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120Hz and 3D.. just a bunch of BS?

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Played a large amount of Batman Arkham City last night in 3D, from about 8pm until I realised it was 2am and had to give it up because of work the next day. Honestly the 3D vision 2 glasses and monitor performed admirably I had no eyestrain even after 6 hours of continuous use and the battery on the glasses didn't run out.

Extremely awesome game very well tailored for 3D, zipping around the city at high speed and fighting as catwoman getting up close slow motion shots of her delicious body bringing the pain on goons is well worth it.

I know this is shallow, but 3D does wonders for cleavage in skimpy catsuits, hah 😀
 
Grooveriding said:
While I agree 3D is generally pretty crappy and a gimmick, 120hz is a valuable feature. I certainly can see the fluidity in motion improvements with 120hz.

The problem with 120hz is you can't get it on a quality monitor yet. It's only available on TN panels currently and only available for 1920x1080 resolution AFAIK.

Once there is a 2560x1600 120hz IPS monitor for a price that I couldn't get a used car for I am on board with 120hz really fast. $2000 would be reasonable I think for such a beauty.
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I'm surprised after four pages I'm going to have to be the first person who mentions this.

120hz IPS monitors do exist now.

You can only import them from South Korea and to get them to work that way you need a discrete video card to overclock them. I'm not really proficient on the technical details but you have to go to other forums to find out how you do this.

These monitors from South Korea were discovered back in February on eBay but after a month and half they were sold out. The monitors were a limited run model because they had hardware specs that weren't compliant with manufacturing standards which is why they were being off loaded. Because of the relative success of how fast those monitors sold a handful of sellers are stepping up but you have to actually know who to buy from.

Two sellers are mentioned in a article and comment discussion on Techreport and the most prominent seller I've been following, for when I make my own purchase in the future, runs a website called 120hz.net.
 
120Hz is the future, and that future is close at hand.

3D is the future, but not with shutter glasses. The current round of 3D monitors are complete fail.

Multi-monitor will probably always be a niche, but I'd rather have eyefinity than the previous two features. When games have proper multi-monitor support it adds so much. Devs are starting to get better about it, and the multi-monitor community is getting more active in fixing new titles to work properly when devs drop the ball.
 
What ever the future is or not; it's nice to see 3d choice now instead of playing games only on a 2d plane. I hope the future is hologram based.
 
Grooveriding said:
The problem with 120hz is you can't get it on a quality monitor yet. It's only available on TN panels currently and only available for 1920x1080 resolution AFAIK.

Once there is a 2560x1600 120hz IPS monitor for a price that I couldn't get a used car for I am on board with 120hz really fast. $2000 would be reasonable I think for such a beauty.
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I'm waiting for just such an animal too. 🙁
 
120hz is amazing, in the sense that I now have difficulty going back and gaming on 60hz monitors. I also just upgraded from a Samsung 2233rz (120hz) to a BenQ XL2420T and this is one incredible display; games are now both amazing looking and yet still as responsive as ever.
 
Karstein said:
120hz is amazing, in the sense that I now have difficulty going back and gaming on 60hz monitors. I also just upgraded from a Samsung 2233rz (120hz) to a BenQ XL2420T and this is one incredible display; games are now both amazing looking and yet still as responsive as ever.
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While I definitely can respect the opinion of IPS users, I do giggle a little bit when I hear when you go IPS you never go back. I have the XL2420T in FPS2 mode, which provides probably the most distorted color calibration of any current shipping monitor preset.
 
ShintaiDK said:
3D is bullshit and will soon be gone again like the previous times. And I would say 120Hz is as well. Tho some will claim otherwise and most likely see red 😛

GFX makers are essentially getting desperate. The redicilous AA modes have reached a limit. Then 3 screens didnt work out. 3D and 120Hz is the next steps.
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Oh noes, 3D is here to stay..... the flagship maybe not in form of a panel, but

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-john-carmack-cracked-virtual-reality-gaming/

If Carmack says so, sign me up.
 
QuakeCon 2012 Panel – Virtual Insanity – The Future of Gaming


Here is a video recording of th Virtual Insanity panel at QuakeCon 2012 featuring John Carmack (id Software), Michael Abrash (Valve), and Palmer Luckey (Oculus). Moderated by Todd Hollenshead (id Software). The guys are talking about AR, VR, stereo 3d and future of gaming with these technologies getting adopted for gaming, and of course a lot more information about the Oculus Rift… spend an hour to watch it if you weren’t able to attend QuakeCon.
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http://3dvision-blog.com/8238-quakecon-2012-panel-virtual-insanity-the-future-of-gaming/
 
120mhz is a must for a high end rig, otherwise you just have a rig that's far faster than your screen which is dreadfully apparent. Pushing 100fps through a 60hz screen is ugly.
 
psolord said:
The article mentions next gen TVs more than once. Where are they and what are they waiting for?
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I assume that you're not seeing it because the market is simply too niche right now. Most console games can't even render at 1080p, and actually render at 720p (or lower). This works well with HDMI 1.4a's 720p60 resolution. NTSC standard is only 23.976 FPS... why would they need any higher?

