12-22-07 Americans fleeing U.S. and behaving just like Mexicans as illegals

[alchemize]

On my way to being rich. No worries, Dave. I'm staying here, if for nothing else to find more ways to screw you over!

Besides, my paid shill contract says I have to remain in the US.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: alchemize
On my way to being rich. No worries, Dave. I'm staying here, if for nothing else to find more ways to screw you over!

Besides, my paid shill contract says I have to remain in the US.

That's OK.

A benefit of the economy going down the tubes is a lot of the illegals are packing up and going back to Mexico:

12-23-2007 U.S. illegal immigrants 'self deport' as woes mount

PHOENIX - Mexican illegal immigrant Lindi sat down with her husband Marco Antonio in the weeks before Christmas to decide when to go back to Mexico

She has spent three years working as a hairdresser in and around Phoenix, but now she figures it is time to go back to her hometown of Aguascalientes in central Mexico.

"The situation has got so tough that there don't seem to be many options left for us"

The couple are among a growing number of illegal immigrants across the United States who are starting to pack their bags and move on as a crackdown on undocumented immigrants widens and the U.S. economy slows, turning a traditional Christmas trek home into a one-way trip.

Mexican consular sources in Phoenix say they are seeing a spike in the number of immigrants applying for Mexican citizenship for their U.S.-born children, which will allow them to enroll in schools in Mexico.

They are also seeing a rise in requests for papers enabling families to carry household belongings back to Mexico, free of import duties.

Members of the Brazilian community in the U.S. northeast, meanwhile, say they are starting to see an increase in the number of illegal immigrants heading back to their homes in Brazil in recent months.

Aluisio Carvalho, 66, left a wife and four children behind in Brazil in 2001 when he set off to find work in Boston. Since then, he has managed to pay for the education of his children by working in a restaurant, but is now planning to leave himself in February

"Salaries are really low, and living costs are high. We also face too much exploitation at work here, too many demands," he said.

The toughening environment has been coupled with a turndown in the U.S. economy, which has tipped the balance toward self deportation for many illegal immigrants left struggling to find work.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Behaving just like illegals?

Teaching English to children is equal to contributing to the exploitation process of big business? You are clearly blowing this up into something it is not. The Algerians/France situation is the only real example in Europe that could be compared with United States/illegals.

Nice try.

They are not even trying to do it legalyy so yes they are absolutely not only acting like illegals they are illegals.

NO one is debating whether or not this people are illegal, but to the extent of that occupation and what it entails. When Americans think of illegal aliens, they see dudes sitting on the sidewalk waiting to be picked up by some cheap contractor. They don't think of English teachers.

The economical and social impact of illegal American immigration, which is quite minor compared to the majority of "situations", is so small that the only real concern would be safety; which as of now, there are no available studies releasing such information.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: alchemize
On my way to being rich. No worries, Dave. I'm staying here, if for nothing else to find more ways to screw you over!

Besides, my paid shill contract says I have to remain in the US.

That's OK.

A benefit of the economy going down the tubes is a lot of the illegals are packing up and going back to Mexico:

12-23-2007 U.S. illegal immigrants 'self deport' as woes mount

PHOENIX - Mexican illegal immigrant Lindi sat down with her husband Marco Antonio in the weeks before Christmas to decide when to go back to Mexico

She has spent three years working as a hairdresser in and around Phoenix, but now she figures it is time to go back to her hometown of Aguascalientes in central Mexico.

"The situation has got so tough that there don't seem to be many options left for us"

The couple are among a growing number of illegal immigrants across the United States who are starting to pack their bags and move on as a crackdown on undocumented immigrants widens and the U.S. economy slows, turning a traditional Christmas trek home into a one-way trip.

Mexican consular sources in Phoenix say they are seeing a spike in the number of immigrants applying for Mexican citizenship for their U.S.-born children, which will allow them to enroll in schools in Mexico.

They are also seeing a rise in requests for papers enabling families to carry household belongings back to Mexico, free of import duties.

Members of the Brazilian community in the U.S. northeast, meanwhile, say they are starting to see an increase in the number of illegal immigrants heading back to their homes in Brazil in recent months.

Aluisio Carvalho, 66, left a wife and four children behind in Brazil in 2001 when he set off to find work in Boston. Since then, he has managed to pay for the education of his children by working in a restaurant, but is now planning to leave himself in February

"Salaries are really low, and living costs are high. We also face too much exploitation at work here, too many demands," he said.

The toughening environment has been coupled with a turndown in the U.S. economy, which has tipped the balance toward self deportation for many illegal immigrants left struggling to find work.

