1 in 4 on Web Are Movie Pirates

[Ketteringo]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
virtually with only 700mb depends on your standards...and equipment. i used to play around with encoding, and u really need 2cd atleast to do near dvd. still detail lost of course. and ofocurse trying to add an ac3 5.1 track at 300+mb just wipes everything out.

That all depends on the movie (length, colors, amount of action, etc.).

Just do a 2 SVCD rip with 5.1 ac3 sound. As long as the movie in under 2 and a half hours then you are set. Completely indistinguishable from an actual DVD. Plus, they play on most DVD players.

 

[0roo0roo]

maybe on a lousy tv. on a monitor svcd reveals itself as dog ugly.

 

[adelphi]

"The video and sound quality are sh!t, and I can rent the DVD for $4."

guess u didn't noticed "SpiderMan.2.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD" released july 1st
but the mpaa sure did

how i support the movie industry conglomerates
sony (dru500a, dvd-rs) timewarner (earthlink cable)

last movie i saw after i d/l:
day of the dead 2004

worst movie ever i spent theater money on:
house on haunted hill

 

[stickybytes]

For me, nothing beats the video and sound quality of watching a movie at a good theater.

Of course there are little one's that don't give a fvuk about your experience at their theater and those are probably the one's you people are complaining about. I have been to a few theaters where people talk on the their phones as if they're on the street and people laughing like a clown. But those i usually only go once to try out and never go to again.

I usually go to the movies about once every two months, 6 times a year. I think the superiority of the video and the quality-surrond-realistic sound that you get a theater versus your home system is worth more than the 10 dollar admission. Or your piracy of the movie and the cost of burning them onto cds, or buying that video card with tv-out.

Just my two cents.

 

[Staples]

I guess I am three of the four. I hardly watch TV and very few movies (which I watch on basic cable).

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Amused
You know, theaters are a cut throat business with VERY thin profit margins. The only way they could cut prices is to cut services and infrastructure.

As for nasty people, I agree. That's why I bought a HT system and wait for the DVD.

eh...I used to go to a dollar theater in Indiana. The movies were 1-2 months old, but it was OK, decent screens, decent sound. Presumeably they made SOME money, since they stayed in business.

When I came to Seattle, movies were $9-10. Now, I know that the cost of living is higher here, they would have to pay their employees more, taxes are higher, and so on, but...I simply cannot believe that costs are 900-1000% higher in Seattle than Indiana.

 

[db]

The MPAA & RIAA both are extremely political and are spin masters.
Both those organizations say that every d/l represents lost money. But the fact is, not every download represents a lost sale.
-->Therein lies the Big Lie.

 

[OFFascist]

So.

Adapt or die.

We live in a capitalist sytem, if the RIAA or MPAA cant surive the advancement of technology then so be it.

 

[Bryan]

Originally posted by: SampSon

People like ME, what are people like me? Are you going to make the jackassed assumption that I'm defending pirating? Don't fall prey to these fallicies running through your head. Just because I say regal entertainment is evil doesn't directly imply that I pirate movies. People like me support the few local indie theaters that are still left. Thanks for trying to put that on my shoulders though, you shining moral warrior.

Regal doesn't have nearly the monopoly that you seem to think. Just because the company is the largest chain doesn't mean they're squishing the little guy. There's been a lot of consolidation in the industry over the last few years due to most chains overbuilding and going into Chapter 11. REG was formed from a merger of three chains in dire straits. Not exactly an 800 pound gorilla story, huh?

At the end of the day, your average movie theatre is now bigger and better than ever. Little indie houses are closing because people choose to go to theatres with stadium seating, reclining chairs, and all the bells and whistles. Consumers will ALWAYS go to great lengths to get the most out of their money. Can you really blame them (or Regal)?

And yes, I am a Regal employee. Happy to be one.

 

[leeland]

I am a little jaded at the movie companies that pay 20 + million dollars to a single actor just because they are in some eyes supposed to be the bomb...IMHO that is one of the reasons that ticket prices at the movies are through the roof...like someone else pointed out...all the rehashing of old scripts is just getting lame...just the same thing over and over again...I have downloaded a movie here and there and if I did like the movie enough I did actually go out and purchase the DVD from a blockbuster that is used.

To me it is just like baseball and the retarded salaries of chumps who are overrated but still somehow get the big bucks when they suck...and then complain and hold out because someone else is getting more money..

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Amused
You know, theaters are a cut throat business with VERY thin profit margins. The only way they could cut prices is to cut services and infrastructure.