HurleyBird said:
Mhz? 😛
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That screen would look mighty crisp! 😉
 
Yup 120Hz and 3D are gimmicks and they are gimmicks that take 120FPS to run perfectly LOL. Last I checked to maintain a minimum of 120fps to glean max benefit and performance in modern games well it's going to cost you a retarded amount of cash to the tune of $1000 to play on max settings and maintain perfect game play using these technologies LOL.
 
BD231 said:
120mhz is a must for a high end rig, otherwise you just have a rig that's far faster than your screen which is dreadfully apparent. Pushing 100fps through a 60hz screen is ugly.
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Too bad high resolution looks a ton better. 1080p on a 27" screen from 2 feet away looks pretty bad. On a large screen 40" or more from 5-6 feet it's ok, but trust me. There is nothing high end at all about a 1080p TN. 120Hz or no.
 
cmdrdredd said:
Too bad high resolution looks a ton better. 1080p on a 27" screen from 2 feet away looks pretty bad. On a large screen 40" or more from 5-6 feet it's ok, but trust me. There is nothing high end at all about a 1080p TN. 120Hz or no.
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I agree. I'm not currently running anything special. 24" 1920x1200 60Hz TN panel and I'm anxiously awaiting for the day I can get a 120Hz 2560x1440 IPS panel. If however my current monitor were to go out on me before that happens and I had to make a decision between a 120Hz TN and a 60Hz 27" 2560x1440 IPS screen, it would be an easy choice to go with the higher resolution IPS display.
 
BD231 said:
24'' looks alright at 1080p, obviously more detail is better but 60hz monitors suck for gaming.
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Do you even have to graphics power to push more than 60fps min in modern games running under maxed out graphical settings with high levels of AA cause most people don't have that luxury mate 🙂
 
mutantmagnet said:
I'm surprised after four pages I'm going to have to be the first person who mentions this.

120hz IPS monitors do exist now.

You can only import them from South Korea and to get them to work that way you need a discrete video card to overclock them. I'm not really proficient on the technical details but you have to go to other forums to find out how you do this.

These monitors from South Korea were discovered back in February on eBay but after a month and half they were sold out. The monitors were a limited run model because they had hardware specs that weren't compliant with manufacturing standards which is why they were being off loaded. Because of the relative success of how fast those monitors sold a handful of sellers are stepping up but you have to actually know who to buy from.

Two sellers are mentioned in a article and comment discussion on Techreport and the most prominent seller I've been following, for when I make my own purchase in the future, runs a website called 120hz.net.
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I have read about them. What I remember reading was that it involved some sort of overclocking of the clock generator on your video card to push the signal to the monitor. Something like that and that it put your video card at risk. And it was only some of the 1440p Catleap monitors from Korea.

Maybe I had it wrong, but pretty certain this is what I remember hearing.

I would prefer to pick up a Dell, HP etc 30" panel that is sold as 120hz and just hook it up to DP 1.2a port and use it. It's not the sort of thing I'd want to do a hack job to get up and running.
 
You'll find a lot of the things people talk about around here are totally exaggerated to the point of myths.

You need to be careful who you believe and take nothing at face value, research on your own. You will find people have strong opinions and are willing to lie to advance them onto others.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
You'll find a lot of the things people talk about around here are totally exaggerated to the point of myths.

You need to be careful who you believe and take nothing at face value, research on your own. You will find people have strong opinions and are willing to lie to advance them onto others.
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The onus is on the individual to cross reference and doulbe check every opinion even those from major publications and trusted sources let alone a possible inebriated average gamer joe. Take for instance the love letter on this site filled with sensationally strong onions and just plain false blow out of proportion lies LOL.
 
I've read about these dodgy cheap IPS panels being overclocked to 100hz, not 120hz, but I've not actually seen anything concrete on this such as people taking these panels and doing some proper testing with them to actually demonstrate this works as expected.

Most cable standards can't even handle the bandwidth for 2560x1600 or 2560x1440 @ 120hz.
 
Better responsiveness, lower lag > slightly nicer colours - not that there's anything wrong with the colours on my 120hz screen.
 
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