16 year drives drunk and kills 4 people and gets sentenced...

[SMOGZINN]

"because they're rich"...
does that mean they are given special privileges because of status?
or does it mean they are actually paying people off?
or high priced lawyers?
If it's the latter (and I don't see how anyone can skirt the law regardless of representation), I think the rich thing is being blown out of proportion.

Yes to all of these things. It is not so much that they simply bribe people, although some of that does go on, it is that they have high powered connections that they are friends with, or at least has business connections with. So, when your son gets in trouble you call your friend, the mayor, and ask him to have a talk with the DA. That is if you don't already have a golf game this Friday with the DA. Or failing that the judge's wife, or son, or brother-in-law, might be starting a new company and you might just happen to be an important investor in that company. Even if you don't know any of those people, you probably know someone that does that that sort of connection with them. It might be against the law to bribe a judge, but there is nothing illegal about investing in a local business leader's company, and if he just happens to be so impressed with you that he has a talk with the DA about how nice your family is, well who will complain about that?

How does it being due to high priced lawyers change anything? There was once a time where if you were poor and couldn't afford a lawyer period, you were shit out of luck. If the legal system is so complicated and full of loopholes that only a small minority of well-paid lawyers go through the effort of exploiting, it means it's biased in favor of the rich.

It is not so much that the law has a lot of loopholes, it is just there is a big difference between a public defender that got his degree online at The University of Phoenix and has on average 30 minutes to dedicate to your case, and perhaps another hour of a legal aid's time, and a team of 14 top of their class Harvard educated layers with a full battalion of legal aids that will put in a total of 10,000 hours on your case.

 

[Darwin333]

FBI, US Marshalls join in on the hunt.

Speculating he may have left the country. Insane he's not behind bars right now.

They will be caught in short order. Rich people are used to being rich and have no clue how to "run" in todays modern world. Dumb bitch will use a credit card or something somewhere and they will snatch them both. Running over a picture is the worst thing they could have done, their money (and likely his PO, they generally don't send ya to prison for one screw up) would have gotten him a slap on the wrist.

 

[Darwin333]

"because they're rich"...

does that mean they are given special privileges because of status?

or does it mean they are actually paying people off?

or high priced lawyers?

If it's the latter (and I don't see how anyone can skirt the law regardless of representation), I think the rich thing is being blown out of proportion.

A good lawyer knows the law.

A great lawyer knows the judge.

The latter are the really expensive ones and yes high priced attorneys will get you off of quite a lot. Even when they don't get completely off the punishment is a slap on the wrist compared to everyone else. When you can outlawyer the government the prosecutors don't want to look like complete inept idiots. So they usually plea WAY down to avoid a very long and drawn out trial against lawyers that are frankly much better than them.

It's the "Just Us" system here in the US and has been for quite a while.

 

[waggy]

They will be caught in short order. Rich people are used to being rich and have no clue how to "run" in todays modern world. Dumb bitch will use a credit card or something somewhere and they will snatch them both. Running over a picture is the worst thing they could have done, their money (and likely his PO, they generally don't send ya to prison for one screw up) would have gotten him a slap on the wrist.

i tend to agree. I found it really silly that they would run over a picture. I'm sure the Attorney that got him off of 4 murders could get him out of the picture.

I expect them to be caught soon. now he is fucked (and his mom). He will go back to jail for the 4 murders and now running.

he ain't getting out for a long time.

 

[A Casual Fitz]

i tend to agree. I found it really silly that they would run over a picture. I'm sure the Attorney that got him off of 4 murders could get him out of the picture.

I expect them to be caught soon. now he is fucked (and his mom). He will go back to jail for the 4 murders and now running.

he ain't getting out for a long time.

I really hope you're right. The mother should be put in jail too.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Here's my question from the P&N forum

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...apparently-goes-missing/ar-BBnG7zs?li=BBnb7Kz


I'm having trouble understanding this. Seems like the kid only has to speak by phone to the officer once a month? I read another article that him & his Mom rented their place for the summer and they haven't lived there in a couple of months, nobody stops by to check on the kid? Didn't his Father try to leave the country when charged, why does he still have a passport?

 

[A Casual Fitz]

Here's my question from the P&N forum


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man...7zs?li=BBnb7Kz

I'm having trouble understanding this. Seems like the kid only has to speak by phone to the officer once a month? I read another article that him & his Mom rented their place for the summer and they haven't lived there in a couple of months, nobody stops by to check on the kid? Didn't his Father try to leave the country when charged, why does he still have a passport?

Broken link?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Broken link?

Fixed on mobile sigh....

