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CrazyHelloDeli

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None of you care either way. Its all a charade put up by humans to try and prove to oneself that you are more than just animals who untimatley care for nothing more than ones own survival. You dont cry for the fallen on September 11th because you genuinely feel sorrow for the dead or their loved ones. You dont cry for fallen soldiers, you dont cry for dead Iraqi children, you dont cry for any other reason than the awful truth of ones mortality and the pointlesness of ones existance. You all claim the the moral highground of an aribtrary set of rules created by those who are unwilling to see that humanity is nothing more than a walking mass of carbon. There is no good. There is no evil. There of only fear and selfishness. You all make me sick.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: HelloDeli
None of you care either way. Its all a charade put up by humans to try and prove to oneself that you are more than just animals who untimatley care for nothing more than ones own survival. You dont cry for the fallen on September 11th because you genuinely feel sorrow for the dead or their loved ones. You dont cry for fallen soldiers, you dont cry for dead Iraqi children, you dont cry for any other reason than the awful truth of ones mortality and the pointlesness of ones existance. You all claim the the moral highground of an aribtrary set of rules created by those who are unwilling to see that humanity is nothing more than a walking mass of carbon. There is no good. There is no evil. There of only fear and selfishness. You all make me sick.


Monnbeam? Or an attempt to emulate Moonbeam? ;)
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: HelloDeli
None of you care either way. Its all a charade put up by humans to try and prove to oneself that you are more than just animals who untimatley care for nothing more than ones own survival. You dont cry for the fallen on September 11th because you genuinely feel sorrow for the dead or their loved ones. You dont cry for fallen soldiers, you dont cry for dead Iraqi children, you dont cry for any other reason than the awful truth of ones mortality and the pointlesness of ones existance. You all claim the the moral highground of an aribtrary set of rules created by those who are unwilling to see that humanity is nothing more than a walking mass of carbon. There is no good. There is no evil. There of only fear and selfishness. You all make me sick.

Speak for yourself. I care a lot.
 

CrazyHelloDeli

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HelloDeli
None of you care either way. Its all a charade put up by humans to try and prove to oneself that you are more than just animals who untimatley care for nothing more than ones own survival. You dont cry for the fallen on September 11th because you genuinely feel sorrow for the dead or their loved ones. You dont cry for fallen soldiers, you dont cry for dead Iraqi children, you dont cry for any other reason than the awful truth of ones mortality and the pointlesness of ones existance. You all claim the the moral highground of an aribtrary set of rules created by those who are unwilling to see that humanity is nothing more than a walking mass of carbon. There is no good. There is no evil. There of only fear and selfishness. You all make me sick.

Speak for yourself. I care a lot.

No you dont. Its a lie you tell yourself because the truth is too terrorfying. You care NOTHING for the dead.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: HelloDeli
No you dont. Its a lie you tell yourself because the truth is to terrorfying. You care NOTHING for the dead.
So you're telling me what I care about or don't? Oh man, you're a real piece of work. Now why don't you tell me again how the fallen would prefer to be swept under the rug, their sacrafice hidden from the public, their memory forgotten long before anyone has a chance to really honor them.
 

CrazyHelloDeli

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HelloDeli
No you dont. Its a lie you tell yourself because the truth is to terrorfying. You care NOTHING for the dead.
So you're telling me what I care about or don't? Oh man, you're a real piece of work. Now why don't you tell me again how the fallen would prefer to be swept under the rug, their sacrafice hidden from the public, their memory forgotten long before anyone has a chance to really honor them.


Yes, im telling YOU. The fallen prefer nothing, as they are dead. There was no sacrifice as life has no REAL value. You profess to speak for the dead, and denegrade me for speaking for the living. Of course, how could you, or even I, believe any other way? As clear as I am, inevitably, emotions overide the obvious truth and shield me from it, telling me it all MEANS something! Natures safety mechanism, insuring fear of ones demise, the endless circle of ones selfish survival!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HelloDeli
No you dont. Its a lie you tell yourself because the truth is to terrorfying. You care NOTHING for the dead.
So you're telling me what I care about or don't? Oh man, you're a real piece of work. Now why don't you tell me again how the fallen would prefer to be swept under the rug, their sacrafice hidden from the public, their memory forgotten long before anyone has a chance to really honor them.

