10 Cars that can last to 200k Miles

[Arkaign]

I take any of these kind of reports with a grain of salt, ESPECIALLY JD Power (their long-term scrutiny is basically non-existent at only 3 year test period).

Anyhow, this is a CR roundup, and the top 10 are listed.

http://finance.yahoo.com/loans...r-to-death-save-31,000

FWIW, I have a Buick LeSabre with 195k and counting Cosmetically falling apart, but mechanically sound.

 

[T2urtle]

i believe it. but trading it in every 5 years will keep you in the loop with power and creature comforts.

10 years most 4 banger cars had like 120 hp and now a good amount of them area nearing 200hp, rsx-s, honda accord 08, and a whole others.


I'm disappointed my nissan maxima with the Vq30de isn't up there. won like just as many awards as the camry 1mz.

 

[Funyuns101]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
I take any of these kind of reports with a grain of salt, ESPECIALLY JD Power (their long-term scrutiny is basically non-existent at only 3 year test period).

Anyhow, this is a CR roundup, and the top 10 are listed.

http://finance.yahoo.com/loans...r-to-death-save-31,000

FWIW, I have a Buick LeSabre with 195k and counting Cosmetically falling apart, but mechanically sound.

For the lazy:
Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles:
Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4

Consumer Reports' "Bad bets" for making 200,000 miles:
BMW 7-series, Infiniti QX56, Jaguar X-type, V8-powered Mercedes-Benz M-class, Mercedes-Benz SL, Nissan Armada, Nissan Titan, Volkswagen Touareg, V6-powered Volvo XC90.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: T2urtle
i believe it. but trading it in every 5 years will keep you in the loop with power and creature comforts.

10 years most 4 banger cars had like 120 hp and now a good amount of them area nearing 200hp, rsx-s, honda accord 08, and a whole others.


I'm disappointed my nissan maxima with the Vq30de isn't up there. won like just as many awards as the camry 1mz.

Yeah those Maximas are really nice, still see tons of them on the road, and on craigslist/autotrader there are lots available with 200k+ miles. I think that says something

 

[InflatableBuddha]

WTF...I don't see the Accord, Camry or Corolla listed among the top 10. IIRC, Consumer Reports perennially ranks these models as having among the best reliability.

The rest of the lists seem to make sense.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
WTF...I don't see the Accord, Camry or Corolla listed among the top 10. IIRC, Consumer Reports perennially ranks these models as having among the best reliability.

The rest of the lists seem to make sense.

+1

150k on my 95 Camry and thats still with a lot of factory components (platinum plugs, some hoses, fuel filter, etc)

 

[desy]

210 on my 94 Chev Corisca, only major problem Steering Rack, runs like a top
200 on my 90 Ranger
180 on my 85 Bronco II

So, I guess most cars can make it to 200K as that was the mileage on those cars when I sold them, still drivable and all in good mechanical order.

 

[woodie1]

I would have expected an Acura or two on the list.

 

[Ktulu]

This types of reports are so fucking stupid. Any car model will last over 200k if taken care of properly. Of course some models will have problems, which is true with EVERY SINGLE CAR MODEL. This report proves NOTHING to me.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Ktulu
This types of reports are so fucking stupid. Any car model will last over 200k if taken care of properly. Of course some models will have problems, which is true with EVERY SINGLE CAR MODEL. This report proves NOTHING to me.

Neons don't last to 200k very well. My meticulously maintained Neon died with under 70k miles (cracked head). The motors were just garbage.

Most Cavaliers/Sunfires/etc were crap too.

I'd say most cars will make 125k-175k, but not a lot will do 200k. It's insane to say ANY car model will hit 200k.

 

[steppinthrax]

Somehow I knew before i clicked on that link all of those cars would be either (toyota, Honda, Nissan). And not to my surprise that is the case.

A big hoot for Toyota :thumbsup:

 

[DanTMWTMP]

As long as you take care of any vehicle, it is capable of running long and well. I suppose those cars can take just more of the avg consumer abuse (i mean, I hate it when people accelerate hard off of a red, and there's another red about a block away and are forced to break harder. idiots).

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Somehow I knew before i clicked on that link all of those cars would be either (toyota, Honda, Nissan). And not to my surprise that is the case.

A big hoot for Toyota :thumbsup:

Toyota... the masters of building an engine 10x stronger than it needs to be for the application

The crank in my 130 HP Camry could hold up a skyscraper lol

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Somehow I knew before i clicked on that link all of those cars would be either (toyota, Honda, Nissan). And not to my surprise that is the case.

A big hoot for Toyota :thumbsup:

Why do people still think Nissan makes quality cars? I see 3 Nissan brands in the bad car list and zero on the good. It's a crappy brand that relies on "It's Japanese so it's reliable"

 

[thomsbrain]

"take care of" means different things for different cars, though. for a Ford Windstar, it might mean 4 new transmissions, 2 new engines, etc. for a civic, it might mean new brake pads, a distributor cap, and oil changes.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Ktulu
This types of reports are so fucking stupid. Any car model will last over 200k if taken care of properly. Of course some models will have problems, which is true with EVERY SINGLE CAR MODEL. This report proves NOTHING to me.

