$117,000 average salary

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DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
you can make that much and more as an operator at an oil refinery.

You actually do have to work for it, though.

Exactly, but it is hard work, and dangerous at times -- plus extremely lonely. You work on large rigs and rarely see anyone you care about.

Longshoresmen travel but they rarely leave the ship when it is docked. Too much work to do and a tight schedule. Of course the benefit of that is that you don't spend your money, but chances are gambling will be prevalent on your trips.

Definitely a good job for someone young and unattached that doesn't want to get an education.
 

Siva

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My girlfriend's dad was a longshoreman. He hurt his back on the job over 6 years ago and is still tying to get compensation. On top of that they ****** up back surgery on him twice and he's died on the table once, so he'll never be close to the same again.

He did make mad loot while he was working though.
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: ys
Originally posted by: Noirish
it's a dull job. i've seen them in action. basically, you sit a couple hundred feet in the air, and look down for a few hours moving those containers.

$117,000 for playing 3D Tetris sounds good to me.

I seriously LOL'ed!
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: BoomerD

BommerD: how come automation still cannot take over these high-paying jobs? Not that I want to kill the longshoremen industry (heck, more power to you folks). But I would expect the company who is writing you guys the check be thinking of the cheaper alternative by using machines.

 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
you can make that much and more as an operator at an oil refinery.

You actually do have to work for it, though.

Exactly, but it is hard work, and dangerous at times -- plus extremely lonely. You work on large rigs and rarely see anyone you care about.

Longshoresmen travel but they rarely leave the ship when it is docked. Too much work to do and a tight schedule. Of course the benefit of that is that you don't spend your money, but chances are gambling will be prevalent on your trips.

Definitely a good job for someone young and unattached that doesn't want to get an education.



You have longshoremen confused with merchant marines. The longshoremen work the docks, and generally work at the same port most of their lives. The merchants, (ship crews) aren't longshoremen, but you have most of the rest right...many NEVER leave the ship in ports other than their home, UNLESS there's going to be a long lay-over for some reason. (Mechanical repair or something like that) and even then, there's usually enough work to keep them busy onboard the ship...
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: BoomerD

BommerD: how come automation still cannot take over these high-paying jobs? Not that I want to kill the longshoremen industry (heck, more power to you folks). But I would expect the company who is writing you guys the check be thinking of the cheaper alternative by using machines.

Well, a lot of it is automated...to a point, but there are still a lot of tasks that have to be done by good old manual labor.
SOme of the newer container cranes are heavily computerized, and each container has an electronic tag, so that as it's unloaded, the system automatically knows what it is, and where it goes. Still no way to do away with the operator, as computers can't factor in the sh*t that can go wrong, or eliminate human error. That takes a human eye and brain to evaluate things as they happen.
I worked at the USS Posco steel mill in Pittsburg Ca about 20 yrs ago, and their system at the time was being upgraded so that all they had to do was enter a number, and the crane automatically went to the right bin to fill the order. The operator did little except oversee the operation, and be there in case of something going wrong. Just a little mechanical failure (or electrical in many cases) can cause a BIG oh-sh*t...
 

lokiju

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May 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Chrono
Only thing is that it's rather unsafe because a lot of times they're up pretty high in the air with the crates or are vulnerable to being flattened by a crate.

I knew a guy who's father was a longshoredude. Apparently the only way in is by knowing someone...

When I was working a port before one of the containers fell and killed two guys.
 

DaShen

Lifer
Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
you can make that much and more as an operator at an oil refinery.

You actually do have to work for it, though.

Exactly, but it is hard work, and dangerous at times -- plus extremely lonely. You work on large rigs and rarely see anyone you care about.

Longshoresmen travel but they rarely leave the ship when it is docked. Too much work to do and a tight schedule. Of course the benefit of that is that you don't spend your money, but chances are gambling will be prevalent on your trips.

Definitely a good job for someone young and unattached that doesn't want to get an education.



You have longshoremen confused with merchant marines. The longshoremen work the docks, and generally work at the same port most of their lives. The merchants, (ship crews) aren't longshoremen, but you have most of the rest right...many NEVER leave the ship in ports other than their home, UNLESS there's going to be a long lay-over for some reason. (Mechanical repair or something like that) and even then, there's usually enough work to keep them busy onboard the ship...

