12-22-07 Americans fleeing U.S. and behaving just like Mexicans as illegals

dmcowen674

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I knew there would be a flood of Americans leaving the U.S. since 2001 but didn't know where they were going.

Looks like they have been behaving just like Mexicans as illegals.

Interesting

Anyone know an Expat?

12-22-2007 E.U.'s expanding borderless zone spells trouble for U.S. expats

Prague, Czech Republic - Seven years ago, Robert Hanawalt ditched a sales career in Washington to move to Prague, where he quickly realized that he could live indefinitely without official paperwork.

He taught English illegally for four years on 90-day tourist visas. The trick? Quick trips over the border, which reset the clock with a fresh passport stamp.

"I did that," Mr. Hanawalt says. "But after the first few times I thought, 'Why even bother? Nobody is checking these things.' "

But as nine countries, including the Czech Republic, join the European Union's borderless Schengen zone Friday, Brussels is now ordering member states to get tough on visa policy.

That could spell trouble for an unlikely class of illegal immigrants: American expats. Attracted by English teaching jobs, the low cost of living, and societies just waking up to the possibilities of Western tourism, thousands are estimated to be living and working illegally in central and eastern Europe.

Schengen's expansion is affecting others as well. Ukrainians, long accustomed to unfettered travel to Poland, now need a visa even for day trips. Slovenia is closing down unmanned footbridges along its border with Croatia.

Not every American in Prague is greeting Schengen coldly. "As someone living here legally, I think it's only fair that some of the permanent tourists here be made to do the same thing," says Mark Anderson, who moved here six years ago and started his own cleaning business.
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I never heard of this "Schengen zone" before.

Sounds like the old Berlin wall.
 

Pliablemoose

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Dave, you posted in another thread that you weren't going to make threads like this, yet here we are again.

And why the hell do you time stamp your threads? The forum software does that automatically.

:|
 

blackangst1

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I personally know 3 expats. They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.

But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever. Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Dave, you posted in another thread that you weren't going to make threads like this, yet here we are again.

And why the hell do you time stamp your threads? The forum software does that automatically.

:|

Do you see the thread titled "Illegals thread"?

I'm just posting like any other forum poster but of course that is not allowed by forum and country dictator lovers like you and many others in here.

If you have an issue with it I expect to see a post in the Personal Forums area by you like so many that go running home to mama like a baby do.

Like I've said before if you don't like my posts or threads do read them and don't reply.

Is there someone standing behind you forcing you?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?
 

TheSlamma

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I want to legally go, but most countries want a net worth of $1,000,000 so you don't end up on their welfare system or the like. This was within my grasp before the USD took a nosedive.
 

Pliablemoose

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Oct 11, 1999
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Could you maybe stop time stamping your "ordinary" threads then?

And back on topic, I seriously doubt that the number of US citizens in foreign countries illegally is straining their welfare system as ours is being strained by the Mexican invasion.

If you really want to see what the future of our country looks like, go to the local hospital & count how many newborns are brown versus every other ethnicity.

My hospital eats the costs of one hell of a lot of health care for illegals...

 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?

As soon as my trust gets settled and distributed according to my terms.

I'll still post though ;)

edit: Dave, maybe you can explain to me why someone with the resources WOULDNT want to expat? I mean. we have a country where the largest pool of citizens rally to screw the rich via taxes (because I dont own a company my tax rate will be 46%), the country's biggest spy agency (NSA) coroberates with the largest OS maker to create backdoors into it's OS's (Vista and XP) for access without setting off intrusion alarms (ports 1024 thru 1030), my federal government is stripping away my privacy, and last but not least no one gives a shit?

Tell me Dave.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
I want to legally go, but most countries want a net worth of $1,000,000 so you don't end up on their welfare system or the like. This was within my grasp before the USD took a nosedive.

thats misinformation. Although my continent of choice is Asia, Switzerland is very US expat friendly. So is Norway.
 

Jaskalas

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You should see how many are fleeing California. More socialist and punitive the government, the more good people will take flight.
 

Noobtastic

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Behaving just like illegals? Teaching English to children is equal to contributing to the exploitation process of big business? You are clearly blowing this up into something it is not. The Algerians/France situation is the only real example in Europe that could be compared with United States/illegals.

Nice try.


 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?

As soon as my trust gets settled and distributed according to my terms.

I'll still post though ;)

edit: Dave, maybe you can explain to me why someone with the resources WOULDNT want to expat? I mean. we have a country where the largest pool of citizens rally to screw the rich via taxes (because I dont own a company my tax rate will be 46%), the country's biggest spy agency (NSA) coroberates with the largest OS maker to create backdoors into it's OS's (Vista and XP) for access without setting off intrusion alarms (ports 1024 thru 1030), my federal government is stripping away my privacy, and last but not least no one gives a shit?

Tell me Dave.

We agree on this. Absolutely if I had the resources I would make like a Geese and get the flock out of here. This is not the country I was born into.

Funny how the rich destroyed it and they are the ones leaving.

Hopefully if enough leave fast enough the rest of us lowlifes can save it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Behaving just like illegals?

Teaching English to children is equal to contributing to the exploitation process of big business? You are clearly blowing this up into something it is not. The Algerians/France situation is the only real example in Europe that could be compared with United States/illegals.

Nice try.

They are not even trying to do it legalyy so yes they are absolutely not only acting like illegals they are illegals.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?

As soon as my trust gets settled and distributed according to my terms.

I'll still post though ;)

edit: Dave, maybe you can explain to me why someone with the resources WOULDNT want to expat? I mean. we have a country where the largest pool of citizens rally to screw the rich via taxes (because I dont own a company my tax rate will be 46%), the country's biggest spy agency (NSA) coroberates with the largest OS maker to create backdoors into it's OS's (Vista and XP) for access without setting off intrusion alarms (ports 1024 thru 1030), my federal government is stripping away my privacy, and last but not least no one gives a shit?

Tell me Dave.

We agree on this. Absolutely if I had the resources I would make like a Geese and get the flock out of here. This is not the country I was born into.

Funny how the rich destroyed it and they are the ones leaving.

Hopefully if enough leave fast enough the rest of us lowlifes can save it.

uh no Dave. Glad you agree with me on my choice though :)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?

As soon as my trust gets settled and distributed according to my terms.

I'll still post though ;)

Tell me Dave.
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I guess GWB sold his lies to the Senate while he was governer!
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

I'll tell you thanks for letting the cat out of the bag.

I as well as many other non-resident Republicans certainly suspected you lived on a silver spoon.

You're not qualified to post on any of the ills plagueing America.

It doesn't affect you in the least and never will.

Of course you'll continue post, what else does a rich boy that never has to work or struggle for a living with absolutely nothing to do have better to do? :confused:

You're not alone though that's for sure and there are plenty of paid GOP shills too helping you with the GOP agenda and propaganda.

Hopefully just like 2006 you guys are unsuccessful no matter how money is backing your nefarious undemocratic efforts.

You didn't give a timeline on the trust.

I suspect if next November's outcome is heavily Democrat especially in regards to the white house seat I "trust" you'll leave for the country of your choice. :cool: :thumbsup:

Just noticed your very sad sig.

Did Clinton start false war based on that lie?

No he certainly did not.

You certianly did not help your cause of being anti-Democrat with that sig.

All it did was show how anti-American you are and how much you hate Clinton because he makes your hero Bush look as bad as he is.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?

As soon as my trust gets settled and distributed according to my terms.

I'll still post though ;)

Tell me Dave.
-------------------------
I guess GWB sold his lies to the Senate while he was governer!
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

I'll tell you thanks for letting the cat out of the bag.

I as well as many other non-resident Republicans certainly suspected you lived on a silver spoon.

You're not qualified to post on any of the ills plagueing America.

It doesn't affect you in the least and never will.

Of course you'll continue post, what else does a rich boy that never has to work or struggle for a living with absolutely nothing to do have better to do? :confused:

You're not alone though that's for sure and there are plenty of paid GOP shills too helping you with the GOP agenda and propaganda.

Hopefully just like 2006 you guys are unsuccessful no matter how money is backing your nefarious undemocratic efforts.

You didn't give a timeline on the trust.

I suspect if next November's outcome is heavily Democrat especially in regards to the white house seat I "trust" you'll leave for the country of your choice. :cool: :thumbsup:

Just noticed your very sad sig.

Did Clinton start false war based on that lie?

No he certainly did not.

You certianly did not help your cause of being anti-Democrat with that sig.

All it did was show how anti-American you are and how much you hate Clinton because he makes your hero Bush look as bad as he is.

FU Dave you have no idea what youre talking about. I posted months ago the details of my trust. I havent received A DIME as of now of ANYTHING. Mom and dad were divorced when I was 6, and I lived with mom who was on and off of welfare while she went through nursing school raising two boys.

Through the years I never saw a DIME of dad's money. Not a dime. So FU asshat. Youre once again talking about something you know NOTHING about.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
I personally know 3 expats.

They escaped the heavy tax burden for the rich for countries that are virtually tax free.


But you've said you welcome the rich's exit, so whatever.

Glad you love America to willingly wave Americans out of the country.

Good, so when are you leaving?

As soon as my trust gets settled and distributed according to my terms.

I'll still post though ;)

Tell me Dave.
-------------------------
I guess GWB sold his lies to the Senate while he was governer!
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

I'll tell you thanks for letting the cat out of the bag.

I as well as many other non-resident Republicans certainly suspected you lived on a silver spoon.

You're not qualified to post on any of the ills plagueing America.

It doesn't affect you in the least and never will.

Of course you'll continue post, what else does a rich boy that never has to work or struggle for a living with absolutely nothing to do have better to do? :confused:

You're not alone though that's for sure and there are plenty of paid GOP shills too helping you with the GOP agenda and propaganda.

Hopefully just like 2006 you guys are unsuccessful no matter how money is backing your nefarious undemocratic efforts.

You didn't give a timeline on the trust.

I suspect if next November's outcome is heavily Democrat especially in regards to the white house seat I "trust" you'll leave for the country of your choice. :cool: :thumbsup:

Just noticed your very sad sig.

Did Clinton start false war based on that lie?

No he certainly did not.

You certianly did not help your cause of being anti-Democrat with that sig.

All it did was show how anti-American you are and how much you hate Clinton because he makes your hero Bush look as bad as he is.

FU Dave you have no idea what youre talking about. I posted months ago the details of my trust. I havent received A DIME as of now of ANYTHING. Mom and dad were divorced when I was 6, and I lived with mom who was on and off of welfare while she went through nursing school raising two boys.

Through the years I never saw a DIME of dad's money. Not a dime. So FU asshat. Youre once again talking about something you know NOTHING about.

But you are certainly looking forward to it. Hey you posted what you did.

You guys drill into me all the time.

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Good for mom. She made the best of it and got into a great career. Hats off to her.

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise. Interesting

That's why I don't undertand posts like yours.

 

Slew Foot

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You should see how many are fleeing California. More socialist and punitive the government, the more good people will take flight.

CA is seeing a bit of a "White flight". Asians still flood into the Bay Area, but illegals and Mexicans are taking over the central valley (at least until they all get foreclosed on) and parts of so cal. The middle class core is either graying or moving out.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You should see how many are fleeing California. More socialist and punitive the government, the more good people will take flight.

CA is seeing a bit of a "White flight". Asians still flood into the Bay Area, but illegals and Mexicans are taking over the central valley (at least until they all get foreclosed on) and parts of so cal. The middle class core is either graying or moving out.

Where are they going?
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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------snipped for space--------

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

But you are certainly looking forward to it. Hey you posted what you did.

You guys drill into me all the time.

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Good for mom. She made the best of it and got into a great career. Hats off to her.

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise. Interesting

That's why I don't undertand posts like yours.