Neons don't last to 200k very well. My meticulously maintained Neon died with under 70k miles (cracked head). The motors were just garbage.

Most Cavaliers/Sunfires/etc were crap too.

I'd say most cars will make 125k-175k, but not a lot will do 200k. It's insane to say ANY car model will hit 200k.

So because you're Neon and possible some other's you've "heard of" didn't make it to 200k automatically means none will, that's ridiculous. The people that I know with Cavaliers and Neons have been able to get them to over 200k easily but that doesn't mean they're indestructible either.

And I didn't say ANY car can hit 200k, I said ANY car model, there's a huge difference in that statement.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Ktulu
This types of reports are so fucking stupid. Any car model will last over 200k if taken care of properly. Of course some models will have problems, which is true with EVERY SINGLE CAR MODEL. This report proves NOTHING to me.

Neons don't last to 200k very well. My meticulously maintained Neon died with under 70k miles (cracked head). The motors were just garbage.

Most Cavaliers/Sunfires/etc were crap too.

I'd say most cars will make 125k-175k, but not a lot will do 200k. It's insane to say ANY car model will hit 200k.

So because you're Neon and possible some other's you've "heard of" didn't make it to 200k automatically means none will, that's ridiculous. The people that I know with Cavaliers and Neons have been able to get them to over 200k easily but that doesn't mean they're indestructible either.

And I didn't say ANY car can hit 200k, I said ANY car model, there's a huge difference in that statement.

As this report states, car models most LIKELY to hit 200k and its not ever arguable that a Dodge Neon or Mazda RX7 or lots of Mitsubishis(3000gt, Eclipse?) will LIKELY make it to 200k while Lexus LS and ES and SC and GSes(as well as civics, 4 runners, etc) making it to 200k is so common, it's boring.

Edit: also for whomever that asked, Honda had trouble with many Acura 5 speed auto trannys at the turn of the century and that might reflect in the fact there are no acuras on the list.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Somehow I knew before i clicked on that link all of those cars would be either (toyota, Honda, Nissan). And not to my surprise that is the case.

A big hoot for Toyota :thumbsup:

Why do people still think Nissan makes quality cars? I see 3 Nissan brands in the bad car list and zero on the good. It's a crappy brand that relies on "It's Japanese so it's reliable"

Nissan uses more plastic in the engine bay than any other auto maker I know of. Not just intakes plenums or radiator tanks either, but valve covers, heater cores, coolant hoses and connections, places you wouldn't ever expect or want to see plastic... can't even replace any critical hoses without breaking off brittle plastic barbs.

I'm surprised they don't have plastic headers and oil pans already...

What is just dumb is they (automakers) all are aware enough of these problems that when you order replacement OEM parts, the replacement part is made properly with aluminum or something, but year after year they continue using the plastic parts on production cars instead of switching to the revised aluminum parts.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Ktulu
This types of reports are so fucking stupid. Any car model will last over 200k if taken care of properly. Of course some models will have problems, which is true with EVERY SINGLE CAR MODEL. This report proves NOTHING to me.

Neons don't last to 200k very well. My meticulously maintained Neon died with under 70k miles (cracked head). The motors were just garbage.

Most Cavaliers/Sunfires/etc were crap too.

I'd say most cars will make 125k-175k, but not a lot will do 200k. It's insane to say ANY car model will hit 200k.

So because you're Neon and possible some other's you've "heard of" didn't make it to 200k automatically means none will, that's ridiculous. The people that I know with Cavaliers and Neons have been able to get them to over 200k easily but that doesn't mean they're indestructible either.

And I didn't say ANY car can hit 200k, I said ANY car model, there's a huge difference in that statement.

As this report states, car models most LIKELY to hit 200k and its not ever arguable that a Dodge Neon or Mazda RX7 or lots of Mitsubishis(3000gt, Eclipse?) will LIKELY make it to 200k while Lexus LS and ES and SC and GSes(as well as civics, 4 runners, etc) making it to 200k is so common, it's boring.

Edit: also for whomever that asked, Honda had trouble with many Acura 5 speed auto trannys at the turn of the century and that might reflect in the fact there are no acuras on the list.

Yep, I'd say it's a safe bet that there are many car models where very few examples make it to 200k, even with extreme maintenance. One only has to do a search online to see mountains of complaints about Dodge Neon/Stratus and other crap cars that are notorious for head problems well shy of 100k miles, not to speak of 200k. As for people that you know with Cavaliers and Neons over 200k easily, well that's unique for sure

There are lots of other lemons out there as well. Loads of problems with Hyundai Tiburons, etc.

Note : my idea of a car lasting to 200k involves no overhaul or serious labor on transmission/engine/electronics, etc. Just oil, filters, plugs, wires, brakes, and gas. My Neon before it died went through a knock sensor, ignition coil, 1 head gasket, EGR valve, and some electronic control unit that was related to the alternator. Some of it was replaced under warranty, but it was a huge hassle to take the car to the dealer, fill out paperwork, wait, get a loaner POS, go back to work, wait days, go back to the dealer, fill out yet more paperwork, get the original POS back, then have it break down 2 weeks later when it has only 33k miles on the clock. Dodge burned me so bad that I'll never look at one of their cars as long as I live. Of course I like their Trucks, and the Viper is legendary, but as a personal thing, I won't do it.