Who says there arent positives to a ressive economy?!!! :thumbsup: Dont let the door hit ya in the ass!

/wave

 

[palehorse]

Dave >
Do you believe that all rich people are republican?

Does becoming rich make someone evul?

Does being successful mean that you lose the right to complain about things that bother you?

Is that seriously how you view the world?!

 

[Nitemare]

ROFFLES, peeps deported back to the US

I say, let them go. The US would be better off if all the whiners and complainers moved to another country.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Dave >
Do you believe that all rich people are republican?

Does becoming rich make someone evul?

Does being successful mean that you lose the right to complain about things that bother you?

Is that seriously how you view the world?!

Can I add to the questions?

Do you believe once you become "rich", however YOU define it, you all of a sudden wake up one day and say to yourself, "Self, I dont give a shit about middle class anymore. It's time to screw em"

You've said the rich are pretty much self serving. Do you think the poor underlings of this country arent? Do you think they do more for the good of society than the rich?

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: alchemize
On my way to being rich. No worries, Dave. I'm staying here, if for nothing else to find more ways to screw you over!

Besides, my paid shill contract says I have to remain in the US.

That's OK.

A benefit of the economy going down the tubes is a lot of the illegals are packing up and going back to Mexico:

12-23-2007 U.S. illegal immigrants 'self deport' as woes mount

PHOENIX - Mexican illegal immigrant Lindi sat down with her husband Marco Antonio in the weeks before Christmas to decide when to go back to Mexico

She has spent three years working as a hairdresser in and around Phoenix, but now she figures it is time to go back to her hometown of Aguascalientes in central Mexico.

"The situation has got so tough that there don't seem to be many options left for us"

The couple are among a growing number of illegal immigrants across the United States who are starting to pack their bags and move on as a crackdown on undocumented immigrants widens and the U.S. economy slows, turning a traditional Christmas trek home into a one-way trip.

Mexican consular sources in Phoenix say they are seeing a spike in the number of immigrants applying for Mexican citizenship for their U.S.-born children, which will allow them to enroll in schools in Mexico.

They are also seeing a rise in requests for papers enabling families to carry household belongings back to Mexico, free of import duties.

Members of the Brazilian community in the U.S. northeast, meanwhile, say they are starting to see an increase in the number of illegal immigrants heading back to their homes in Brazil in recent months.

Aluisio Carvalho, 66, left a wife and four children behind in Brazil in 2001 when he set off to find work in Boston. Since then, he has managed to pay for the education of his children by working in a restaurant, but is now planning to leave himself in February

"Salaries are really low, and living costs are high. We also face too much exploitation at work here, too many demands," he said.

The toughening environment has been coupled with a turndown in the U.S. economy, which has tipped the balance toward self deportation for many illegal immigrants left struggling to find work.

Nice article.. too bad I'm sure by the time it's said and done only 10% of them will leave tops.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma
I want to legally go, but most countries want a net worth of $1,000,000 so you don't end up on their welfare system or the like. This was within my grasp before the USD took a nosedive.

Look into Poland the Baltic states (very low taxes in the Baltics, especially Estonia). Currently they're experiencing an exodus of their educated workers going to work in higher paying countries. I'm sure they'd love taking in any educated workers they can find.

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: alchemize
On my way to being rich. No worries, Dave. I'm staying here, if for nothing else to find more ways to screw you over!

Besides, my paid shill contract says I have to remain in the US.

That's OK.

A benefit of the economy going down the tubes is a lot of the illegals are packing up and going back to Mexico:

12-23-2007 U.S. illegal immigrants 'self deport' as woes mount

PHOENIX - Mexican illegal immigrant Lindi sat down with her husband Marco Antonio in the weeks before Christmas to decide when to go back to Mexico

She has spent three years working as a hairdresser in and around Phoenix, but now she figures it is time to go back to her hometown of Aguascalientes in central Mexico.

"The situation has got so tough that there don't seem to be many options left for us"

The couple are among a growing number of illegal immigrants across the United States who are starting to pack their bags and move on as a crackdown on undocumented immigrants widens and the U.S. economy slows, turning a traditional Christmas trek home into a one-way trip.

Mexican consular sources in Phoenix say they are seeing a spike in the number of immigrants applying for Mexican citizenship for their U.S.-born children, which will allow them to enroll in schools in Mexico.

They are also seeing a rise in requests for papers enabling families to carry household belongings back to Mexico, free of import duties.

Members of the Brazilian community in the U.S. northeast, meanwhile, say they are starting to see an increase in the number of illegal immigrants heading back to their homes in Brazil in recent months.

