$13,000 made during year, $9k tax return..

[chucky2]

Since you have worked with large datasets and had to streamline informa tion in a manner it can be measured and evlauated you should understand that a single goverment system that provides that ability along with standards is superior to a system of thousands of non profits with all manners of policy/procudure systems would be much harder to maintain and control, it would lead to more waste as you would be adding componets and compelxity where is doesnt currently exist.

then talk about fraud, lets introduce other ways to game the system in additon to what we have now. If your argument is just get rid of welfare and let charity take over, you have a lot more faith than I do.

There's really only one problem with this: When that Gov has zero accountability to live within its means monetarily, it has zero incentive to cost itself votes by making sure the system its designed for itself is working properly (and by properly, I mean Real properly, not Fd up Liberal Properly).

The Fed needs to get out of the welfare market altogether. No reimbursing the States. The States need to setup their own system, because, the States cannot actually print money. The States will at some point have to live within their means. The only thing I want the Fed underwriting is abortion and sterilization. Those are free, no questions asked.

Chuck

 

[nehalem256]

I have mixed feelings about this subject. However Married people get some of the same benefits if they have 2-4 children over time. I think it is better to have a 2 parent family, due to better security with 2 jobs. It seems like the government is purposely steering people toward these single parent families because they can get more money from the government. Broken families are created by our government. This is the liberal caring utopia created by our government. Like it or hate it; this is reality.

that's assuming that both parents in a two parent family are able to work. what if only one is able to because of childcare, disability, low job market or whatever?

Even assuming only 1 parent is able to work you are much better off. It allows one parent to focus on raising the children while the other works. I mean who is going to provide care for the children while a single parent is at work?

And in fact disability and low job market are 2 arguments in favor of having 2 parents. As it makes it much more likely that at least one parent will not be laid off or disabled.

 

[exdeath]

No what you said is other people freeload so why should you work.

Keep your 2k I make more than that in a week.

And yet only 2 low capacity $120 SSDs....

 

[soulcougher73]

Sounds like a shitty situation. That is not a lot of money. Id rather have my job than that situation.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I care about people in my own community/state/country first and foremost.

Its not a guilt trip rather the reality of your comments, your a miserable fuck, its plain to see. dont blame me that your an insufferable prick that makes so little you care about keeping %5 of your tax money at the sake of starving the children of your countrymen.

Bawww, how cute - he likes to think he contributes :awe: . A little exposure to the real world that you don't give a flying fuck about - but like to think you do. Out of sight out of mind is hilarious when you're advocating how HARD you work and don't mind paying taxes for abusive people, you like to cherish yourself as someone that is helping out :awe:

Once again, what the fuck are YOU doing about it? I see infomercials for animals, starving Africans, and programs for retarded chimps like you. Why aren't you contributing just $30 a month for each? Huh? That is the reality of YOUR comments. You like to think you make a difference, all you're doing is contributing to the problems. You think you care about the world in general? Yet you do jack fucking shit other than catch the latest episode of Biggest Loser.


Also, my income is above the average american, I don't think I'm having any money woes broceritops.

 

[nehalem256]

Sounds like a shitty situation. That is not a lot of money. Id rather have my job than that situation.

This is a stupid and destructive attitude. People continually CHOOSE shitty situations.

If someone CHOOSES to play "Russian Roulette" where 5/6 chambers are loaded I am not going to feel sorry for them.

 

[crosshairs]

No what you said is other people freeload so why should you work.

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Yes, that's exactly what I said, and your response was that people like me are the problem.....its not the people leeching off the system, its the people who complain about it... I don't even know how to respond to that .

 

[SpatiallyAware]

LOL at kids starving in the USA.

We have the fattest poor people of anywhere in the world. Oh, wait, that's my fault too since I haven't given the government enough money to teach them how to cook rice and chicken, thus they have to live off of mcdonalds fries and candy bars.

We have created a society where certain segments of society make more money by leeching off of society than actually working.

Single mothers are one of the biggest problems in this country.

 

[bignateyk]

We made 130K and only got a 6K refund 🙁

 

[nehalem256]

Yes, that's exactly what I said, and your response was that people like me are the problem.....its not the people leeching off the system, its the people who complain about it... I don't even know how to respond to that .

That is exactly how liberals think.

They are the people who if a woman CHOOSES to have a child she cannot feed everyone except the woman is to blame if the child starves.

And mind you they 100% support whatever CHOICE she makes.

In fact they will say that women should be trusted to make the right choice for their family. Which of course makes you wonder why they keep claiming children will starve if we cut welfare programs.

It seems pretty clear to me that liberal social programs are not for the benefit of the child, but to support women's choices.

 

[Engineer]

Regardless of the $5,800, I still call BS on a $9,000 refund until someone shows how this is possible.

 

[highland145]

http://taxes.about.com/od/deductionscredits/qt/childtaxcredit.htm

Refundable Portion of the Child Tax Credit

A person's federal tax liability might be reduced to zero through the use of the child tax credit along with other tax credits. Any child tax credits in excess of a person's tax liability can potentially be refunded. This is called the Additional Child Tax Credit. The refundable portion of the has two different methods of calculation depending on the number of children the taxpayer is claiming. For taxpayers with one or two children, the refundable portion of the child tax credit is the smaller of the unused portion of the child tax credit or fifteen percent of the person's earned income over $3,000.
For taxpayers with three or more children, the refundable portion of the child tax credit is the smaller the following two amounts:

1. the unused portion of the child tax credit, or
2. The larger of either
   • 15% of a person's earned income over $3,000, or
   • The sum of Social Security and Medicare taxes paid minus the earned income credit

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Regardless of the $5,800, I still call BS on a $9,000 refund until someone shows how this is possible.