Yep, according to the Neocons all Memorials should come down, afterall they are taking up valuable real estate that they could put up more properties that will add to their incomes that they avoid paying taxes on.
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: Pennstate
I agree that this is pure politics. Unless you are a family member, I don't think you have the right to use them. I say this eventhough I won't be voting for Bush.

If they have the consent of the family members of each person represented by a coffin, then perhaps they could go forward. However, consent of the family is not consent of the fallen servicemember, and I suspect that at least a fair portion of them wouldn't want to be used in a protest in New York.

Vultures.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: HelloDeli
[Yes, im telling YOU. The fallen prefer nothing, as they are dead. There was no sacrifice as life has no REAL value. You profess to speak for the dead, and denegrade me for speaking for the living. Of course, how could you, or even I, believe any other way? As clear as I am, inevitably, emotions overide the obvious truth and shield me from it, telling me it all MEANS something! Natures safety mechanism, insuring fear of ones demise, the endless circle of ones selfish survival!
If you are going to take that attitude, then you would surely agree that life is pointless and has no meaning. Let's just end all our lives immediately. You go first. ;)
 

Darkhawk28

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My only reaction to this is that is seems quite morbid. But then again, maybe Americans have been numbed to these sorts of tragedies.

An example, the Truth.com commercials that protest tobacco companies, with the thousands of bodybags piled up in front of a tobacco company building.

These folks may be trying to have that effect, but I think it'd probably backfire.

I hope they don't go through with it.
 

AEB

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I do sympathyize with families that lost members.

But lets not forget everyone in Iraq enlisted by choice, same goes for people who choose to smoke. From what i understand when you enlist in the military you essentially sign your life away (at least thats how it was 30 years ago when my dad signed up).

If i went to the army recruiter and signed up and recieved a big bonus plus a salary i certainly wouldt act surprised when i was sent to fight.

If there was a draft i would certainly understand their point.
 

Genx87

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Nearly 1600 servicemen died in each year of Clintons administration.

Where were the coffins then?

don't think it is playing politics with the dead soldiers. You can't hide from the reality of the situation that Bush created, and the fact is his decision did result in the loss of those lives. Whether or not you believe the loss was justified is another question.

I must have been in a dreamland when Saddam failed to comply with the UN and our demands.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: HelloDeli
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HelloDeli
No you dont. Its a lie you tell yourself because the truth is to terrorfying. You care NOTHING for the dead.
So you're telling me what I care about or don't? Oh man, you're a real piece of work. Now why don't you tell me again how the fallen would prefer to be swept under the rug, their sacrafice hidden from the public, their memory forgotten long before anyone has a chance to really honor them.


Yes, im telling YOU. The fallen prefer nothing, as they are dead. There was no sacrifice as life has no REAL value. You profess to speak for the dead, and denegrade me for speaking for the living. Of course, how could you, or even I, believe any other way? As clear as I am, inevitably, emotions overide the obvious truth and shield me from it, telling me it all MEANS something! Natures safety mechanism, insuring fear of ones demise, the endless circle of ones selfish survival!

Yes, as someone else already suggested, please off yourself immediately. You're simply wasting everyone's valuable time. Believe me, I won't shed a tear at your loss since it doens't mean anything anyway. Just because you're a nihilist (or are pretending to be one), doesn't mean you can tell me what I feel or don't feel. Got that? Good.
 

glenn1

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This isnt to honor our fallen. Its to use their name to play politics.

I don't agree. They're going to be having a procession of symbolic coffins, not naming names, showing photos, dragging the families into it, or anything else which I would consider in bad taste. Of course, I think it's ironic that the same folks protesting the war won't give a tiny fraction of that same sort of memorial to the 9/11 victims, but that just shows where their priorities lie.

If anything, for the viewers onsite, I think the display won't have as much of an impact since the procession will be so long the onlookers will be numbed to it after a few minutes. However, I'm sure someone will take a "long shot" photo of the procession from a few floors up, and seeing the procession of coffins stretch for several city blocks will be a powerful shot, IMHO.