 

[jagec]

Ktulu: "Any car model will last over 200k"
Arkaign: "Not necessarily...for example, Neons often die even if taken care of, and there area lot of Cavaliers/Sunfires/etc that aren't great either"
Ktulu: "So now you're saying that it's impossible for a Neon to make it over 200k? lol"

Umm...easy there sparky. That's not what he said. He said that most cars can make 125k or so, but that there are many models that on average tend to die earlier than others, and he's 100% right.

Sure, you can find a few Neons that have topped 200k. But you can find a LOT of Corollas. I had a friend with a Sunfire...that car was TERRIBLE. My 240,000 beat-to-hell-and-back Celica was just as reliable, if not more so, than his 70,000 meticulously-cared-for Sunfire, which got terrible mileage, blew a head gasket, had brake problems, leaked, and was in general terrible. There's no excuse for that. It's just an awful car model. Maybe if he'd kept up on his head gasket changes and performed a transmission overhaul every other oil change, he'd make 200k, but the car REALLY wanted to kill itself. The Celica just kept on ticking despite being abused. The previous owner had an oil leak once, and instead of pinpointing it and fixing it, he just put a quart of 30W oil in every 80 miles. Once it was fixed, the car never complained again. I had a bad CV joint, and I kept driving it for 50k before selling it (in running condition).

 

[996GT2]

192,000 Miles on a 96 Accord and still runs like it just came off the showroom floor. Sound both mechanically and cosmetically with the exception of a very small (think pencil eraser) rust spot beginning to develop in the quarter panel areas from not being garaged in the first 5 or 6 years of its life...but that's relatively common in Hondas.

I was surprised to see that neither the Camry or the Accord made it on the list...not exactly sure why it is either

And KTulu, not all cars will last 200k Miles...even quality Japanese cars won't make it much over 200k if not meticulously cared for. For example, one of my friends' Camry recently blew its engine at 210k ish (terrible sight with stuf leaking everywhere)...now he's driving an 07 Pilot.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: 996GT2
192,000 Miles on a 96 Accord and still runs like it just came off the showroom floor. Sound both mechanically and cosmetically with the exception of a very small (think pencil eraser) rust spot beginning to develop in the quarter panel areas from not being garaged in the first 5 or 6 years of its life...but that's relatively common in Hondas.

I was surprised to see that neither the Camry or the Accord made it on the list...not exactly sure why it is either

And KTulu, not all cars will last 200k Miles...even quality Japanese cars won't make it much over 200k if not meticulously cared for. For example, one of my friends' Camry recently blew its engine at 210k ish (terrible sight with stuf leaking everywhere)...now he's driving an 07 Pilot.

Never said all cars would last 200k. Please read my post more carefully.

 

[theeedude]

Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles: Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4

So basically, all the cars I would get bored of after 20K miles and wouldn't want to drive for 200K miles in the first place.
I may consider keeping an MX-5 or a G35 coupe for 200K miles, and they are also good bets to make it there.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles: Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4

So basically, all the cars I would get bored of after 20K miles and wouldn't want to drive for 200K miles in the first place.
I may consider keeping an MX-5 or a G35 coupe for 200K miles, and they are also good bets to make it there.

Thats why they last 200k miles, because they are just used for transportation and not beat to shit

It's the same thing with the urban legend about the slant 6 being indestructible (compared to a V8). That wasn't necessarily the case, it wasn't really built any more special, it was just the nature that the people buying the slant 6 were not performance oriented people. As a result they expect much less and didn't beat their cars on a regular basis wringing performance out of them like someone with a V8 would.

Which makes me wonder why the Camry isn't on there. The Accord I can understand, it's popular and sleek and sporty enough for teens to want and pretend to race and rag on the car. But something like the Camry is an anonymous boring car that you find old ladies driving who never shift past 2000 RPM for 200k miles, compared to a sporty stylish Accord driven by some teenager that takes it to 9 grand at every shift.

You really have to look at the target markets for the cars when considering the reliability ratings. Someone who is cheap and/or lazy who buys a Neon or Corolla for $2000 and waits until the oil light comes on to change the oil and sees the car as a temporary and disposable thing isn't going to take as good care of their car as someone who just spent $40,000 on their Lexus pride and joy. Also the related demographics: that Lexus is most likely going to be in a garage and taken to the best mechanics and that Geo is going to be parked outside in the weather at an apartment complex and taken to Jose's Bondo Shop to be maintained as cheaply as possible.

With the exception of the Civic, most of the vehicles on that list are somewhat upscale, in the $25,000+ range, compared to some of the models that didn't make the list. The MSRP on the Land Cruiser is $56,215.

 

[MetalMat]

my 93 honda accord is at 166k miles, but I dont think it will last till 200k without some engine work.