"That last comment was made in jest, hence the smilie face. Do you think I go around asking people how much they weigh? I just threw 90 lbs out there. If you have a problem with that, take it up with my lawyer"
Hahaha! NSF4, you changed your comment. :| LOL! It tickles me when some guys get into trouble and then make a scheme to escape the trouble.
Fine, what's your lawyer's name and where is he or she licenced to practice at?
LOL! 
Hahaha! NSF4, you changed your comment. :| LOL! It tickles me when some guys get into trouble and then make a scheme to escape the trouble.
Fine, what's your lawyer's name and where is he or she licenced to practice at?
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<< "That last comment was made in jest, hence the smilie face. Do you think I go around asking people how much they weigh? I just threw 90 lbs out there. If you have a problem with that, take it up with my lawyer"
Hahaha! NSF4, you changed your comment. :| LOL! It tickles me when some guys get into trouble and then make a scheme to escape the trouble.
Fine, what's your lawyer's name and where is he or she licenced to practice at?
>>Last name Coontz...works in Burlington, NC. Anything else?
"Last name Coontz...works in Burlington, NC. Anything else? "
Wooohooo! Kewl, my friend! Yes, I've got one more thing . . . it's for you this time: All of my hugz, affection and luv to ya there for not being serious about your comment.
"Wooohooo! Kewl, my friend!
Yes, I've got one more thing . . . it's for you this time: All of my hugz, affection and luv to ya there for not being serious about your comment.
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<< "Last name Coontz...works in Burlington, NC. Anything else?
"Wooohooo! Kewl, my friend!
Yes, I've got one more thing . . . it's for you this time: All of my hugz, affection and luv to ya there for not being serious about your comment. >>Haha, it's all good. We skinny people need to stick together
<< Flat, you got a new girl friend? The last time I read your post about a gf, you said she had just jilted ya or something like that. And you spoke of how you always got emotional around her 'cuz you could not help it.
So, you got a new one, if you don't mind me asking? >>No same fabulous girl, she sorta became a little disillusioned with our relationship. But for the moment we are back together and things are really great... I just pray they stay this way!
Edit: Yhea, I am really emotional, I always express my feelings to her (alot) Its sorta one sided though cause she practically never tells me she loves me etc.
Or they could have just raised the strength requirement for the males... say that they HAVE to be able to lift even the tubby 140 pounders. It's prolly not much different of an effort to lose 10 pounds versus gaining enough strength to lift 10 more lbs... and getting stronger can often be healthier than losing weight that you may or may not need to lose.
But ya, I imagine that they have more of a shortage of male cheerleaders than female try-outs, so they wanna not scare away the guys that they do have.
anyway, this kinda rule is nothing new. it's just been made explicit by this school, rather than an understood kinda thing.
But ya, I imagine that they have more of a shortage of male cheerleaders than female try-outs, so they wanna not scare away the guys that they do have.
anyway, this kinda rule is nothing new. it's just been made explicit by this school, rather than an understood kinda thing.
i dont think my old high school had a weight limit. it didnt matter though because all our cheerleaders were at or below 120 and a very good portion of them were very good looking. our dance squad was freakin great tho.
<< My girl weighs 133lbs and is anything but fat (she is short also 5'3). She is a swimmer so she has nice nice broad shoulders
She is soft where its a good thing and nice & firm other places like her stomach is really nice & firm Did I mention she is the most beautiful girl I have ever seen? >>Muscular girls are heavy (muscle is heavier than fat), and it does not say anything about thinness, yes.
Lucky bastard
For cheerleaders to stay in shape they gotta work out hard, including lifting weights. That increases muscle mass which in turn causes weight gain (but in all the right places). So it's up to them: either skinny, flabby cheerleaders or muscular 130lb + ones.
--Sarah
--Sarah
<< Male cheerleaders??? >>
LMAO
Seriously, a friend of mine was a male cheerleader in high school. He was in incredibly good shape, one of the most "manly" men I knew in the sense of self-assurance, and basically could have had his choice of women had he chosen to use that advantage.
the one year i spent in high school, i saw some UGLY chearleaders...hell, the school was smack dab in the middle of a ghetto.
few hot smart chicks though
oh well, file system check high school
oh well, file system check high school
<< what is worse? 130+ lb girls, or male cheerleaders?
Anyways, i think they are trying to get rid of fat cheerleaders, but i cant say i disagree. Its not a plesant experience to watch one dance around. >>
125 lbs isn't "fat" per se...
