1 in 8 "Americans" recieve food stamps. Outrageous!

[alchemize]

Just another legal way of paying voters.

 

[spittledip]

Earlier this month I decided to finally try applying for food stamps after about 2yrs of being unemployed. They made jump through so many hoops trying to find every reason to deny me that I finally gave up out of frustration. My mother and father also tried going on food stamps (no pay from work for about 5 months) but they were making them out like they were some type of crooks and this and that so my mom just threw up her hands and said forget it.


Not trying to pick on anyone in particular but when I was at the local office trying to apply, there were so many people there (mostly hispanics). They were driving around in nicer cars then mine, had these fancy cell phones, 50 kids, wearing name brand and expensive clothing, etc. Just sitting there, I could tell most of them didn't deserve any help and probably never had a steady job in their lives. These people were all sitting around telling each other how they can work the system, use each other as contacts, etc.

After i gave up, i ended up turning in someone I know but don't really like for cheating the system. They were claiming 2 extra kids that don't even live with them, plus this guy was working another job that he didn't tell them about, so he was getting all this extra help that he didn't deserve. If he reallly needed help, he would sell $30,000 worth of atvs, boats and cars he has sitting out his house.

A few days after I gave up, I saw a news report that the federal government is really upset with some states because they are making it impossible for some people to qualify, including me.

IKt is true that alot of illegals play the system. My wife works at the DSS for our county and the tells me that the case workers have no way to verify IDs- it really isn't their job to do so. They just have to see that the people have IDs.

Also, illegals work under the table, so they have no record of income. They might be doing ok without the assistance, but as they ahve no record of income, they can abuse the system.

Also, if illegals have a child born in the US, they can get assistance through that child.

It is true that the system is messed up. Sorry that you had so much trouble with it.

 

[spittledip]

Just another legal way of paying voters.

This is true in some cases, but just b/c democrats hold power over certain populations with these programs does not make them unnecessary. You can't let people starve over politics.

 

[ericlp]

Damn, I was thinking about getting on them myself. So, all you people that are on them... How do you get em? I think the website says... "any working "ABLE" body" can not get on them. But I know a LOT of people that are on them that don't have kids.

I think I'm gonna make a game out of it and fill in all the forms and see what happens ...

 

[Capt Caveman]

No luxuries like milk and cheese for you sir. Get off the taxpayer dime, get off your lazy ass, and go find a job.

WTF! When did milk become a luxury? So, if you lose your job and can't find one, you and your children should starve?

 

[0marTheZealot]

lol, Hacp will be first in line for food stamps once he's off mommy and daddy's dole. Guaren-fucking-tee it.

 

[umbrella39]

Hopes the OP finds himself out of work and out of money so he can test his resolve.

 

[dmcowen674]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/us/29foodstamps.html?hp

I quoted Americans because we still don't know if they are all American citizens or if they are illegals. They pulled the same trick with the healthcare debate, saying 45 million "Americans" didn't have healthcare when a large portion of those 45 million were illegals.

However, going back to the main theme of the article, maybe this is why we're in a recession. We're spending billions of dollars so people can get fresh vegetables, fruits, and meats. NO! If you're on food stamps, you should be restricted to rice, beans, and multivitamins. No luxuries like milk and cheese for you sir. Get off the taxpayer dime, get off your lazy ass, and go find a job.

Qouted this despicable piece of shit

 

[stateofbeasley]

I'm going to push back on this notion that food stamp beneficiaries are cheats.

The reality is that for most of the poor and downtrodden who rely on government assistance, going on food stamps or other food assistance is something they would rather not have to do.

A local radio program from Philadelphia covered this:

WHYY Radio Times - 11/23/2009 Podcast

In the wake of a USDA survey revealing a sharp increase in the number of Americans going hungry, or on the verge of going hungry. Almost 50 million Americans are "food insecure," and the percent rose 3.5 percent from 2007 to 2008, and it's still going up. Joining us to talk about hunger in Philadelphia and the region are MARIANA CHILTON, Director of the Philadelphia GROW Project/Witnesses to Hunger at Drexel's School of Public Health, as well as two of the "Witnesses to Hunger," North Philadelphia's CRYSTAL SEARS and BARBARA IZQUIERDO, who participated in the project.

Listen to the podcast and to the North Philly residents interviewed. These women live only a couple miles from where I went to law school. They are poor, African American women living in one of the worst areas of Philadelphia, and they have to expend a considerable amount of effort every day to keep food on the table and children safe. They feel shame and humiliation because they need food stamps and food banks. They would like nothing better than to be able to provide for their children.

http://www.witnessestohunger.org/ - You can see photos of the poor in Philadelphia here. I challenge you to look at the photos and read some of the stories. These ARE NOT people who drive up in a Caddy to the food stamp office.

If you've ever driven or taken the bus through North Philly, you'd know that this is a place truly in need. I spent 3 years witnessing this part of the city. Mostly wrecked row houses, ancient, long abandoned factories, empty lots, and old cars.

It's not easy to be poor and hungry in Philadelphia.

 

[sandorski]

Everyone receiving Food Stamps owns a Cadillac(or better), has a Maid, a French Chef(that's how scummy they are), has a $million in the Bank! It's a FACT!!

Let them eat cake.

:whiste:

 

[JSt0rm]

If you've ever driven or taken the bus through North Philly, you'd know that this is a place truly in need. I spent 3 years witnessing this part of the city. Mostly wrecked row houses, ancient, long abandoned factories, empty lots, and old cars.

It's not easy to be poor and hungry in Philadelphia.

You do realize most of the neocons here hate black people and don't care right? They would look at those photos and see lazy black people. I'm just letting you know so when you start getting replies you aren't shocked. Ive been down that road.

