1 in 8 "Americans" recieve food stamps. Outrageous!

[sandorski]

I don't eat a lot of ramen, I already said before I eat a lot of rice. I already do this with rice I eat rather cheaply, I buy things on sale, I check all the ads especially the smaller local markets where I could pick up 10 to 15 lbs of potatos for a buck. It's not hard to eat cheap bud.

It's easy to say it, but go ahead and try it before telling others how easy it is. Subsisting on Rice, Ramen, or Potatoes can be done, but it is not Healthy. I suspect you're spending at least $1500/year on Food, not $500.

 

[bfdd]

No one wants to be given anything. They simply want the opportunity to study what they want. I agree there's a lot of bullshit degrees out there, but not every "expensive piece of paper" is a ticket to entitlement. It's merely a ticket to a better life. I wouldn't be where I am right now without my degree. My work is much more rewarding than welding boilers all day.

Much more rewarding than welding boilers all day? That sounds more like an opinion than any fact. Little tip the people that work in that kind of field generally are working on things to keep energy(gas, oil, electricity, etc) flowing to the rest of the country/world. Without them you couldn't do jack shit. So "rewarding" basically falls on your opinion. Maybe if you've actually done the work, which pays very well, you'd have a better appreciation for the people who perform manual labor.

Another tid bit, just because some of us chose not to go get a degree in some field doesn't mean we aren't intelligent or seek to learn. We chose to learn something different than you. I doubt you could hold a conversation on aligning motor to pump shafts with me.

 

[bfdd]

It's easy to say it, but go ahead and try it before telling others how easy it is. Subsisting on Rice, Ramen, or Potatoes can be done, but it is not Healthy. I suspect you're spending at least $1500/year on Food, not $500.

Of course I'm not spending only 500 a year on food, I'm not hurting so badly that I need to spend only 500 a year on food. BUT if someone had to, I'm pretty sure they could pull it off. I'm not talking about feeding a family, I'm talking about feeding yourself. It shouldn't be that hard there is always a sale and there are foods out there that are incredibly cheap. Hell I've seen 50 lb bags of rice for sale for under 20 bucks. In my rice cooker 1 cup of rice 1 1/2 cups of water = 2 cups of cooked rice. That's a shitload of food buddy. You mix in some other stuff you find for dirt cheap.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

No one wants to be given anything. They simply want the opportunity to study what they want. I agree there's a lot of bullshit degrees out there, but not every "expensive piece of paper" is a ticket to entitlement. It's merely a ticket to a better life. I wouldn't be where I am right now without my degree. My work is much more rewarding than welding boilers all day.

eh? What does studying what they want have to do with what I posted?

And no, a degree isn't a "ticket to a better life" - it does however afford you more opportunities to live a better life because many in the corporate world have bought into the paper BS.
It's actually quite funny you say you wouldn't be where you are today without a degree - since I likely would be in the same spot. I was in an EE program at Marquette but couldn't stomach the bill when it came due. I am a Senior Control Systems Engineer currently - something I wanted to be/do when I originally chose the EE path. Sure, it took me a few years of hard work to get here but I likely wouldn't have been in this position any faster if I'd have taken the first 4 years of my experience and put the effort into a piece of paper.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent - I just dislike it when people go around spouting their doom and gloom BS.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Of course I'm not spending only 500 a year on food, I'm not hurting so badly that I need to spend only 500 a year on food. BUT if someone had to, I'm pretty sure they could pull it off. I'm not talking about feeding a family, I'm talking about feeding yourself. It shouldn't be that hard there is always a sale and there are foods out there that are incredibly cheap. Hell I've seen 50 lb bags of rice for sale for under 20 bucks. In my rice cooker 1 cup of rice 1 1/2 cups of water = 2 cups of cooked rice. That's a shitload of food buddy. You mix in some other stuff you find for dirt cheap.

Not to mention that with a bit of effort(there is that word again) one could grow their own vegetables to add to meals(can, freeze, etc).
I've often thought about trying to make my family eat on a strict luxury free food diet but I lack the time and energy to enforce such a thing. But it would be quite empowering to see my kids actually have to eat their vegetables instead of beg for nuggets and mac&cheese.

 

[sandorski]

Of course I'm not spending only 500 a year on food, I'm not hurting so badly that I need to spend only 500 a year on food. BUT if someone had to, I'm pretty sure they could pull it off. I'm not talking about feeding a family, I'm talking about feeding yourself. It shouldn't be that hard there is always a sale and there are foods out there that are incredibly cheap. Hell I've seen 50 lb bags of rice for sale for under 20 bucks. In my rice cooker 1 cup of rice 1 1/2 cups of water = 2 cups of cooked rice. That's a shitload of food buddy. You mix in some other stuff you find for dirt cheap.

2 cups of cooked Rice is a lot, yes, but it is not Healthy. You're dreaming if you think people should/could live off $500/year. You're doing too much Paper Thinking and not enough Reality Thinking.

 

[bfdd]

Not to mention that with a bit of effort(there is that word again) one could grow their own vegetables to add to meals(can, freeze, etc).
I've often thought about trying to make my family eat on a strict luxury free food diet but I lack the time and energy to enforce such a thing. But it would be quite empowering to see my kids actually have to eat their vegetables instead of beg for nuggets and mac&cheese.

If I lived in an actual house and not a condo I'd probably be doing that. Not just for the food, but it would also be a pretty healthy hobby.