:eek: Oops. Thanks for the correction. The More You Know. :music: NBC
 

Babbles

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Lyfer
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: ys
Originally posted by: Noirish
it's a dull job. i've seen them in action. basically, you sit a couple hundred feet in the air, and look down for a few hours moving those containers.

$117,000 for playing 3D Tetris sounds good to me.
Haha nice description... I lol'd IRL

Me too.:D

:D

 

ivol07

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I remember when the longshormen went on strike over here in California a while back. They were protesting a new inventory system. It would have been very easy to use....and very accurate. Apparently the system they have now is marking containers with chalk or paint and apparently a lot of stuff goes "missing". If I'm correct the union was able to stop the integration of the new system. Lousy unions.
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Alaskan crab fishermen can make $10k in a month if the catch is good. Of course, it is one the most dangerous jobs in the world, and involves working 20 hours a day or more if need be.

Like someone else said, there's no free ride.


I thought they made a hell of a lot more than that.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: ivol07
I remember when the longshormen went on strike over here in California a while back. They were protesting a new inventory system. It would have been very easy to use....and very accurate. Apparently the system they have now is marking containers with chalk or paint and apparently a lot of stuff goes "missing". If I'm correct the union was able to stop the integration of the new system. Lousy unions.

The "lousy union" was protecting jobs for it's members. THAT is part of why union menbers pay dues. The resultant automation would have caused lots of people to lose their jobs. Agree with it or not, protecting the jobs of it's members is what unions are a big part of what unions are for...
 

silverpig

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Jul 29, 2001
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I heard that the western shore guys make more then the ones on the east coast. And yeah, I know a few people who got into it here, but they knew someone... and yeah it's pretty sweet.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: ivol07
I remember when the longshormen went on strike over here in California a while back. They were protesting a new inventory system. It would have been very easy to use....and very accurate. Apparently the system they have now is marking containers with chalk or paint and apparently a lot of stuff goes "missing". If I'm correct the union was able to stop the integration of the new system. Lousy unions.

The "lousy union" was protecting jobs for it's members. THAT is part of why union menbers pay dues. The resultant automation would have caused lots of people to lose their jobs. Agree with it or not, protecting the jobs of it's members is what unions are a big part of what unions are for...

Um, when stuff goes "missing" it isn't due to user error... unions which protect theft by their members are basically criminal organizations.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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hmm, no union that I've ever been in would defend you if you were guilty of theft. You sound like the typical anti-union troll...
 

fitzov

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: compnovice
Originally posted by: rh71
if it's not simply dangerous, usually hard work / long hours make up for high salaries. It's not a free ride.

I would say a soldiers, police and fireman take more risks... but they don't command those high salaries... Labor Union FTW!!

Mob controlled labor unions FTW

Bah...no more mob controlled than our elected representatives.
 

pclstyle

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Alaskan crab fishermen can make $10k in a month if the catch is good. Of course, it is one the most dangerous jobs in the world, and involves working 20 hours a day or more if need be.

Like someone else said, there's no free ride.


I thought they made a hell of a lot more than that.


yep, they can do close to 30k in a month
 

Tobolo

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Aug 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Alaskan crab fishermen can make $10k in a month if the catch is good. Of course, it is one the most dangerous jobs in the world, and involves working 20 hours a day or more if need be.

Like someone else said, there's no free ride.


Somebody has been watching the discovery channel!
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: pclstyle
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Alaskan crab fishermen can make $10k in a month if the catch is good. Of course, it is one the most dangerous jobs in the world, and involves working 20 hours a day or more if need be.

Like someone else said, there's no free ride.


I thought they made a hell of a lot more than that.


yep, they can do close to 30k in a month

Half of that money goes to crystal meth so they can work the 20 hour days without falling asleep. :p
 

intogamer

Lifer
Dec 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: pclstyle
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Alaskan crab fishermen can make $10k in a month if the catch is good. Of course, it is one the most dangerous jobs in the world, and involves working 20 hours a day or more if need be.

Like someone else said, there's no free ride.


I thought they made a hell of a lot more than that.


yep, they can do close to 30k in a month

Half of that money goes to crystal meth so they can work the 20 hour days without falling asleep. :p

:laugh: