14-year-old genius boy commits suicide

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MichaelD

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He was bored with the challenges of life and tired of those around him expecting him to excel at everything.

Though incredibly intelligent, he was still too young to have any life experience to draw from.

His parents should've ensured he had at least SOME childish outlet. Playing cops and robbers, kick the can, stickball, etc. are all normal, important parts of a child's life.

BTW, I find it interesting that some Washington newspaper ran the story and not a Nebraska newspaper. Possibly this kid owned the Nebraska newpaper's owners kid at school? :D
 

RelaxTheMind

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Oct 15, 2002
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: russianpower
Repost and that is tragic.

no, it isn't. where is the tragic flaw? there isn't one. sad != tragic. romeo and juliet is tragic. the crucible is tragic. but this is just sad.

romeo and juliet was a way overrated...
 

EyeMWing

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Jun 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: Heifetz
I think because of his circumstances, he really skipped the maturation process of simply growing up before dealing with the issues that he had to deal with. Sure the kid could be smarter than a 30 year old, but w/o every growing up and living through situations that a 30 year old would face, perhaps it was just too much for him. I'm sure everyone around him also had unreal expectations for him, instead of letting him be a kid.

I'd agree with this. The mind of a 30-year old attached to the emotions and experience of a 14-year old boy... that couldn't have been healthy. From the sound of it, he probably didn't spend much time (if any at all) with others his age.

Neither did I, back then. Mid-teenagers are notoriously unaccepting of anyone or anything better than themselves. By senior year, though, such immaturities are gone, and by and large you're all one giant family united in laziness and hate for freshmen. and humping.
 

CptObvious

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Mar 5, 2004
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14 is a tough age for anyone, let alone a prodigy whose parents and teachers probably have unrealistic expectations for. Life probably made perfect sense to him until his hormones kicked in.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: russianpower
Repost and that is tragic.

no, it isn't. where is the tragic flaw? there isn't one. sad != tragic. romeo and juliet is tragic. the crucible is tragic. but this is just sad.

romeo and juliet was a way overrated...
Romeo and juliet
Are together in eternity...romeo and juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...like romeo and juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...redefine happiness
Another 40,000 coming everyday...we can be like they are
Come on baby...don?t fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don?t fear the reaper
We?ll be able to fly...don?t fear the reaper
Baby I?m your man...


 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: CptObvious
14 is a tough age for anyone, let alone a prodigy whose parents and teachers probably have unrealistic expectations for. Life probably made perfect sense to him until his hormones kicked in.

The hardest thing for an overly-intelligent child to learn is that GIRLS DO NOT MAKE FVCKING SENSE. They are not logical beings. They do not follow patterns that can be easily observed. We, as men, have been studying women for millions of years. Our study of them has yielded many theories, and only one of them has yet held up to the test of experience: Ladder Theory. It is still unproven, however, much like Einstein's relativity. We assume it to be true, it feels right, but there's something unkosher about it that we can't quite put our fingers on.
 

Perhaps he realized the inherent evil and stupidity of the modern world, and just grew frustrated at it all.

But most people I've spoken to realize the futility of suicide as a method of release. Rather, it's better to 'be all you can be' and change the world while you're still here, rather than having people imagining what you *could* have done after your death.
 

her209

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Sounds like the kid was too smart and got bored because everything came so easy to him. Its like playing a game with God Mode enable (for lack of a better comparison).
 

blakeatwork

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Jul 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: russianpower
Repost and that is tragic.

no, it isn't. where is the tragic flaw? there isn't one. sad != tragic. romeo and juliet is tragic. the crucible is tragic. but this is just sad.

romeo and juliet was a way overrated...

Thanks Mr Marlowe... it means alot coming from such an esteemed member of the Artist's Society..
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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One of my mom's best friend's kids tried to kill himself two weeks ago... he is 15. I dunno what makes kids do that, but it is really shocking. He has so much to look forward to.
 

aplefka

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Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: russianpower
Repost and that is tragic.

no, it isn't. where is the tragic flaw? there isn't one. sad != tragic. romeo and juliet is tragic. the crucible is tragic. but this is just sad.

romeo and juliet was a way overrated...
Romeo and juliet
Are together in eternity...romeo and juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...like romeo and juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...redefine happiness
Another 40,000 coming everyday...we can be like they are
Come on baby...don?t fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don?t fear the reaper
We?ll be able to fly...don?t fear the reaper
Baby I?m your man...

