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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
So let me get this straight....

You were drunk. A cop spotted you. Gave you a citation for being drunk. And you're pissed off. What kind of Bass-Ackwards logic are you using?
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thank you. I was just biting my tongue
and PS. Just because YOU dont think you look drunk, doesn't mean you wouldnt to other people.
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You both are idiots. In this 'free' country, you shouldn't be harassed by a cop not doing his job. Yes, he is not doing his job if he is harassing random people when they leave a club.

BTW, fight the charges. Except, edit your message to say you didn't drink anything just in case some stupid AT'er decides it's within his bounds to send a printout to the cops. You harmed no one. The cop was just harassing you seeing you with 2 girls. The cop has no proof.
 
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Whoa you guys had alot to say. Yeah yeah you guys are right and maybe I was still pissed off when I typed the topic up. I was only pissed off because then he tried to get smart and I made him feel stupid. He called for backup....4 cops showed up.

example: cop: You reside at Jefferson Street?(just an example)
Me: No, I've never lived there.
cop(raising his voice): Your license says you live there.
Me(still calm): It doesn't, read it again
cop(pissed off and being a smartass):uh uh uh(i dont know how to read because i'm an idiot) oh um yeah Jay Street.


Thats how he was. I haven't mentioned many things of that nature that he was doing/has done.

Yeah I guess I made a mistake......Thanks for being harsh. For some of you, yeah you can talk all you want hiding behind your monitor and keyboard. Most people here probably have no social life and like to make love to their computers.
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You shouldn't have givin him your ID. Your not required to.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
So let me get this straight....

You were drunk. A cop spotted you. Gave you a citation for being drunk. And you're pissed off. What kind of Bass-Ackwards logic are you using?
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thank you. I was just biting my tongue
and PS. Just because YOU dont think you look drunk, doesn't mean you wouldnt to other people.
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You both are idiots. In this 'free' country, you shouldn't be harassed by a cop not doing his job. Yes, he is not doing his job if he is harassing random people when they leave a club.

BTW, fight the charges. Except, edit your message to say you didn't drink anything just in case some stupid AT'er decides it's within his bounds to send a printout to the cops. You harmed no one. The cop was just harassing you seeing you with 2 girls. The cop has no proof.
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Ahh forget it.. you arent worthy of my time 🙂
 
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Yeah I guess I made a mistake......Thanks for being harsh. For some of you, yeah you can talk all you want hiding behind your monitor and keyboard. Most people here probably have no social life and like to make love to their computers.
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Once again, you are an idiot.

 
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Whoa you guys had alot to say. Yeah yeah you guys are right and maybe I was still pissed off when I typed the topic up. I was only pissed off because then he tried to get smart and I made him feel stupid. He called for backup....4 cops showed up.

example: cop: You reside at Jefferson Street?(just an example)
Me: No, I've never lived there.
cop(raising his voice): Your license says you live there.
Me(still calm): It doesn't, read it again
cop(pissed off and being a smartass):uh uh uh(i dont know how to read because i'm an idiot) oh um yeah Jay Street.


Thats how he was. I haven't mentioned many things of that nature that he was doing/has done.

Yeah I guess I made a mistake......Thanks for being harsh. For some of you, yeah you can talk all you want hiding behind your monitor and keyboard. Most people here probably have no social life and like to make love to their computers.
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You shouldn't have givin him your ID. Your not required to.
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You are required to show id to a law enforcement officer.
 
Originally posted by: BustaBust


Yeah I guess I made a mistake......Thanks for being harsh. For some of you, yeah you can talk all you want hiding behind your monitor and keyboard. Most people here probably have no social life and like to make love to their computers.
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Your computer is a slut, she cheats on you...with ME. muahahahahahahhaahah
 
Originally posted by: BustaBust
I left a club drunk (Im under 21) and these 2 girls invited me to their dorm and ______ (fill in the blank). So then I left and then walked out onto the sidewalk and this cop came up. First of all he thought I was drunk, but I answered all of his questions and didn't have slurred speech or anything. He then went on to be a smart ass so I did it back and made him feel like an idiot. He told me to use my eyes to follow his pen. I did it perfectly and he wrote down that I had HGN, whatever the hell that is, and he said he smelled alcohol on me. He asked me how much I had to drink and I told him that I didn't have any. I told him I was in the club and somebody spilled drinks on my shirt. He then asked why my eyes were glassy and I said I where contacts and the smoke from the club made them watery and then stepping outside into the wind also did that. He didn't have anything to say. They didn't arrest me or take me to go get a breathylizer test taken. He gave me a citation for underaged consumption. Not one for Public Intoxication or anything else. How does the cop's story hold up in court?? No breathylizer.....No BAC level can be proven

What is there to do?
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Despite your own assurance of innocence, it is fairly easy for the police officer to get probable cause to cite you without a breathalizer test, with signs such as slurred speech, bloodshot eyes, alcohol on your breath, and so forth.