Freejack2
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Actually what that weight limit will get them for cheerleaders, varies quite a bit, depends on height and frame size. Found this table on ask.com
Kind of limits how tall their cheerleaders can be.
HEIGHT & WEIGHT TABLE FOR WOMEN
Weights at ages 25-59 based on lowest mortality.
Weight in pounds according to frame
(in indoor clothing weighing 3 lbs.; shoes with 1" heels).
Height - Small ----- Medium -- Large
---------- Frame ---- Frame ---- Frame
=================================
4' 10"- 102-111 - 109-121 - 118-131
4' 11"- 103-113 - 111-123 - 120-134
5' 0" -- 104-115 - 113-126 - 122-137
5' 1" -- 106-118 - 115-129 - 125-140
5' 2" -- 108-121 - 118-132 - 128-143
5' 3" -- 111-124 - 121-135 - 131-147
5' 4" -- 114-127 - 124-138 - 134-151
5' 5" -- 117-130 - 127-141 - 137-155
5' 6" -- 120-133 - 130-144 - 140-159
5' 7" -- 123-136 - 133-147 - 143-163
5' 8" -- 126-139 - 136-150 - 146-167
5' 9" -- 129-142 - 139-153 - 149-170
5' 10"- 132-145 - 142-156 - 152-173
5' 11"- 135-148 - 145-159 - 155-176
6' 0" -- 138-151 - 148-162 - 158-179
Kind of limits how tall their cheerleaders can be.
HEIGHT & WEIGHT TABLE FOR WOMEN
Weights at ages 25-59 based on lowest mortality.
Weight in pounds according to frame
(in indoor clothing weighing 3 lbs.; shoes with 1" heels).
Height - Small ----- Medium -- Large
---------- Frame ---- Frame ---- Frame
=================================
4' 10"- 102-111 - 109-121 - 118-131
4' 11"- 103-113 - 111-123 - 120-134
5' 0" -- 104-115 - 113-126 - 122-137
5' 1" -- 106-118 - 115-129 - 125-140
5' 2" -- 108-121 - 118-132 - 128-143
5' 3" -- 111-124 - 121-135 - 131-147
5' 4" -- 114-127 - 124-138 - 134-151
5' 5" -- 117-130 - 127-141 - 137-155
5' 6" -- 120-133 - 130-144 - 140-159
5' 7" -- 123-136 - 133-147 - 143-163
5' 8" -- 126-139 - 136-150 - 146-167
5' 9" -- 129-142 - 139-153 - 149-170
5' 10"- 132-145 - 142-156 - 152-173
5' 11"- 135-148 - 145-159 - 155-176
6' 0" -- 138-151 - 148-162 - 158-179
you people make me ill.
130 pounds is nowhere near fat, if a girl has a c cup breast she is pretty much over 130 pounds.
agh! you wonder why young girls have eating disorders?
you boys have no sense in how much girls weigh or what a girl of a certain weight looks like.
*kat. <-- thinks you fap fap boys need to start getting a life.
edit: and it does promote eating disorders much like figure skating and gymnastics and ballet, a girl with a medium athletic build, weighs much much more than 120 pounds.
these are athletes we're talking about, not just random girls who are lucky cuz they are thin.
130 pounds is nowhere near fat, if a girl has a c cup breast she is pretty much over 130 pounds.
agh! you wonder why young girls have eating disorders?
you boys have no sense in how much girls weigh or what a girl of a certain weight looks like.
*kat. <-- thinks you fap fap boys need to start getting a life.
edit: and it does promote eating disorders much like figure skating and gymnastics and ballet, a girl with a medium athletic build, weighs much much more than 120 pounds.
these are athletes we're talking about, not just random girls who are lucky cuz they are thin.
i don't think 130 is necessarily overweight... of course it does depend on how tall you are. but height shouldn't matter, if what the coach is saying is true (that it's to ease the strain on the male cheerleaders). in fact, height would be bad...more inertia or something.
these are athletes we're talking about, not just random girls who are lucky cuz they are thin.
i thought we were talking about cheerleaders...
and male cheerleaders... well the only time i've been to a h.s. football game... the male cheerleaders were... effeminate.
these are athletes we're talking about, not just random girls who are lucky cuz they are thin.
i thought we were talking about cheerleaders...
and male cheerleaders... well the only time i've been to a h.s. football game... the male cheerleaders were... effeminate.
Nitemare
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That 120 is also only a limit for those not above 5'7 one if it is the Colorado school..