Yep. I take time out of my day to just make up shit cause I have nothing else to do. You caught me.

 

[lotus503]

Yes, that's exactly what I said, and your response was that people like me are the problem.....its not the people leeching off the system, its the people who complain about it... I don't even know how to respond to that .

You didn't just complain about it. You express a lack of personal motivation based on someone else getting tax dollars.

Why should you work when others don't work? Because your tax dollars support welfare queens just give up and become one yourself eh? That will show em.

 

[lotus503]

There's really only one problem with this: When that Gov has zero accountability to live within its means monetarily, it has zero incentive to cost itself votes by making sure the system its designed for itself is working properly (and by properly, I mean Real properly, not Fd up Liberal Properly).

The Fed needs to get out of the welfare market altogether. No reimbursing the States. The States need to setup their own system, because, the States cannot actually print money. The States will at some point have to live within their means. The only thing I want the Fed underwriting is abortion and sterilization. Those are free, no questions asked.

Chuck

I'd be open to state systems, therefore paying less fed and more state tax.

If you simply want it out of the hands of the fed I'm sure there are ways to bring it to the states.

I think state management is better than private not for profit.

 

[Ausm]

Regardless of the $5,800, I still call BS on a $9,000 refund until someone shows how this is possible.

Yeah, I have to recalibrate my BS meter myself because if this was true who would work?

Especially this guy!

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30561117

 

[lotus503]

The problem is what qualifies as "abuse".

If a woman CHOOSES to have children with multiple incarcerated felons it seems to me that she is abusing society.

I agree the issue is what do you do about it? Without harming the child?

 

[lotus503]

Bawww, how cute - he likes to think he contributes :awe: . A little exposure to the real world that you don't give a flying fuck about - but like to think you do. Out of sight out of mind is hilarious when you're advocating how HARD you work and don't mind paying taxes for abusive people, you like to cherish yourself as someone that is helping out :awe:

Once again, what the fuck are YOU doing about it? I see infomercials for animals, starving Africans, and programs for retarded chimps like you. Why aren't you contributing just $30 a month for each? Huh? That is the reality of YOUR comments. You like to think you make a difference, all you're doing is contributing to the problems. You think you care about the world in general? Yet you do jack fucking shit other than catch the latest episode of Biggest Loser.


Also, my income is above the average american, I don't think I'm having any money woes broceritops.

You make no fucking sense at all, we discuss welfare queens you talk about starving kids in Africa.

I live in a bubble because I don't want American children starving?

No your trying to bolster your position of not giving a shit about kids in America starving by stating African children starve.

You make zero fucking sense, probably because your simply a miserable fuck finding it hard to support your survival of the fittest utopia.

 

[Engineer]

http://taxes.about.com/od/deductionscredits/qt/childtaxcredit.htm

Refundable Portion of the Child Tax Credit

A person's federal tax liability might be reduced to zero through the use of the child tax credit along with other tax credits. Any child tax credits in excess of a person's tax liability can potentially be refunded. This is called the Additional Child Tax Credit. The refundable portion of the has two different methods of calculation depending on the number of children the taxpayer is claiming. For taxpayers with one or two children, the refundable portion of the child tax credit is the smaller of the unused portion of the child tax credit or fifteen percent of the person's earned income over $3,000.
For taxpayers with three or more children, the refundable portion of the child tax credit is the smaller the following two amounts:

1. the unused portion of the child tax credit, or
2. The larger of either
   • 15% of a person's earned income over $3,000, or
   • The sum of Social Security and Medicare taxes paid minus the earned income credit

Thanks for that. I stand corrected and no longer call BS to the OP...but I do call BS to these large tax credits.

 

[Engineer]

Yep. I take time out of my day to just make up shit cause I have nothing else to do. You caught me.

I didn't catch you in anything. I called BS until it was shown it could be done, and now I retract the BS statement. The document that I read sounded like you could not get a refund from the credit. The article posted right above your post shows that it can indeed happen. I now call BS on the fact that you can get $9,000 back (or more) than you paid in. Now I wonder if that person can also get food stamps, vouchers for clothing, rent, etc. because of low income?

 

[highland145]

Thanks for that. I stand corrected and no longer call BS to the OP...but I do call BS to these large tax credits.

But your politicians voted them in so they must be O.K.


:whiste:

 

[highland145]

I didn't catch you in anything. I called BS until it was shown it could be done, and now I retract the BS statement. The document that I read sounded like you could not get a refund from the credit. The article posted right above your post shows that it can indeed happen. I now call BS on the fact that you can get $9,000 back (or more) than you paid in. Now I wonder if that person can also get food stamps, vouchers for clothing, rent, etc. because of low income?

To quote one of the 535 stooges, "Soitenly."

 

[nehalem256]

I agree the issue is what do you do about it? Without harming the child?

Stick the mother in prison and give the infant to a couple that can feed it.

It seems to me that letting women who breed with thugs raise children is harming the child.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I didn't catch you in anything. I called BS until it was shown it could be done, and now I retract the BS statement. The document that I read sounded like you could not get a refund from the credit. The article posted right above your post shows that it can indeed happen. I now call BS on the fact that you can get $9,000 back (or more) than you paid in. Now I wonder if that person can also get food stamps, vouchers for clothing, rent, etc. because of low income?

Food stamps? Yes because they do. I don't know about the rest of it.

 

[WackyDan]

We made 130K and only got a 6K refund 🙁

Then you are doing it wrong. At that income it was your money to begin with. Adjust your withholding so that you are either getting hardly anything back, or are owing a small amount. It isn't rocket science, though yes, you may have to adjust it year to year.