14-year-old executed convict exonerated posthumously

[tynopik]

And they will wave their magic doctors wand and make it all better?

do you know what palliative means?

The whole point of assisted suicide is for people who can't do it themselves and to make sure that the procedure is as pain free and dignified as possible.

wait, so now AS is only for those who are physically incapable of doing it themselves?

sure . . .

sorry, your 'dignity' isn't worth killing people over

I'm slightly concerned that you seem to think that people who want the option of assisted suicide aren't innocent lives as well.

used as shorthand for people who didn't have a real need to commit suicide but were either bullied into it or not given then the proper care but didn't feel like writing that all out and figured most people could figure that out on their own

We have laws against killing people who don't want to be killed. I'm not sure how you think allowing assisted suicide is going to make a difference.

only because you are willfully ignorant

 

[tynopik]

suicide has a high 'barrier of entry' and a good thing too

reducing the barrier to such a permanent decision can only be a bad thing

You keep pointing to the worst, most heartbreaking cases, but guess what? Suicide is still there if they believe strongly enough.

If you aren't willing to kill yourself, then maybe you shouldn't

Far more worrying is the how the lowered barrier will be abused. It's a heck of a lot easier to convince mom to go with you to the 'clinic' than convince her to put a gun to her head and pull the trigger.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Can't have capital punishment because there might be one innocent put to death.

therefore

Can't have assisted suicide because might be one unwilling person pushed into a decision or one ill person that needed treatment instead of death.

amirite?

I don't think the two are all that comparable.

With a death sentence, an innocent person who doesn't want to die for a crime he or she didn't commit may be executed and found to in fact be not guilty of the crime at some point after the punishment is carried out. The death was forced upon that person against their will, and they did nothing to deserve the punishment, and it cannot be undone now.

With suicide, I don't need government permission. If I was diagnosed with say something like ALS today, despite the fact that assisted suicide is not legal where I live, I would have no problem taking a bottle of sleeping pills and pain meds and washing it down with a long island iced tea when I felt the time has come. If the day after I died a cure was found, it was still my decision and whether or not a doctor was willing to prescribe me the drugs for the suicide or not and be there to declare me dead makes no difference.

Or in other words, keeping assisted suicide illegal won't stop suicides. But keeping capital punishment will end with at least some innocent people being put to death.