[JZilla]

Good find. We have to get Kubicki to confirm this. LG has said that they would introduce a 12ms monitor this summer.

Edit: Just browsed around and most shops lists the LG 2010P as 24-30ms.

 

[Czar]

I can read a bit

http://www.lgenordic.com/images/cached/1040209109.L2010P.pdf
my drool belongs to this!!!

there are quite many stores in sweeden that sell products from them

http://www.lgenordic.com/cgi-bin/surf.cgi?id=181
the store locator

 

[AnthonyB]

I rang LG in Sweden and asked about both these new 19in/20in models - this is the gist of what he said.

19in.

This is totally new panel for LG. They've not had a 19in before. Strickly speaking it shouldn't be up on the website yet because it's not due to be launced until the autumn. It's a one off that's been specially ordered for a important customer. It is 16ms. The viewing angles of 176/176 are very high for a TFT panel.

20in.

This is available now, even in the UK - see the link below. 16ms too but the viewing angles not as good. Availability is 1 - 2 days from this supplier.

Prices:

Difficult to compare prices in Sweden to elsewhere but he says they should be comparable to current 19in/20in models. This Swedish supplier (ww.dustin.se) lists the 20in as costing 11,795.00Kr - about £900 or $1500 ex local taxes.

LG 20.1" TFT-LCD

UK website details:

http://www.lge.co.uk/mod_perl/go.pl...onitors.htm?product_uid=2511&category_uid=643

Nothing about the 19in 16ms model on the UK site though.

I tried calling LG in the UK to see what they had to say about it but couldn't get through to anyone. I'll try again later.

Edit: Forgot to mention - the 1 - 2 days availability is for the Swedish supplier. Don't know about the UK or anywhere else.

 

[Chadder007]

WTF??? Why don't they sell those units here????????????!!!! (in the US)

 

[GaryShandling]

hmm......this changes everything.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: GaryShandling
hmm......this changes everything.

what was down is now up

 

[GaryShandling]

something must be wrong here...i have a feeling the colour is gonna suck big ones.

 

[fredtam]

The 30" model is selling for $3000 US overseas and is listed as available on the us website but I can't find any vendors who have them. Also on the US site the response time is listed as 22ms (12 rise,12 fall) instead of the swedish 12ms typical.

 

[Viper96720]

Ah ha so they're probably just stating the rise or fall time and not the total.

 

[fredtam]

Still a 22ms response isn't that shabby on a monitor this size. The only other >19" with a sub 25ms response is the Sharp T19d1h with 20ms (700:1 contrast and 300nit brightness).
At $800 dollars I am considering buying it if I can only find somewhere to see it in person.

 

[JZilla]

Don't believe anything you read fredtam.

I am having a hard time believing this LG stuff. It was already established at page 74 in the gigantic ars thread, that the panel in the 20" has a response time of 25. Here and here (warning: pdf). And the 19" doesn't even show up at those pages. But kudos to LG, if they have indeed pulled it off.

 

[fredtam]

I have participated in that thread and I agree. The only thing that I would add is that the response times are listed as 25ms max while other models of the same company (other companies also) are listed as 25ms typical. I wonder if "typical" is the reason some users experience severe ghosting while others see very liitle. Is "typical" a production term meaning that the majority of the monitors produced will perform to that spec or is it a term meaning aresponse time could vary from 15ms to 35ms while averaging 25ms. If either is true putting a cap on a response time would be a good thing and may be an interim solution to advertising a 16ms panel which cannot be guaranteed to work at that spec.

 

[Viper96720]

Yep anything 25ms or better is great for a monitor of that size.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: JZilla
Don't believe anything you read fredtam.

Before you assume I can't read at all I would like to say that I do know what a typical response time is and my previous post was simply to generate thought on the matter.
If you will notice in the pdf you linked to list the "max" response time as 50ms which is "typical" for 25ms panels. My whole point is that the "max" response time has been capped at 25ms which is not "typical" of other flat panels.

 

[GaryShandling]

Max 25ms is good enough for me on anything above 18". Im gonna check this baby out, make a few calls e.t.c.

 

[JZilla]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: JZilla
Don't believe anything you read fredtam.

Before you assume I can't read at all I would like to say that I do know what a typical response time is and my previous post was simply to generate thought on the matter.
If you will notice in the pdf you linked to list the "max" response time as 50ms which is "typical" for 25ms panels. My whole point is that the "max" response time has been capped at 25ms which is not "typical" of other flat panels.

Where can you see that is has been capped at 25ms? I can't find it anywhere.

It would be great though, if LG have done it. But I must say, that until this has been proven, I am highly sceptical.

Anyway, my point was not to blindly trust what companies tell you about their products. This goes for any companies, not just the companies in this business.

Edit: Just seen the 25ms max at the LG US site, but if you view the pdf file, it says 25ms typ.