I remember hearing that on the radio as well
I guess with the US becoming a bunch of fat lardos though they really didn't have much of a choice..The only difference is it is official now whereas before it was simply understood that you couldn't be a cheerleader if you had fat in the wrong places.
Cheerleaders are supposed to appeal to the eye..they wear skirts and halfshirts that show their belly. Do you really want to see one with rolls of fat exposed? What if the big girl from Shallow Hal wanted to be a cheerleader? Constitutionally and legally she could as they could not descriminate based on their weight, however they could on her lack of athleticism...This is where tryouts come into play..Girls "tryout" and the ugly and chunky ones are automatically out at this stage. Judges can think of a thousand and one excuses to make it legal.
Legally they can't restrict based on weight...this isn't wrestling and they don't have weight classes. They wouldn't have to do this unless some 150-160 lb girl tried out for cheerleader and then made a stink about it..She should have obeyed common sense....overweight girls do not attempt a physically exerting sport which showcases your abs when they are behind 20 lbs of lard....
It is a whole lot easier for the school to get skinny girls than it is for them to get male bodybuilders able to lift swine with the greatest of ease.
This reminds me of that male dude who sued Hooters because they wouldn't let him work as a waitress....Get way over it because it is a given and common sense.
Story:
<< (March 18, 2002 1:43 p.m. EST) - The University of Colorado's elite cheerleading squad is about to shed
unwanted pounds.
CU's coach, worried about injuries to male cheerleaders, has told women planning to attend next month's
tryouts that they should weigh less than 120 pounds if they hope to make the competitive team.
The new weight guideline, for women shorter than 5-foot-7, replaces an informal 130-pound limit that
Coach Travis Prior instituted last season - a rule that temporarily sidelined several female cheerleaders.
"This happens everywhere," said a veteran CU cheerleader, who insisted on anonymity for fear of
reprisals. "With this new weight limit, girls are already talking about going on unhealthy diets.
"This is definitely sending the wrong message."
Health experts agree - but admit the situation is something of a Catch-22. They acknowledge the very real
need to prevent injury, yet say the new weight restriction could lead to potentially deadly eating disorders.
"These girls will develop really restrictive eating habits to force their bodies into a size that's too small for
them," said Holly Hoff, program director for Seattle-based Eating Disorders Awareness and Prevention.
"You're sort of trading one set of problems for another."
The weight rule - which applies only to women - is raising questions about whether CU's cheerleading
program is in compliance with Title IX, the landmark legislation barring gender discrimination in college
athletics.
Prior, a former CU cheerleader, is unapologetic about the coed squad's new weight guideline, calling it "a
preference, really; not a restriction." Women weighing more than 120 pounds may still try out for the
noncompetitive all-women team, he said.
"There's really no discrimination toward girls who want to be a part of our program," Prior said.
Others aren't so sure.
"It looks to me like it's discriminatory," said Melissa Hart, a CU law professor specializing in bias cases.
"It's setting standards for women, but not for men."
Sherri McKelvey, assistant director of the CU athletic department's compliance office, acknowledged that
the weight recommendation could pose a Title IX question. But, she said, her office doesn't monitor
cheerleading because it isn't an NCAA-sanctioned sport.
"We just don't pay a lot of attention to it," McKelvey said.
The idea of a weight restriction was first introduced last summer as a way to deal with injuries sustained by
male cheerleaders who throw their female teammates into the air, an activity known as "stunting."
The 15 women on last season's competitive squad each weighed between 98 and 135 pounds and stood
between 5 feet and 5 feet, 7 inches tall, according to the coach.
Nearly every season, Prior said, at least one male cheerleader undergoes surgery to repair muscle or
tendon damage, usually in the shoulder. Last year, one team member missed five months of the season with
a torn biceps.
Prior isn't alone in his concerns about cheerleading injuries. Just last week, in fact, injuries and liability
concerns led the University of Nebraska to ban stunting by its teams.
A 1999 study published in The Physician and Sportsmedicine journal said cheerleading was responsible for
76 percent of deaths and serious spinal injuries among female college athletes between 1982 and 1997.
"These types of stunts are just not safe," Bill Byrne, Nebraska's athletic director, said in a statement
announcing his school's ban on human pyramids, handsprings and other forms of stunting.
Prior implemented the 130-pound rule in August and required several women to sit out stunting exercises
during team practices. "Then they lost the weight and were unbenched," the veteran cheerleader said.
This season, Prior has dropped the elite squad's recommended weight by 10 pounds, noting, on CU's Web
site, that "persons of less than average size, particularly females, are more likely to demonstrate the
flexibility which is necessary in the athletic aspects of cheerleading."
Women will be weighed during the April 5-7 tryouts, Prior said. And those who make the squad will be
subjected to weekly or bimonthly weigh-ins.
"I'm stunned," said Jennifer Hagman, director of the eating disorders clinic at Children's Hospital in Denver.
"Someone's going to have to work at not getting an eating disorder. This is dangerous." >>
Compliments of nandotimes
I remember hearing that on the radio as well
I guess with the US becoming a bunch of fat lardos though they really didn't have much of a choice..The only difference is it is official now whereas before it was simply understood that you couldn't be a cheerleader if you had fat in the wrong places.
Cheerleaders are supposed to appeal to the eye..they wear skirts and halfshirts that show their belly. Do you really want to see one with rolls of fat exposed? What if the big girl from Shallow Hal wanted to be a cheerleader? Constitutionally and legally she could as they could not descriminate based on their weight, however they could on her lack of athleticism...This is where tryouts come into play..Girls "tryout" and the ugly and chunky ones are automatically out at this stage. Judges can think of a thousand and one excuses to make it legal.
Legally they can't restrict based on weight...this isn't wrestling and they don't have weight classes. They wouldn't have to do this unless some 150-160 lb girl tried out for cheerleader and then made a stink about it..She should have obeyed common sense....overweight girls do not attempt a physically exerting sport which showcases your abs when they are behind 20 lbs of lard....
It is a whole lot easier for the school to get skinny girls than it is for them to get male bodybuilders able to lift swine with the greatest of ease.
This reminds me of that male dude who sued Hooters because they wouldn't let him work as a waitress....Get way over it because it is a given and common sense.
Story:
<< (March 18, 2002 1:43 p.m. EST) - The University of Colorado's elite cheerleading squad is about to shed
unwanted pounds.
CU's coach, worried about injuries to male cheerleaders, has told women planning to attend next month's
tryouts that they should weigh less than 120 pounds if they hope to make the competitive team.
The new weight guideline, for women shorter than 5-foot-7, replaces an informal 130-pound limit that
Coach Travis Prior instituted last season - a rule that temporarily sidelined several female cheerleaders.
"This happens everywhere," said a veteran CU cheerleader, who insisted on anonymity for fear of
reprisals. "With this new weight limit, girls are already talking about going on unhealthy diets.
"This is definitely sending the wrong message."
Health experts agree - but admit the situation is something of a Catch-22. They acknowledge the very real
need to prevent injury, yet say the new weight restriction could lead to potentially deadly eating disorders.
"These girls will develop really restrictive eating habits to force their bodies into a size that's too small for
them," said Holly Hoff, program director for Seattle-based Eating Disorders Awareness and Prevention.
"You're sort of trading one set of problems for another."
The weight rule - which applies only to women - is raising questions about whether CU's cheerleading
program is in compliance with Title IX, the landmark legislation barring gender discrimination in college
athletics.
Prior, a former CU cheerleader, is unapologetic about the coed squad's new weight guideline, calling it "a
preference, really; not a restriction." Women weighing more than 120 pounds may still try out for the
noncompetitive all-women team, he said.
"There's really no discrimination toward girls who want to be a part of our program," Prior said.
Others aren't so sure.
"It looks to me like it's discriminatory," said Melissa Hart, a CU law professor specializing in bias cases.
"It's setting standards for women, but not for men."
Sherri McKelvey, assistant director of the CU athletic department's compliance office, acknowledged that
the weight recommendation could pose a Title IX question. But, she said, her office doesn't monitor
cheerleading because it isn't an NCAA-sanctioned sport.
"We just don't pay a lot of attention to it," McKelvey said.
The idea of a weight restriction was first introduced last summer as a way to deal with injuries sustained by
male cheerleaders who throw their female teammates into the air, an activity known as "stunting."
The 15 women on last season's competitive squad each weighed between 98 and 135 pounds and stood
between 5 feet and 5 feet, 7 inches tall, according to the coach.
Nearly every season, Prior said, at least one male cheerleader undergoes surgery to repair muscle or
tendon damage, usually in the shoulder. Last year, one team member missed five months of the season with
a torn biceps.
Prior isn't alone in his concerns about cheerleading injuries. Just last week, in fact, injuries and liability
concerns led the University of Nebraska to ban stunting by its teams.