Just listened to that about 20 minutes ago.
 

EGGO

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Jul 29, 2004
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I honestly thought this was a parody thread when I read the title. That's really sad. I wonder if he was just overall, lonely.
 

Heifetz

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Originally posted by: EGGO
I honestly thought this was a parody thread when I read the title. That's really sad. I wonder if he was just overall, lonely.

I agree. He probably had a hard time getting along with kids his age, because he was so much smarter than they were, and had different interests. At the same time, he wouldn't have friends that is older than him, just because of the age difference. So it could've been tough for him.
 

thomsbrain

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Dec 4, 2001
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the answer is blindingly obvious. he was never allowed to live his childhood. the people around him made him work work work. even geniuses need to crash hot wheels together for the first decade of their life if they want to turn out sane. (ahem... MICHAEL JACKSON). you throw a child into all these intense adult situations without the coping or social skills they need to survive. all they feel is pressure, and they have no way to deal with it. if they don't shoot themselves in the head, they turn out as loony as wacko jacko.
 

VirtualLarry

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Aug 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nebor
This post is especially poignant today.
Especially after reading the other two threads... definately.

Most of the responses thus far were really good, and very true.

There's one that I didn't see mentiond - perhaps his parents simply didn't love him. Perhaps he didn't feel that anyone loved him. That's the danger of being a parent of a child with talents like that. If you value their achievements, and at the same time fail to both understand, and value the *person* inside, then it does indeed lead to those sorts of feelings. (If this #@$% messageboard software didn't eat my post that I was going to reply to the other thread with, I was in the process of expressing this thought in a lot more personally-related detail in that thread.)

Let this be a warning to those parents that may be exceptionally demanding or demanding of "perfection" from their offspring - take time to value the person inside too, otherwise that person may shrink down to nothing, secretly believing that they aren't accepted by their parents, unless they continue their achievements, or continue to exceed expectations. The danger is that if the parent continually increases the level of expectation, then the child is never able to meet them, and thus continually believes inside that they aren't sucessful, and that their parents still don't accept and/or love them. That's the truely sad part about all of this. To some, exceptionally-high intellence is just as much a "curse" as exceptionally-low - they are outside of the accepted "norms" of the bell curve either way, and thus experience discrimination because of it. But the basic human need to feel loved and acceptance by one's parents and peers, exists regardless of where one falls on the curve. Good parents are able to look past their offspring's exceptional abilities or levels of achivements, just as they are able to look past any major deficiencies as well, to see the person inside, and love them as they are, as their child. But not all parents are able to do this, some are blinded by, and thus preoccupied with, levels of achievement. I have a sad feeling that may be what has happened here. The real reason that most take their lives, is that they feel unloved. It's as simple as that.

Me, I didn't die, per se, I became virtual instead. A protectively-architected mental seperation between the intellectual domain and the personal/emotional one. Hey, WFM.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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to all those who are saying that the answer is obvious, i'm not really seeing where in the article it says that. you guys are just making blind assumptions.
 

Kipper

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Feb 18, 2000
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"Showed no signs of depression" is the key word here. The truly suicidal individuals are the people you suspect have the least problems...compound that with the fact he was a.) male, and b.) a child prodigy, meaning that he probably did not have anybody close to him that he was comfortable speaking to about the problems he actually had.

It's a shame it happened but we can only hope that his pain is gone...:(
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CptObvious
14 is a tough age for anyone, let alone a prodigy whose parents and teachers probably have unrealistic expectations for. Life probably made perfect sense to him until his hormones kicked in.

The hardest thing for an overly-intelligent child to learn is that GIRLS DO NOT MAKE FVCKING SENSE. They are not logical beings. They do not follow patterns that can be easily observed. We, as men, have been studying women for millions of years. Our study of them has yielded many theories, and only one of them has yet held up to the test of experience: Ladder Theory. It is still unproven, however, much like Einstein's relativity. We assume it to be true, it feels right, but there's something unkosher about it that we can't quite put our fingers on.

just because you don't understand girls doesn't mean that nobody else does... just give it a few years.