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...apparently-goes-missing/ar-BBnG7zs?li=BBnb7Kz

Fixed on desktop

 

[waggy]

Here's my question from the P&N forum

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...apparently-goes-missing/ar-BBnG7zs?li=BBnb7Kz

I'm having trouble understanding this. Seems like the kid only has to speak by phone to the officer once a month? I read another article that him & his Mom rented their place for the summer and they haven't lived there in a couple of months, nobody stops by to check on the kid? Didn't his Father try to leave the country when charged, why does he still have a passport?

I read that too. I didn't get it. he kills 4 people and nobody checks on him?

though who thought he would run? he got away with murder x4.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

i tend to agree. I found it really silly that they would run over a picture. I'm sure the Attorney that got him off of 4 murders could get him out of the picture.

I expect them to be caught soon. now he is fucked (and his mom). He will go back to jail for the 4 murders and now running.

he ain't getting out for a long time.

Let's hope so. With the dipshit judge who bought that "affluenza" crap, she might give him a hug and a cookie and send him on his way because to her he's the real victim here.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Let's hope so. With the dipshit judge who bought that "affluenza" crap, she might give him a hug and a cookie and send him on his way because to her he's the real victim here.

I doubt it Judges don't like it when people troll them or make them look bad. I'd bet something firm & observable would happen now.

 

[Ns1]

Let's hope so. With the dipshit judge who bought that "affluenza" crap, she might give him a hug and a cookie and send him on his way because to her he's the real victim here.

the affluenza judge supposedly retired.

 

[96Firebird]

What if they didn't run, and instead they were "taken care of" by the victims' family?

PLOT TWIST!

 

[Childs]

haha Never read the details on this story and all this time I thought his defense was influenza.

 

[A Casual Fitz]

haha Never read the details on this story and all this time I thought his defense was influenza.

While that's kind of funny, I'm much too angry about the real case to laugh.

 

[Childs]

While that's kind of funny, I'm much too angry about the real case to laugh.

Influenza actually seemed like a reasonable defense. Sure its a reach, but maybe he was on medication and it amplified the alcohol or something. I could see a high priced lawyer making that work. But then I looked up affluenza, and now I understand why this was a big deal.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

the affluenza judge supposedly retired.

You are correct.


Hey, since she's got nothing to do now, how about we lock her up in the cell reserved for him until they catch the little shit-stain? Then she can spend her time contemplating her criminal lack of common sense.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I really hope you're right. The mother should be put in jail too.

It would seem unlikely that the mother will face any charges at all. The kid is a adult now and so the most they could get her on is aiding and abetting, and she will claim that the fact that she disappeared at the same time as her son was just a coincidence and a good lawyer will get her off.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

the affluenza judge supposedly retired.

Probably had a really nice retirement package.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It would seem unlikely that the mother will face any charges at all. The kid is a adult now and so the most they could get her on is aiding and abetting, and she will claim that the fact that she disappeared at the same time as her son was just a coincidence and a good lawyer will get her off.

Assuming they're found together & she's footing the bill they'd be some consequences

 

[takeru]

found them. apparently they are in mexico.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35192267

A Texas teenager who avoided jail over a fatal drink-driving crash by claiming he suffered from "affluenza" has been detained by police in Mexico.

Ethan Couch, 18, and his mother Tonya were taken into custody in the west coast resort town of Puerto Vallarta.

An arrest warrant was issued earlier this month for Couch after he failed to report to his probation officer.

Couch became known for his unusual defence, which argued his privileged upbringing was to blame for the crash.

Officials in the Tarrant County District Attorney's office in Texas informed local media of the arrest in Puerto Vallarta.

Tarrant County Sheriff Dee Anderson has said he believes Couch and his mother fled in late November after a video surfaced that appears to show the teenager at a party where people were drinking.

If found to be drinking, Couch's probation could be revoked and he could be sentenced to up to 10 years in prison.

 

[sdifox]

Thought running already violates probation?

 

[Kaido]

Tarrant County Sheriff Dee Anderson has said he believes Couch and his mother fled in late November after a video surfaced that appears to show the teenager at a party where people were drinking.

If found to be drinking, Couch's probation could be revoked and he could be sentenced to up to 10 years in prison.

The thing that kills me about human nature is how we just can't stop ourselves. This kid, OJ, serial killers, etc...you have the opportunity to get away scot-free & then screw it all up

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I really hope some poor Mexican family gets the reward money. I'd love it to be a maid at the resort they were found near.

 

[PokerGuy]

The thing that kills me about human nature is how we just can't stop ourselves. This kid, OJ, serial killers, etc...you have the opportunity to get away scot-free & then screw it all up

:whiste: "I'm only human. Of flesh and blood I'm made." </human league, 80's music>



I thought the same thing though, given a golden opportunity at a second chance, he still manages to screw it up again. Johnny, Johnny Manziel, is that you?