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[EXman]

Who actually said they think partial birth abortion is hunky dory? No one.

Looks like 16 votes for "i support all of roe v. wade and think a woman has a right to abortion in 3rd trimester for whatever reason" they want this to happen to a kid. It might be semantics but aint your brains getting sucked out! that is the majority here for whatever reason P & N never changes Blind Heartless Libs.

 

[Acanthus]

I voted for the 2nd option, while i am pro choice. I do not agree with 3rd trimester abortions.

As for the partial birth abortion chart, cry more, really.

 

[EXman]

while i am pro choice. I do not agree with 3rd trimester abortions.

oxymoron or just sorta pro abortion? Keep your tissue and use it on your butt

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: EXman

Who actually said they think partial birth abortion is hunky dory? No one.

Looks like 16 votes for "i support all of roe v. wade and think a woman has a right to abortion in 3rd trimester for whatever reason" they want this to happen to a kid. It might be semantics but aint your brains getting sucked out! that is the majority here for whatever reason P & N never changes Blind Heartless Libs.

Cry me a river . . . build a bridge . . . get over it.

 

[EXman]

ahh F off putz

 

[EXman]

ahh F off putz looks better with a wink!

I guess it was better the second time

I'm done guys I'm gonna Let DM find you all a Hot deal on a Brain sucker! :disgust::evil:

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: EXman
ahh F off putz looks better with a wink!

I guess it was better the second time

I'm done guys I'm gonna Let DM find you all a Hot deal on a Brain sucker! :disgust::evil:

Yeah, real nice. If I find a brain sucker, I'll be sure to try it out on you first. Although, I'm sure it'll choke on all of the hot air and dead brain cell dust located inside your cranial cavity.

Oh, almost forgot:

 

[Siddhartha]

If I were a woman, I would want to be able to choose when I had children.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: conjur
Abortion is such a selfish act. If, by the third trimester, a woman still wants to abort the baby, I say she should be sterilized following the abortion procedure.

Why should she be punished for correcting a mistake?

Let's be honest here. Women have abortions because they don't want the baby. Its that simple and I think a lot right-to-lifers don't recognize that. Personally, I think abortions are a sign of a failure of personal responsibility and are morally reprehensible. But I don't think society should force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want. Bringing an unwanted baby into this world is far worse than aborting it in the womb. Just my humble opinion.

If she didn't want the baby, she had almost 6 other months in which to abort, why should she be allowed a third trimester abortion, where the baby might actually be able to survive?
I think women should be allowed to have abortions, up to a point. If they don't want the baby, they have plenty of chance to abort, and they should learn about contraception anyway (people who are willing to have abortions will (should) be willing to use contraceptives).
If a baby is a serious health risk to the mother, later abortions should be permissable (ie: it might kill the mother to have the baby), or in some circumstances, if the baby is deformed/disabled/seriously hindered in some way then it may also be permissable to have a late abortion (depending on when the condition can be picked up).

If a mother doesn't want the baby, and it is late in the gestation period, then she should be offered support, like ideas for adoption or other options available.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: EXman

third trimester is the last 3 months of pregnancy

It is where many premature babies that are born are fine as my wife was almost 2 full months early.

Women's choice is such a crock of sh!t why don't you abort this turd of a thread.

why don't you abort crapping in my thread?

 

[DoubleL]

When I see post on abortions I remember a saying on a check I saw one time, A guy looked into the sky and said God if you are so great why haven't you sent us a cure for aids, Cancer and heart problems, A big voice came down saying I did and you aborted them

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
If I were a woman, I would want to be able to choose when I had children.

Silly rabbit all women have that ability already. It's called being responsible. They can use a reliable method of birth control or they can choose to abstain until they are ready to have children. I am mystified that you didn't know that.

 

[ElFenix]

anyway, apart from the thread crapping and attempts to turn this into a flame fest by certain members, this poll has very interesting results. i'll wait a while, get some more votes, before revealing what is so interesting.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot

Originally posted by: Jadow
I think government needs to stay the hell out of a womans right to choose what to do with her body

yeah, but its not her body. What about the baby's right to live? Technically, a doctor could take his dagger and shove it up there and kill the baby without actually, technically making any physical contact with the woman's body.

I never said it was an easy decision, just not the governments decision. You may feel different if it was you sacrificing the life of your soulmate for a baby you might have to give up for adoption or a baby that may not live after leaving the birth canal anyways. These are tough decesions, and involve not you or I or anyone else, but so damn many people want to pile on and make that decision for that couple......well, in my book, they should leave well enough alone. Its not our business.

Does that spell it out for you?

For crying out loud! The vast majority of abortions of any kind have nothing whatsoever to do any of that. The vast majority of abortions are nothing more than last ditch birth control for convenience and have nothing to do with "

sacrificing the life of your soulmate for a baby you might have to give up for adoption or a baby that may not live after leaving the birth canal anyways. ".

You are so disingenous.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: conjur
Because someone incapable of using protection and claiming to be "not ready for a baby" doesn't deserve one...ever, imo.

Is that Draconian, sure, but I'm not for outlawing abortion. That will only bring back back-alley abortions and create a health hazard to the woman and the fetus.

Of course, thinking like that completely baffles and infuriates the right-wing talk show hosts!

Yeah, thats fairly close to my opinion on the matter as well. Although I'm not sure about the sterilizing part! (I think you were just expressing your anger over people using it as birth control essentially, which infuriates me as well.)

When I was younger, I took a more simplistic view of it, simply believing it should be outlawed. But there's really to many levels to it to out and out ban it. (examples being rape, health risks to the mother, serious birth defects maybe, etc)

I say, if you're having sex, be prepared to have a child. You can always put them up for adoption if you can't take care of them.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: EXman

third trimester is the last 3 months of pregnancy

It is where many premature babies that are born are fine as my wife was almost 2 full months early.

Women's choice is such a crock of sh!t why don't you abort this turd of a thread.

why don't you abort crapping in my thread?

Seriously, despite this being a hot and controversial issue, everyone here but you has been pretty civil about it. Stop being a a$$.

 

[Insane3D]

Hmmm....only a few people did well on this poll. It is worded pretty tricky ElFenix.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
If I were a woman, I would want to be able to choose when I had children.

If I were a woman and didn't want children, I wouldn't get knocked up.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Hmmm....only a few people did well on this poll. It is worded pretty tricky ElFenix.

Insane gets a :cookie; and :milk; for figuring out this is more a test than a poll

 

[0roo0roo]

science only says that a fetus is a fetus, that a fertilized egg is just that, not that either is somehow a human being. that is a philisophical question.

80% of fertilized eggs end up being flushed out within a month. all i can say is thats a whole lotta wasted souls if attached at conception.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
80% of fertilized eggs end up being flushed out within a month. all i can say is thats a whole lotta wasted souls if attached at conception.

And? Old people die everyday, its still illegal to kill them...even if they were probably going to croak tomorrow. (I'm just sort of being devil's advocate here.)

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: conjur
Abortion is such a selfish act. If, by the third trimester, a woman still wants to abort the baby, I say she should be sterilized following the abortion procedure.

Why should she be punished for correcting a mistake?

Let's be honest here. Women have abortions because they don't want the baby. Its that simple and I think a lot right-to-lifers don't recognize that. Personally, I think abortions are a sign of a failure of personal responsibility and are morally reprehensible. But I don't think society should force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want. Bringing an unwanted baby into this world is far worse than aborting it in the womb. Just my humble opinion.

If she didn't want the baby, she had almost 6 other months in which to abort, why should she be allowed a third trimester abortion, where the baby might actually be able to survive?
I think women should be allowed to have abortions, up to a point. If they don't want the baby, they have plenty of chance to abort, and they should learn about contraception anyway (people who are willing to have abortions will (should) be willing to use contraceptives).
If a baby is a serious health risk to the mother, later abortions should be permissable (ie: it might kill the mother to have the baby), or in some circumstances, if the baby is deformed/disabled/seriously hindered in some way then it may also be permissable to have a late abortion (depending on when the condition can be picked up).

If a mother doesn't want the baby, and it is late in the gestation period, then she should be offered support, like ideas for adoption or other options available.

Exactly what i was saying, and some tool up there didnt seem to get it

 

[drewshin]

abortion within the first trimester is fine with me, if you cant decide in that amount of time if you want the baby or not, i think you lose the right to abort it.
i say if the baby is feasible? (forgot what the exact word is), then it should be illegal to abort it, but if it's still a bunch of cells or an embryo then someone should
be able to do so.

 

[dirtboy]

If someone wants to abort a child, as far as I'm concerned that's their business and not mine. Do as they please.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

i support all of roe v. wade and think a woman has a right to abortion in 3rd trimester for whatever reason

this is an oxymoron of a view, as RvW said the state has the right to restrict in the 3rd.

If someone wants to abort a child, as far as I'm concerned that's their business and not mine. Do as they please.

if someone wants to end the life of their infant, is that also not your business? draw the line and support why the line should exist.

The essential question of abortion is that of person hood. It can't logical be argued that a unique human isn't living and growing inside of a woman when it is 'aborted'; it can be argued that this unique human isn't a 'person';

The history of mankind is full of times humans who gain the right of 'person hood' benefit from the death of other humans who are 'non persons', unfortunately it seems to me that with women gaining person hood in American society they have over steeped their bounds in declaring as non-persons other humans.