10 arguments that can't be won.

[Demon-Xanth]

Enjoy

 

[Vehemence]

Cake or pie

 

[Kirby]

:thumbsup:

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Does .9999...=1

Does the plane take off

Is cheescake a pie or cake

What counts as "bulk"

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: dNor
Cake or pie

Bruce Lee or Coke?

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

They forgot some of the most dangerous ones a man can encounter:

'Does my bum look big in this?'
'Do you think she looks pretty?'

 

[Modular]

Pie. The cake is a lie!

 

[So]

:laugh:

Agreed. Maybe they are fun to have, but 99% of people are set in their ways and refuse to consider evidence that doesn't support their position.

On the other hand, I think that most people are loath to change their opinion publicly, but losing a pile of these arguments may cause them to reconsider their opinion in private and come back next time on the other side...

 

[DomS]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Does .9999...=1

Does the plane take off

Is cheescake a pie or cake

What counts as "bulk"

the plane does take off. Mythbusters covered that

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Btw OP

these are for you

 

[So]

Originally posted by: DomS

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Does .9999...=1

Does the plane take off

Is cheescake a pie or cake

What counts as "bulk"

the plane does take off. Mythbusters covered that

Yeah, that one is officially dead.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

toptenz just got pwned.

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[manlymatt83]

I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate how anytime you see someone saying "life begins at conception" there is ALWAYS a religious tie to it:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-cont...s/2008/11/abortion.jpg

What about those who believe life begins at conception but aren't religious!?

 

[dsity]

dead

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: dsity
dead

huh?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: manlymatt83
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate how anytime you see someone saying "life begins at conception" there is ALWAYS a religious tie to it:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-cont...s/2008/11/abortion.jpg

What about those who believe life begins at conception but aren't religious!?

Does anyone who isn't deeply religious actually believe that? It doesn't make much sense without positing a supernatural soul.

I just realized how :evil: this is. I shall post anyway because I mean it.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Here's one I can argue. If you are going to post something that's been dugg you might want to wait for the hype to go down, or the server to go down, because the page isn't even loading its so busy.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: manlymatt83

Originally posted by: dsity
dead

huh?

The site is dead. I got the 500 error before, now it's a network timeout.

 

[Tiamat]

site not loading...

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Top 10 Arguments That Can?t Be Won
Lists: All, History, Miscellaneous, Nature, Religion ; Written or Posted by: William O'Dell
Since the time of fire, man has had arguments ? rare or well done? Of course, arguments depend on your point of view, or in the case of husbands and wives, what the wife thinks. Some arguments are never-ending. Over the centuries, there have been some doozies that have kept philosophy students and teachers debating.

To be included on this list of Arguments That Can?t Be Won, the argument must have no clear answer that cannot be countered with another opposing view.

Disclaimer: TopTenz.net is in no way trying to lead you to think in one way or another. We are only trying to present the arguments in a meaningful context.

Evolution or Creation?

Theologists and scientists have been arguing this one for centuries as well. The argument goes back to the time when organized religion was almost as powerful as the monarchies ruling countries. When people starting postulating that the Earth was not the center of the universe, it gave way to the rise in questioning the idea of a seven-day creation and God?s role in creating the Earth. Enter Darwin and his Theory of Evolution and the debate truly kicks off with an unholy fevered pitch. Add in that there are many stories of creation across many different religions and your brain can really start to hurt.


Nature vs. Nurture
Does how you are raised affect your views as an adult more than what your genetic codes dictate? If your family has always been carpenters, are you destined to be a carpenter because of your genes or because of your familial upbringing? When identical twins are separated at birth and grow up to have identical tastes is that an argument that it has more to do with nature than nurture? However, is it nature to love spicy food, when that?s all that your family and friends eat?

Gun control

It?s not guns that kill people, it?s the bullets. In America, citizens have a right to bear arms, which has proven to be dangerous for many other citizens and police over the centuries since the country?s birth. On the other hand, large portions of the gun-toting population are careful citizens who have never crossed the law. Why should one group?s rights to bear arms be stripped away because another group feels unsafe? Or why should they be allowed to bear those weapons of death among a land of peaceful citizens?

Euthanasia
Dr. Kevorkian helped many people commit suicide due to their health conditions and their desires. His motives were questioned because all life is supposedly precious, but his patients wanted to move on from their frail existence. What if those patients didn?t have a say and we had the opportunity to choose whether they live in agony or die in peace by not giving them medication or a procedure? What is the better option?

The Death Penalty
Centuries ago, the prevalent rule of thumb was an eye for an eye, or in some cases, a life for a life. So the question becomes have we advanced far enough in our social and political structures to ban the death penalty? Or when is the death penalty justifiable? Is the death penalty appropriate for an accidental homicide? How about for a mass murderer?