Dave youre an asshole. First you say

"I as well as many other non-resident Republicans certainly suspected you lived on a silver spoon."

And then you try and sound sympethetic to my dirt poor upbringing. Asshole.

Then you say

"You're not qualified to post on any of the ills plagueing America"

And why is this? Because I've worked my ass off to get through college on my own, work my ass of to be succesful today? I know the ills. I've fought through them. But unlike you, I dont whine about it.

And then you post

Of course you'll continue post, what else does a rich boy that never has to work or struggle for a living with absolutely nothing to do have better to do?

All Ive done is struggle and work. Asshole.

And then you post

You're not alone though that's for sure and there are plenty of paid GOP shills too helping you with the GOP agenda and propaganda.

Once again throwing the paid shill in again, this time directed at me. A personal attack. As usual.

Then you post

You didn't give a timeline on the trust.

I did that intentionally. It's none of your fucking business.

And then you posted

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

FUCK YOU. you dont know why my parents divorced do you? No you dont. Im offended you would call my dad deadbeat. And he's dead no less. Fuck you asshole. I think this comes from your mom being a shitty housewife personally.

Then you posted

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Has nothing to do with it. See my post above. Dad made dozens of millions and wants to share it with his kids. You ASSume an awful lot that isnt true. Asshole.

Then you post

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise

Putting words in my mouth doesnt make it true. Where did I even HINT at this? Asshole.

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Mods: Why does this personal shit continue? G*damn this is ridiculous. You'll probably give ME a vacation for my language but Jesus. What about Dave? A fucking attack on every line.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
------snipped for space--------

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

But you are certainly looking forward to it. Hey you posted what you did.

You guys drill into me all the time.

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Good for mom. She made the best of it and got into a great career. Hats off to her.

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise. Interesting

That's why I don't undertand posts like yours.

Dave youre an asshole. First you say

"I as well as many other non-resident Republicans certainly suspected you lived on a silver spoon."

And then you try and sound sympethetic to my dirt poor upbringing. Asshole.

Then you say

"You're not qualified to post on any of the ills plagueing America"

And why is this? Because I've worked my ass off to get through college on my own, work my ass of to be succesful today? I know the ills. I've fought through them. But unlike you, I dont whine about it.

And then you post

Of course you'll continue post, what else does a rich boy that never has to work or struggle for a living with absolutely nothing to do have better to do?

All Ive done is struggle and work. Asshole.

And then you post

You're not alone though that's for sure and there are plenty of paid GOP shills too helping you with the GOP agenda and propaganda.

Once again throwing the paid shill in again, this time directed at me. A personal attack. As usual.

Then you post

You didn't give a timeline on the trust.

I did that intentionally. It's none of your fucking business.

And then you posted

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

FUCK YOU. you dont know why my parents divorced do you? No you dont. Im offended you would call my dad deadbeat. And he's dead no less. Fuck you asshole. I think this comes from your mom being a shitty housewife personally.

Then you posted

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Has nothing to do with it. See my post above. Dad made dozens of millions and wants to share it with his kids. You ASSume an awful lot that isnt true. Asshole.

Then you post

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise

Putting words in my mouth doesnt make it true. Where did I even HINT at this? Asshole.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mods: Why does this personal shit continue? G*damn this is ridiculous. You'll probably give ME a vacation for my language but Jesus. What about Dave? A fucking attack on every line.

Your the one that said you've never seen a cent.

I made no "attacks". Why you take it that way is your problem.

You guys "attack" me all the time, do you seen my whining and getting foul languaged?

Grow a set, you'll enjoy the "millions" all the more.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: blackangst1
------snipped for space--------

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

But you are certainly looking forward to it. Hey you posted what you did.

You guys drill into me all the time.

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Good for mom. She made the best of it and got into a great career. Hats off to her.

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise. Interesting

That's why I don't undertand posts like yours.

Dave youre an asshole. First you say

"I as well as many other non-resident Republicans certainly suspected you lived on a silver spoon."

And then you try and sound sympethetic to my dirt poor upbringing. Asshole.

