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13Gigatons

13Gigatons

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I bought a 4GB flash drive thinking it was actually 4GB.

I'm sick of lying marketing. STOP USING METRIC.
 
LifesABeta

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nvm yes what a rip off!

but yeah I thought with storage you never get what is exactly advertised, it's always a little less. I forgot why though.
 
zerocool84

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
I bought a 4GB flash drive thinking it was actually 4GB.

I'm sick of lying marketing. STOP USING METRIC.
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Where have you been in the history of computing??? This isn't anything new.
 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
I bought a 4GB flash drive thinking it was actually 4GB.

I'm sick of lying marketing. STOP USING METRIC.
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START using metric!

Gigabyte = 1,000,000,000 bytes

Gibibyte = 12???l3butts359 bytes.


 
13Gigatons

13Gigatons

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
I bought a 4GB flash drive thinking it was actually 4GB.

I'm sick of lying marketing. STOP USING METRIC.
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START using metric!

Gigabyte = 1,000,000,000 bytes

Gibibyte = 12???l3butts359 bytes.
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The metric system is based on 10's, gibibyte is a computer measurement/term which never caught on.
 
Krynj

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Think of it like this:

You build a nice big 9x9 closet. But before you can really start utilizing the space, you have to build some shelves, and maybe some hangers. Let's say you get 4 or 5 rows of shelf space. The shelves themselves take up space within the shelf, thus lowering the total available storage space of the closet.

And this is nothing new. Not sure why you made a thread about this in the first place.
 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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Computer people started using mega/giga/kilo in an incorrect way, but most of the population didn't pay any attention until after those terms became widespread.

Those prefixes describe powers of ten, not 2^n.



Originally posted by: FetusCakeMix
Think of it like this:

You build a nice big 9x9 closet. But before you can really start utilizing the space, you have to build some shelves, and maybe some hangers. Let's say you get 4 or 5 rows of shelf space. The shelves themselves take up space within the shelf, thus lowering the total available storage space of the closet.

And this is nothing new. Not sure why you made a thread about this in the first place.
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More like, you get plans to build a 9x9 foot closet, but the specs use 10 inches per foot instead of 12.

You're still getting a 9x9 foot closet, but because someone arbitrarily redefined the term "foot" at some point in time to something other than the standard, the result isn't what may have been expected.


 
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BigToque

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One of two things needs to happen:

1. Storage manufacturers need to report size in base 2.
2. OS developers need to display sizes in base 10.

Since computers run on base 2, the only logical solution is to advertise computer storage devices using base 2.

 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: BigToque
One of two things needs to happen:

1. Storage manufacturers need to report size in base 2.
2. OS developers need to display sizes in base 10.

Since computers run on base 2, the only logical solution is to advertise computer storage devices using base 2.
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Computers run on base 2, yes, but that's at a hardware level. Consumers don't need to see that, nor do they really care anyway.

For example, inches are now defined in terms of their metric equivalent, the meter, defined as "the length of the path traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second."
No one really cares that an inch is related to the number 299,792,458 in any way. They just see it on a ruler and use it.


 
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spidey07

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
1 Terabyte (1000 GB) hard drive is reporting only about 909 Gbytes in "usable capacity". :disgust:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7488/19908007.png
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Troll post is troll.
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I'm ranting about 4GB not being 4GB...what are you on about?
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*facepalm*
Go join the other wackos that lost their suit over being just this stupid.

You used base-2 and base-10 arithmetic interchangeably. BASIC arithmetic. Fail.

Next you'll proclaim that fox-edgar times -1 = edgar-fox.

Troll post times troll post = -1 or 1 or 0.
 
RadiclDreamer

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: LifesABeta
nvm yes what a rip off!

but yeah I thought with storage you never get what is exactly advertised, it's always a little less. I forgot why though.
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Its the difference between 1024 and 1000
 
RadiclDreamer

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BigToque

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: BigToque
One of two things needs to happen:

1. Storage manufacturers need to report size in base 2.
2. OS developers need to display sizes in base 10.

Since computers run on base 2, the only logical solution is to advertise computer storage devices using base 2.
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Computers run on base 2, yes, but that's at a hardware level. Consumers don't need to see that, nor do they really care anyway.

For example, inches are now defined in terms of their metric equivalent, the meter, defined as "the length of the path traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second."
No one really cares that an inch is related to the number 299,792,458 in any way. They just see it on a ruler and use it.
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I think I'll be unhappy no matter what happens... If the OS switches to base 10 I'll be pissed because 1024 will be forever ingrained in my mind. If the storage companies change the way they advertise, it'll likely result in a price increase somehow :p
 
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