Abortion or Pro-life?

Does a woman have the right to control her body by ending a life inside her? When is a fetus truly alive? Is all life truly precious? What happens when a woman is raped and becomes pregnant ? is that life still precious? There may never be answers to these questions; however, the government has helped us out many times by entering its own opinion whether the pro-lifers like it or not.

Free will or Destiny?
The free will or destiny argument stems back to the Christian doctrine that God is omniscient and has seen everything that will happen. So if God can see everything that happens, is it free will or destiny that makes you choose to continue reading? Some have argued that God knows you will read this but you still have a choice. However, if the path is already apparent to one being, then the path has already been decided for you. However, that directly contradicts our everyday actions where we constantly make decisions ? is something, a destiny foreseen by God, guiding us or are we truly free of the strictures of destiny?

Morals ? Relative or Universal?

Like the question of gun control, whether ethics being morally relative or universal comes down to whether the good of the one outweighs the good of the many. If it is fine to sleep with another man?s wife in one society but not in another, then the problem is that the morals are relative to the society or person. But why wouldn?t it be universal that it is wrong to sleep with another man?s wife or woman?s husband in any society? Why is it OK to speed, when it is breaking the law? Shouldn?t breaking any law be just as wrong? If you would never steal a person?s purse, why would you pirate a DVD?

The chicken or the egg?
Perhaps one of the most fun arguments on this list, the chicken or the egg debate has raged for centuries mainly because it asks the questions does the animal evolve and then reproduce or was it hatched? That debate can then be transferred to our own existence, which leads into the argument of Evolution or Creation.

Does God Exist?

Since the dawn of recorded time, there have been people trying to prove that there is a higher being or beings that have caused the worlds and its creation. Organized religion comes down to having faith that there is a higher being and a place to go after death. Most people, if not already deeply religious in their life, find religion and start believing as they near their twilight years because they want to believe there is somewhere to go and someone to be with. So the question is how do you prove that god, in which ever religion you believe, exists?

For those who can't see it.

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: manlymatt83
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate how anytime you see someone saying "life begins at conception" there is ALWAYS a religious tie to it:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-cont...s/2008/11/abortion.jpg

What about those who believe life begins at conception but aren't religious!?

Does anyone who isn't deeply religious actually believe that? It doesn't make much sense without positing a supernatural soul.

I just realized how :evil: this is. I shall post anyway because I mean it.

Yes, I do.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: manlymatt83

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: manlymatt83
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate how anytime you see someone saying "life begins at conception" there is ALWAYS a religious tie to it:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-cont...s/2008/11/abortion.jpg

What about those who believe life begins at conception but aren't religious!?

Does anyone who isn't deeply religious actually believe that? It doesn't make much sense without positing a supernatural soul.

I just realized how :evil: this is. I shall post anyway because I mean it.

Yes, I do.

Care to explain your position? Edit: Maybe Via PM, so we don't make the thread asplode.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
toptenz just got pwned.

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To be expected when you throw a site like us at them.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: manlymatt83
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate how anytime you see someone saying "life begins at conception" there is ALWAYS a religious tie to it:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-cont...s/2008/11/abortion.jpg

What about those who believe life begins at conception but aren't religious!?

Does anyone who isn't deeply religious actually believe that? It doesn't make much sense without positing a supernatural soul.

I just realized how :evil: this is. I shall post anyway because I mean it.

From-conception arguments do seem to always be religously founded, but there are non-religious reasons for believing a human is a person before they are born.

Many non-religious people believe that other people are valuable and should be protected. If you believe that a person is only a person if they are thinking (have meaningful brain activity in their thinking centers; not brain-dead) then I could see how they would believe that a human becomes a person about a month or so into development.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: manlymatt83
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate how anytime you see someone saying "life begins at conception" there is ALWAYS a religious tie to it:

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-cont...s/2008/11/abortion.jpg

What about those who believe life begins at conception but aren't religious!?

Does anyone who isn't deeply religious actually believe that? It doesn't make much sense without positing a supernatural soul.

I just realized how :evil: this is. I shall post anyway because I mean it.

From-conception arguments do seem to always be religously founded, but there are non-religious reasons for believing a human is a person before they are born.

Many non-religious people believe that other people are valuable and should be protected. If you believe that a person is only a person if they are thinking (have meaningful brain activity in their thinking centers; not brain-dead) then I could see how they would believe that a human becomes a person about a month or so into development.

Until it is born a baby is a parasite growing inside the host. Dr. House says so.