Ack, probable, not probably.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: BustaBust
I left a club drunk (Im under 21) and these 2 girls invited me to their dorm and ______ (fill in the blank). So then I left and then walked out onto the sidewalk and this cop came up. First of all he thought I was drunk, but I answered all of his questions and didn't have slurred speech or anything. He then went on to be a smart ass so I did it back and made him feel like an idiot. He told me to use my eyes to follow his pen. I did it perfectly and he wrote down that I had HGN, whatever the hell that is, and he said he smelled alcohol on me. He asked me how much I had to drink and I told him that I didn't have any. I told him I was in the club and somebody spilled drinks on my shirt. He then asked why my eyes were glassy and I said I where contacts and the smoke from the club made them watery and then stepping outside into the wind also did that. He didn't have anything to say. They didn't arrest me or take me to go get a breathylizer test taken. He gave me a citation for underaged consumption. Not one for Public Intoxication or anything else. How does the cop's story hold up in court?? No breathylizer.....No BAC level can be proven

What is there to do?
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Despite your own assurance of innocence, it is fairly easy for the police officer to get probably cause to cite you without a breathalizer test, with signs such as slurred speech, bloodshot eyes, alcohol on your breath, and so forth.
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HGN was enough I believe.
 
Originally posted by: PipBoy
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Whoa you guys had alot to say. Yeah yeah you guys are right and maybe I was still pissed off when I typed the topic up. I was only pissed off because then he tried to get smart and I made him feel stupid. He called for backup....4 cops showed up.

example: cop: You reside at Jefferson Street?(just an example)
Me: No, I've never lived there.
cop(raising his voice): Your license says you live there.
Me(still calm): It doesn't, read it again
cop(pissed off and being a smartass):uh uh uh(i dont know how to read because i'm an idiot) oh um yeah Jay Street.


Thats how he was. I haven't mentioned many things of that nature that he was doing/has done.

Yeah I guess I made a mistake......Thanks for being harsh. For some of you, yeah you can talk all you want hiding behind your monitor and keyboard. Most people here probably have no social life and like to make love to their computers.
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You shouldn't have givin him your ID. Your not required to.
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You are required to show id to a law enforcement officer.
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Only while driving. Otherwise you are not required to have an ID.
 
Originally posted by: minendo
You are an idiot. Pay the damn fines, take the classes, and accept the probation.
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Morons should be seen and not heard. The only mistake he made was not knowing his rights and when to ignore a cop and keep walking. I've never had a problem that way 🙂 :beer:

I also only travel while intoxicated only when necessary, and even then, bike is prefrable. Driving is illegal and walking gives a cop too much reason to stop you. Nobody expects a drunk biker 😀
 
Originally posted by: BustaBust
Whoa you guys had alot to say. Yeah yeah you guys are right and maybe I was still pissed off when I typed the topic up. I was only pissed off because then he tried to get smart and I made him feel stupid. He called for backup....4 cops showed up.

example: cop: You reside at Jefferson Street?(just an example)
Me: No, I've never lived there.
cop(raising his voice): Your license says you live there.
Me(still calm): It doesn't, read it again
cop(pissed off and being a smartass):uh uh uh(i dont know how to read because i'm an idiot) oh um yeah Jay Street.


Thats how he was. I haven't mentioned many things of that nature that he was doing/has done.

Yeah I guess I made a mistake......Thanks for being harsh. For some of you, yeah you can talk all you want hiding behind your monitor and keyboard. Most people here probably have no social life and like to make love to their computers.
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Wow, you actually showed some maturity until that last paragraph. I find it kind of funny how many people think they're the only "normal" person out of a forum full of nerds.
 
Originally posted by: Spencer278

Only while driving. Otherwise you are not required to have an ID.
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If the police officer has reason to ask you to identify yourself, you are required to provide your name, place of residence and other pertinent questions.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Spencer278

Only while driving. Otherwise you are not required to have an ID.
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If the police officer has reason to ask you to identify yourself, you are required to provide your name, place of residence and other pertinent questions.
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I call BS on at least the "pertinent questions" part. 5th amendmant. No cop gets answers from me outside of my car if I'm legitmatley minding my own business.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Spencer278

Only while driving. Otherwise you are not required to have an ID.
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If the police officer has reason to ask you to identify yourself, you are required to provide your name, place of residence and other pertinent questions.
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That is not precisiely true. You don't have to say or otherwise volunteer anything, but the officer can generally hang onto you until he or she has determined your identity if they are so inclined.


 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Spencer278

Only while driving. Otherwise you are not required to have an ID.
Click to expand...

If the police officer has reason to ask you to identify yourself, you are required to provide your name, place of residence and other pertinent questions.
Click to expand...

That is not precisiely true. You don't have to say or otherwise volunteer anything, but the officer can generally hang onto you until he or she has determined your identity if they are so inclined.
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There ya go.
 
Oh, to everybody who said to the OP was stupid that not admiting to drinking you have no idea what you are talking about. Sure, if the police officer wants to be nice he might let you off, but if he wants to be an ass you have just admited to whatever crime you did to an officer of the law which means that if something ever goes to court you are screwed.
 
Oh, as to the original poster. You demonstrated in your 1st post that you are a liar and that you were intoxicated at the time, so anything you say afterwards has precisely zero credibility.

BTW: The pen thing is used to determine Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus, and Lack of Smooth Pursuit. Both are readily researchable on Google.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
So let me get this straight....

You were drunk. A cop spotted you. Gave you a citation for being drunk. And you're pissed off. What kind of Bass-Ackwards logic are you using?
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thank you. I was just biting my tongue
and PS. Just because YOU dont think you look drunk, doesn't mean you wouldnt to other people.
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You both are idiots. In this 'free' country, you shouldn't be harassed by a cop not doing his job. Yes, he is not doing his job if he is harassing random people when they leave a club.

BTW, fight the charges. Except, edit your message to say you didn't drink anything just in case some stupid AT'er decides it's within his bounds to send a printout to the cops. You harmed no one. The cop was just harassing you seeing you with 2 girls. The cop has no proof.
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My point is, he drank underage. He got a citation for drinking underage which is WHAT HE WAS DOING.... He deserved the citation. Maybe it wasnt the best way for the cop to give him one, but he still deserved it.
 
Originally posted by: BustaBust
I left a club drunk (Im under 21)

So you admit to breaking the law...

and these 2 girls invited me to their dorm and ______ (fill in the blank).

Uh hu... ok
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So then I left and then walked out onto the sidewalk and this cop came up. First of all he thought I was drunk,

Which you were...

but I answered all of his questions and didn't have slurred speech or anything.

I'll bet you didn't
rolleye.gif


He then went on to be a smart ass so I did it back and made him feel like an idiot.

I'll bet you did. Looks like you're the one who got the ticket... who's the idiot?

He told me to use my eyes to follow his pen. I did it perfectly and he wrote down that I had HGN, whatever the hell that is,

HGN is Horizontal Gaze Nystagnus. It is an indicator of alcohol in one's system by observing the eyes jittering horizontally as they look to the sides. More jitter = more alcohol. Vertical GN is used to observe the presence of other drugs in your system. Trained experts can tell you what kind/how much of a drug is in your system to a reasonably accurate estimate based on this test alone. You got owned.

and he said he smelled alcohol on me.

Because you were drinking

He asked me how much I had to drink and I told him that I didn't have any. I told him I was in the club and somebody spilled drinks on my shirt.

Do you honestly think this excuse works? How many times do you think people try to say that? Heads up, genious. Alcohol on the breath and spilt alcohol smell different. The alcohol smell from drinking is caused by a release of carbon dioxide when your body begins breaking down the alcohol in your blood. I'm sure it was very noticeable when you were talking to him.

Secondly, you admitted to being in the club. He knew you were underage. Why would you have snuck into the club and not have had a drink? You should think of this stuff before you lie to a cop.

He then asked why my eyes were glassy and I said I where contacts and the smoke from the club made them watery and then stepping outside into the wind also did that.

Yet another highly believable excuse.

He didn't have anything to say.

Because he didn't want to argue with a drunk kid.

They didn't arrest me or take me to go get a breathylizer test taken. He gave me a citation for underaged consumption. Not one for Public Intoxication or anything else.

PI is for people legally of age to drink. UC is for people who aren't.

How does the cop's story hold up in court?? No breathylizer.....No BAC level can be proven

You don't need to prove BAC to cite for underage consumption. A BAC cannot be proven in your case, yes, but there were more than enough signs of alcohol consumption.

What is there to do?

Stop bitching
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