A 1999 study published in The Physician and Sportsmedicine journal said cheerleading was responsible for
76 percent of deaths and serious spinal injuries among female college athletes between 1982 and 1997.
"These types of stunts are just not safe," Bill Byrne, Nebraska's athletic director, said in a statement
announcing his school's ban on human pyramids, handsprings and other forms of stunting.
Prior implemented the 130-pound rule in August and required several women to sit out stunting exercises
during team practices. "Then they lost the weight and were unbenched," the veteran cheerleader said.
This season, Prior has dropped the elite squad's recommended weight by 10 pounds, noting, on CU's Web
site, that "persons of less than average size, particularly females, are more likely to demonstrate the
flexibility which is necessary in the athletic aspects of cheerleading."
Women will be weighed during the April 5-7 tryouts, Prior said. And those who make the squad will be
subjected to weekly or bimonthly weigh-ins.
"I'm stunned," said Jennifer Hagman, director of the eating disorders clinic at Children's Hospital in Denver.
"Someone's going to have to work at not getting an eating disorder. This is dangerous." >>
Compliments of nandotimes
a bit off topic........... but............. has any one seen the movie ............ 'Bring it On'
Cheers,
Aquaman
Cheers,
Aquaman
<< Prior implemented the 130-pound rule in August and required several women to sit out stunting exercises
during team practices. "Then they lost the weight and were unbenched," the veteran cheerleader said.
>>
This doesn't sound unreasonable to me at all. They aren't prevented from joining the squad, or even prevented from performing. They're just not going to get thrown in the air if they're over the limit. If it's discrimination, do you think that they should also have to beef up the male squad?
I can see it now. Registration day they bring out the 200lb cheerleader. "Boys, you have to throw her this high (points to mark on the gym wall) in order to make the squad.
What you have to realize is that cheerleaders are now basically gymnastics squads with pom-poms.
Look at all the competitions now. No tall girls, no hooters.
It's perfectly understandable that they don't want the porkers in there. They don't want to have to start paying for hernia operations for the male cheerleaders.
If you make the schools take any girl that tries out, then you might as well start making the basketball team take 5' tall guys, and the football team take stick-boys.
There is no difference.
Every sport isn't for everybody, and cheerleading is no different.
<<So it's up to them: either skinny, flabby cheerleaders or muscular 130lb + ones.
--Sarah >>
Sarah, look at college cheerleading squads. How many girls do you think are 5'5"? Not many. The NC State cheerleaders won the national championship last year, and I've seen them in person many times. They are all little, tiny people, just like gymnasts.
If you're 5'1", and 130lbs, you are fat, period. You may not be a huge whale, but it will be noticeable.
That's not my type of girl, I prefer a little meat on the bones, but you know, they don't have 160lb guys playing offensive lineman, either.
<<130 pounds is nowhere near fat, if a girl has a c cup breast she is pretty much over 130 pounds>>
Eakers, most cheerleaders don't come close to C-cups. They are midgets, basically. That's because of all the gymnastics they do now. Watch any cheerleading competition and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Personally, I wish they'd stop all the gymnastics and get some taller, more voluptuous chicks with some chests.
But that's just me.
Look at all the competitions now. No tall girls, no hooters.
It's perfectly understandable that they don't want the porkers in there. They don't want to have to start paying for hernia operations for the male cheerleaders.
If you make the schools take any girl that tries out, then you might as well start making the basketball team take 5' tall guys, and the football team take stick-boys.
There is no difference.
Every sport isn't for everybody, and cheerleading is no different.
<<So it's up to them: either skinny, flabby cheerleaders or muscular 130lb + ones.
--Sarah >>
Sarah, look at college cheerleading squads. How many girls do you think are 5'5"? Not many. The NC State cheerleaders won the national championship last year, and I've seen them in person many times. They are all little, tiny people, just like gymnasts.
If you're 5'1", and 130lbs, you are fat, period. You may not be a huge whale, but it will be noticeable.
That's not my type of girl, I prefer a little meat on the bones, but you know, they don't have 160lb guys playing offensive lineman, either.
<<130 pounds is nowhere near fat, if a girl has a c cup breast she is pretty much over 130 pounds>>
Eakers, most cheerleaders don't come close to C-cups. They are midgets, basically. That's because of all the gymnastics they do now. Watch any cheerleading competition and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Personally, I wish they'd stop all the gymnastics and get some taller, more voluptuous chicks with some chests.
But that's just me.
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