 

[Craig234]

66% of Americans are overweight. And, according to the American Obesity Association, a research organization, poor minority women have the greatest likelihood of being overweight. Lets start by denying these overweight people food stamps first. If your BMI is greater than 20, you shouldn't be on food stamps.

Also, 99% of Americans own a TV. That means 99% of the 1/8 on food stamps own a TV. Maybe they should pawn the TV first before they get food stamps?

Of the people who earn less than 25000, over 30% are obese.

Just to make one tiny dent in the massive ignorance of HACP - I know, a waste of tiime.

A third of all obese people in the world live in dire poverty.

Poor people are very often obese.

Obesity isn't so much overeating as bad eating - the cheapest foods are nutrient-lacking and calorie-heavy. So poor people eat cheap things that make them obese.

It's not about spending too much that they're obese, but spending too little.

Naturally, I'd like to see people get a decent diet, and so I'm ifnd with food assistance providing for 'fresh fruits and vegetables' - and some nutrition education, too.

And until we get our act together on illegals, either really not letting them live here and giving up the benefits of their cheap labor, or letting them live here for living wages, I'm fine with their getting food assistance when needed while they're here providing the cheap labor we want as our system sneaks around the labor laws to let them work cheap, paying lip service to the law to deal with the immigrant haters, while not really enforcing the laws much so we have 15 million + people here.

With the hundreds of billions going to Wall Street tyrants and all our big corrupt industries robbing the nation in various ways, the least of our worries is food for the poor.

 

[alchemize]

This is true in some cases, but just b/c democrats hold power over certain populations with these programs does not make them unnecessary. You can't let people starve over politics.

I don't know what the ratio is, but my guess is somewhere north of 50% (probably 80%) of recipients of food stamps are not at any risk of starving.

 

[Red Dawn]

That's a miserable effort. That all you got?

People get fat when they eat lots of simple sugars and starches. You complain that they are buying milk and fruit and vegetables, but those kinds of foods have nutritional value, not just empty calories.

HACP and his fellow knucludraggers are morons and aren't aware of that, everybody knows this.

 

[Red Dawn]

Hopes the OP finds himself out of work and out of money so he can test his resolve.

I have a feeling he'd be charging to consume "Protien"

 

[dmcowen674]

Heh. Hacp - a compassionate conservative.

The only good thing about OP posts like this is it shows the true disgusting colors of Republicans and their supporters like Hacp.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I don't know what the ratio is, but my guess is somewhere north of 50% (probably 80%) of recipients of food stamps are not at any risk of starving.

I'd go even further than that. I'd say 99.44% of the people receiving food stamps are in no danger of starving. Its just a matter of priorities. Even some of the people saying they applied here still seem to have internet access. $50 a month can keep most people from starving if done right.

 

[Fear No Evil]

HACP and his fellow knucludraggers are morons and aren't aware of that, everybody knows this.

Please. Just stop. You are embarassing yourself now.

 

[nageov3t]

I'd go even further than that. I'd say 99.44% of the people receiving food stamps are in no danger of starving. Its just a matter of priorities. Even some of the people saying they applied here still seem to have internet access. $50 a month can keep most people from starving if done right.

in a country where we're paying farmers NOT to grow things, that anyone should starve is pretty much a disgrace.

also, hungry people are a lot more likely to lead to social unrest.

 

[alchemize]

I would say take all that money and instead provide food banks with very basic, generic food. If you qualify for food stamps, you qualify for nutritive, but not terribly tasty, government food. We'd save billions.

Can't have that, can we. Not only do people have a "right to not starve", they have a right to whatever food they choose to spend our tax dollars on! Get them all nice and fat so we can give them free healthcare for their diabetes. Our government is great at making our population even more like cattle.

 

[piasabird]

No Jobs = No taxes

I would be willing to bet that welfare is a very small percentage of the annual budget of the USA.

As far as budgets go if your state allows a high percentage of illegal immigrants then that state has to pay for their welfare. That is what states get if they choose to be illegal immigrant slave labor states!

 

[CADblather]

I don't know what the ratio is, but my guess is somewhere north of 50% (probably 80%) of recipients of food stamps are not at any risk of starving.

Woah, daddy!

That makes a lot of sense. Try 100% aren't at risk...because they are receiving food stamps.

 

[stateofbeasley]

Please. Just stop. You are embarassing yourself now.

What? Hacp was trolling. He didn't even read the article he linked to. Not only that, he ran away when it became clear that he had no real argument to speak of.

 

[stateofbeasley]

Get them all nice and fat so we can give them free healthcare for their diabetes. Our government is great at making our population even more like cattle.

Frak you.

Have you read anything in this god damn thread? HELLO? MCFLY? BUELLER??? Anyone Home???

People who have the resources to buy milk, fruit, and vegetables instead of processed sugar and starch ARE NOT GOING TO GET FAT. Nor will they get diabetes if they can afford to eat right.

Craig234 went over this already, I'll post it again:

Obesity isn't so much overeating as bad eating - the cheapest foods are nutrient-lacking and calorie-heavy. So poor people eat cheap things that make them obese.

It's not about spending too much that they're obese, but spending too little.

 

[alchemize]

Frak you.

Have you read anything in this god damn thread? HELLO? MCFLY? BUELLER??? Anyone Home???

People who have the resources to buy milk, fruit, and vegetables instead of processed sugar and starch ARE NOT GOING TO GET FAT. Nor will they get diabetes if they can afford to eat right.

Craig234 went over this already, I'll post it again:

You think people use food stamps to buy sensible, healthy food? Of course not, food stamps are part of the problem, created by the government. Ag subsidies are another. A fat, unhealthy underclass, reliant on the government for bad food, terrible schools, and soon medical care. Like cattle.

Nice selective quoting, by the way, ignoring my solution.