Aluisio Carvalho, 66, left a wife and four children behind in Brazil in 2001 when he set off to find work in Boston. Since then, he has managed to pay for the education of his children by working in a restaurant, but is now planning to leave himself in February

"Salaries are really low, and living costs are high. We also face too much exploitation at work here, too many demands," he said.

The toughening environment has been coupled with a turndown in the U.S. economy, which has tipped the balance toward self deportation for many illegal immigrants left struggling to find work.

Dont let the door hit you on the way out, and take some of your friends with you too. I like the bolded part, think about how much the illegals would scream if we did that in this country, not to mention stopped the free lunch program.

 

[MS13]

Racism!!!!

Any Pro-Illegals here can tell you the ONLY reason a country doesn't want people living illegally is because of their skin color.

In this example, all these Americans in Europe getting kicked out must be brown skin or darker But the white Americans in Europe are given flowers and red carpets.

When will the hatred stop??!?!?

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats. They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.

But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever. Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

I don't know any developed countries that are low on taxes or nearly tax free. Care to give me such list? Not third world, developed countries only.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats. They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.

But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever. Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

I don't know any developed countries that are low on taxes or nearly tax free. Care to give me such list? Not third world, developed countries only.

Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland for a few. Not sure what you think of 3rd world...guess you havent been there. Major cities in 3rd world countries are just as modern as NYC....but anyway. I gave you a few.

I am assuming youre asking just to argue, as if you were actually gonna do it you would research for yourself. Or out of curiousity I know only because of personal reasons. Im planning on expat-ing in the near future, unless tax code changes.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats. They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.

But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever. Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

I don't know any developed countries that are low on taxes or nearly tax free. Care to give me such list? Not third world, developed countries only.

Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland for a few. Not sure what you think of 3rd world...guess you havent been there. Major cities in 3rd world countries are just as modern as NYC....but anyway. I gave you a few.

I am assuming youre asking just to argue, as if you were actually gonna do it you would research for yourself. Or out of curiousity I know only because of personal reasons. Im planning on expat-ing in the near future, unless tax code changes.

Interesting. I never been to Europe <planning to one day soon> so that's why I asked you. Plus this is the internet, too many people just pull things out of their butt and say it is true. I will look further if those 4 countries you mentioned as "virtual tax free".

I have been to a few 3rd world countries and NYC and not sure what you mean "modern as NYC". If you mean a lot of people and noisy, then yes. But modern as in high standard of living and lifestyle? Nope.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Dont let the door hit you on the way out, and take some of your friends with you too. I like the bolded part, think about how much the illegals would scream if we did that in this country, not to mention stopped the free lunch program.

:thumbsup:

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You should see how many are fleeing California. More socialist and punitive the government, the more good people will take flight.

Little surprise Las Vegas has been the fastest growing city in the US for a decade.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats. They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.

But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever. Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

I don't know any developed countries that are low on taxes or nearly tax free. Care to give me such list? Not third world, developed countries only.

Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland for a few. Not sure what you think of 3rd world...guess you havent been there. Major cities in 3rd world countries are just as modern as NYC....but anyway. I gave you a few.

I am assuming youre asking just to argue, as if you were actually gonna do it you would research for yourself. Or out of curiousity I know only because of personal reasons. Im planning on expat-ing in the near future, unless tax code changes.

Interesting. I never been to Europe <planning to one day soon> so that's why I asked you. Plus this is the internet, too many people just pull things out of their butt and say it is true. I will look further if those 4 countries you mentioned as "virtual tax free".

I have been to a few 3rd world countries and NYC and not sure what you mean "modern as NYC". If you mean a lot of people and noisy, then yes. But modern as in high standard of living and lifestyle? Nope.

Three that come to mind for me I have been to are Manila, Bangkok, and Kuala Lumpur. Sure, they have their depressed parts, but most of the city (malls - which put America's to shame in terms of size and quality -, financial districts, "uptown districts") are similar to Wall Street, 5th Ave, and alot of NYC. Not to mention the majority of the 4 countries most would consider "3rd world" has high speed internet available.

If you have a chance check it out if you ever get there. Best part? The American dollar goes loooooong way. For example when I stay in Manila, I stay in Makati which is an uptown type part of Manila, and often stay at Hilton or Atrium Suites (both 5 star) for $89/night. 4 star can be had for 49-59/night. Fuckin beautiful.

 

[ElFenix]

i had the best salad ever in KL. swanky italian place (in the golden triangle i think) called nero vivo.