 

[sandorski]

Not to mention that with a bit of effort(there is that word again) one could grow their own vegetables to add to meals(can, freeze, etc).
I've often thought about trying to make my family eat on a strict luxury free food diet but I lack the time and energy to enforce such a thing. But it would be quite empowering to see my kids actually have to eat their vegetables instead of beg for nuggets and mac&cheese.

Gonna start handing out Land?

 

[bfdd]

2 cups of cooked Rice is a lot, yes, but it is not Healthy. You're dreaming if you think people should/could live off $500/year. You're doing too much Paper Thinking and not enough Reality Thinking.

I don't think so bud, maybe you should take a look at some ads and stuff. Food really isn't that expensive when you get away from 1. name brand stuff and 2. big chain grocers. A lot of the smaller grocery stores around me are incredibly cheap for all sorts of things, not just potatoes. Most of them cater to the large mexican population so I can pick up things like carnitas dirt cheap.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Gonna start handing out Land?

You have no windows? OK, then scratch the growing your own veggies - they are pretty cheap if you watch sales.

 

[sandorski]

I don't think so bud, maybe you should take a look at some ads and stuff. Food really isn't that expensive when you get away from 1. name brand stuff and 2. big chain grocers. A lot of the smaller grocery stores around me are incredibly cheap for all sorts of things, not just potatoes. Most of them cater to the large mexican population so I can pick up things like carnitas dirt cheap.

$500 can not be done Healthily, I don't care how cheap you can find things.

 

[sandorski]

You have no windows? OK, then scratch the growing your own veggies - they are pretty cheap if you watch sales.

How many veggies do you think can be grown in front of a Window?

Answer: Not many.

 

[bfdd]

$500 can not be done Healthily, I don't care how cheap you can find things.

How so? I guess millk would be expensive, but I don't drink a lot of milk. So I guess calcium would be hard to come by unless you were taking like calcium supplements. Look I think it can be done, that's basically spending 10 bucks a week for food on yourself.

 

[sandorski]

How so? I guess millk would be expensive, but I don't drink a lot of milk. So I guess calcium would be hard to come by unless you were taking like calcium supplements. Look I think it can be done, that's basically spending 10 bucks a week for food on yourself.

You first.

 

[bfdd]

You first.

I have more than 500 dollars a year to spend on food.... although maybe I will it would save more money for boozing and I really like booze.

 

[sandorski]

I have more than 500 dollars a year to spend on food.... although maybe I will it would save more money for boozing and I really like booze.

There ya go.

 

[bfdd]

There ya go.

I'm going to have to invest in a lot more tupperware or things like it to keep food in the fridge. I might actually try to do this, it would be much easier if I could grow my own veggies, but I'll figure a way to make do. sandorski, I might take up the challenge starting next year and try to document it best I can etc, we'll see what happens. I'll think about it though.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

How many veggies do you think can be grown in front of a Window?

Answer: Not many.

I never said you could grow ALL your needs. However, one could do it if they were in that situation.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I have more than 500 dollars a year to spend on food.... although maybe I will it would save more money for boozing and I really like booze.

Yeah, it would be a bit tough if I had to cut out beer. I brew my own from grain and while much cheaper than buying it, I certainly couldn't do it if it counted against the budget.

 

[bfdd]

Yeah, it would be a bit tough if I had to cut out beer. I brew my own from grain and while much cheaper than buying it, I certainly couldn't do it if it counted against the budget.

Yeah, definitely can't have beer and booze in the same budget as food that's just silly!

 

[Patranus]

Why hasn't this blatant troll been banned yet?

Fucking idiot troll.

Ah. Great point.
When you have no argument resort to name calling.

The OP mentioned the cost. I pointed out a very cost effective solution that anyone can afford if they make the *choice* to afford it.

Hm. Isn't your post against forums rules?

 

[Medellon]

Yeah how's that "War on Poverty" doing liberals? In the immortal words of Ben Franklin, If you want to end poverty make poverty uncomfortable.

 

[sandorski]

Yeah how's that "War on Poverty" doing liberals? In the immortal words of Ben Franklin, If you want to end poverty make poverty uncomfortable.

Much better than your Trolling.

 

[stateofbeasley]

Ah. Great point.
When you have no argument resort to name calling.

The OP mentioned the cost. I pointed out a very cost effective solution that anyone can afford if they make the *choice* to afford it.

Hm. Isn't your post against forums rules?

I looked at your post. You advocated 2 servings of Ramen per day as a baseline for feeding oneself.

There is no reasonable basis for this, in terms of calories or nutrients.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/soups-sauces-and-gravies/7980/2

Two 85g servings of Ramen would give the average person 36% of their DV for carbohydrates, and 146% of their DV for sodium.

Ramen is exactly the kind of food people should avoid. Its nothing but starch and sodium, which are precursors to diabetes and high blood pressure.

Although I found your post funny, I think that the truth of the matter is that you were trolling. No reasonable person could possibly make the ramen argument in good faith, given the publicly available nutrition data.

 

[VChuck]

Bfdd I survived on ramen for a few months,I suffered malnutrition,weakness,no stamina,mentally fatigued,lethargy.I would'nt recommend it,though.I agree with most of what you wrote. you must have some oriental influence in your life.Strange to see someone who closely resembles my own dietary habits.I have a rice cooker which I use everyday.Oh I get foodstamps too,not proud of it.At least I don't go hungry like i used to.Really SUCKED.
This is from personal experience.I have endured great personal catastrophe,one after another.Death in family,loss of income ,dignity,homeless,hunger,ridicule and The Almighty seen me through all of it.Did'nt post at A.T. during those times,only till just recently.

The OP does'nt have a clue at all.Oh it's past his bedtime,after all it's a schoolnight.