Then you say

"You're not qualified to post on any of the ills plagueing America"

And why is this? Because I've worked my ass off to get through college on my own, work my ass of to be succesful today? I know the ills. I've fought through them. But unlike you, I dont whine about it.

And then you post

Of course you'll continue post, what else does a rich boy that never has to work or struggle for a living with absolutely nothing to do have better to do?

All Ive done is struggle and work. Asshole.

And then you post

You're not alone though that's for sure and there are plenty of paid GOP shills too helping you with the GOP agenda and propaganda.

Once again throwing the paid shill in again, this time directed at me. A personal attack. As usual.

Then you post

You didn't give a timeline on the trust.

I did that intentionally. It's none of your fucking business.

And then you posted

Divorce sucks and a dead beat Dad makes it that much worse.

FUCK YOU. you dont know why my parents divorced do you? No you dont. Im offended you would call my dad deadbeat. And he's dead no less. Fuck you asshole. I think this comes from your mom being a shitty housewife personally.

Then you posted

There are pretty tough laws against people like that now which sounds like that is what maybe this trust is? Don't answer, it's personal and no reason for it to be here.

Has nothing to do with it. See my post above. Dad made dozens of millions and wants to share it with his kids. You ASSume an awful lot that isnt true. Asshole.

Then you post

She also benefited from a system you seem to dispise

Putting words in my mouth doesnt make it true. Where did I even HINT at this? Asshole.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mods: Why does this personal shit continue? G*damn this is ridiculous. You'll probably give ME a vacation for my language but Jesus. What about Dave? A fucking attack on every line.

Your the one that said you've never seen a cent.

I made no "attacks". Why you take it that way is your problem.

You guys "attack" me all the time, do you seen my whining and getting foul languaged?

Grow a set, you'll enjoy the "millions" all the more.

ORLY? Wasnt it you who accused me of being a silver sponned kid? Your reading comprension truly sucks.
 

Slew Foot

Lifer
Sep 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You should see how many are fleeing California. More socialist and punitive the government, the more good people will take flight.

CA is seeing a bit of a "White flight". Asians still flood into the Bay Area, but illegals and Mexicans are taking over the central valley (at least until they all get foreclosed on) and parts of so cal. The middle class core is either graying or moving out.

Where are they going?

From what I hear, Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Las Vegas, Texas, and North Carolina for the most part. Places that are either cheaper than CA, or ummm... less Mexican.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You should see how many are fleeing California. More socialist and punitive the government, the more good people will take flight.

CA is seeing a bit of a "White flight". Asians still flood into the Bay Area, but illegals and Mexicans are taking over the central valley (at least until they all get foreclosed on) and parts of so cal. The middle class core is either graying or moving out.

Where are they going?

From what I hear, Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Las Vegas, Texas, and North Carolina for the most part. Places that are either cheaper than CA, or ummm... less Mexican.

Thanks

It will be interesting to see how California fares through the transistion.

Edit:

How many in California are illegals?

12-23-2007 Arizona city cops ask citizenship proof at every arrest

PHOENIX - Police in suburban Scottsdale have begun routinely asking for proof of citizenship from every suspect they arrest and turning those who are in this country illegally over to federal immigration officials.

The procedure was started Oct. 15, a result of the September killing of Phoenix police officer Nick Erfle by an illegal immigrant, Erik Jovani Martinez.

Scottsdale police had arrested Martinez on a misdemeanor charge 16 months earlier but they released him then because they didn't know he was an illegal immigrant who had been twice deported.

Clark said that in the past Scottsdale officers didn't routinely call ICE about illegal immigrants because the agency was short-handed and could not always respond.

That's changed, said Eduardo Preciado, an assistant ICE field officer in Phoenix. The agency was short-staffed until about a year ago when it added agents to man phones and to assist local law enforcement agencies, he said.

"Now we respond to every call," Preciado said.

 

jonmcc33

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Feb 24, 2002
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I was born in Germany so I technically wouldn't be an "illegal" there if I ever decided to relocate.