As for nasty people, I agree. That's why I bought a HT system and wait for the DVD.

eh...I used to go to a dollar theater in Indiana. The movies were 1-2 months old, but it was OK, decent screens, decent sound. Presumeably they made SOME money, since they stayed in business.

When I came to Seattle, movies were $9-10. Now, I know that the cost of living is higher here, they would have to pay their employees more, taxes are higher, and so on, but...I simply cannot believe that costs are 900-1000% higher in Seattle than Indiana.

That's because the cost to rent the films are much lower after the initial big opening. That's why "dollar theaters" show movies that have ran their course in normal theaters and no longer show there.

Ordinary theaters barely cover the cost of the films with the ticket price. Most if not all their profit is made with food and drink.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: OFFascist
So.

Adapt or die.

We live in a capitalist sytem, if the RIAA or MPAA cant surive the advancement of technology then so be it.

Yes, we do live in a capitalist system. But capitalism has NEVER been about stealing the work product of another just because you can.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: v3rrv3
Your friend must be teh suck at pirating. Here's an example of a good release(which I'd say there is for a good amount of the movies) Besides being a little light, the release they put out was very good. The sound was great, no coughing, I closed my eyes I would just assume I was watching a VHS movie as it was in stereo sound. Take into account it came out a day after it appeared in theaters....

Spidey

Edit: I suck at linking

bahahhahaha, that's sucky quality.

 

[StageLeft]

I don't believe it, because I don't know anybody in my personal life who actually pirates movies except for one person, and I don't associate with people who don't use the internet.

 

[Gunbuster]

I got pissed when they started loading in the giant brown copy protection dots, and doing renta cop searches at movie previews.

now the neighbors wireless AP downloads movies :Q

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: v3rrv3
Your friend must be teh suck at pirating. Here's an example of a good release(which I'd say there is for a good amount of the movies) Besides being a little light, the release they put out was very good. The sound was great, no coughing, I closed my eyes I would just assume I was watching a VHS movie as it was in stereo sound. Take into account it came out a day after it appeared in theaters....

Spidey

Edit: I suck at linking

bahahhahaha, that's sucky quality.

It looks dark and sh*ty to me. Years ago some people on my floor were into downloading movies off the net. They started with such compression that a 2 hour movie would be around 150 megs. Anyway they sucked. I've seen bigger ones and they still suck. I'd rather not watch a movie if I have to watch it through a video camera that was sitting on a seat. That's just pitiful if you'd actually sit at home and watch that sh*t.

DVD rips/screeners are the only things worth watching. Otherwise just pay for it.

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: Amused
Yes, we do live in a capitalist system. But capitalism has NEVER been about stealing the work product of another just because you can.

Really? Thats the way they did it back in the day.

Didnt Edison steal a copy of that French movie about going to the moon and show it in the US and made all the money off of it?

 

[alocurto]

I don't know what they are all complaining about. At this point in my life I own more movies then I ever had. I admit it, in the past I have gotten movies off the web. If they are good I but them on DVD, if not I usually don't even finish watching them.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: OFFascist

Originally posted by: Amused
Yes, we do live in a capitalist system. But capitalism has NEVER been about stealing the work product of another just because you can.

Really? Thats the way they did it back in the day.

Didnt Edison steal a copy of that French movie about going to the moon and show it in the US and made all the money off of it?

Ted Bundy killed a sh!t load of women, but capitalism has never been about mass murder, either.

Using the work product of another against their will is anathema to capitalism. It removes the right to be paid for and profit from one's work.

I believe you're thinking of communism, since you seem to believe intellectual property is communal property.

 

[Freejack2]

We went to see Spiderman 2 last night. Cost us $14.50 for the two of us, (had to use the premiere passes as the movie is restricted until the 14th, otherwise we would have paid $13 to get in)

It was worth it though. The screen was beautiful and the sound was fantastic. Yeah there were some morons who didn't turn off their pagers or cell phones but it's usually drowned out by the movie.

We enjoyed a nice movie and had a late dinner afterwards. All in all a nice night out with the wife.


If we decided to download the movie as some people here seem to do we would have been sitting home squinting our eyes at some crappy video trying to hear what was being said. Some night that would have been.
I think the MPAA is make a big ado over nothing. Let people download their crappy versions of movies. I'll stick to the seeing it on the big screen or spending $2 to rent a dvd.

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: Amused
Ted Bundy killed a sh!t load of women, but capitalism has never been about mass murder, either.

Did Ted Bundy kill people to make money?

Using the work product of another against their will is anathema to capitalism. It removes the right to be paid for and profit from one's work.

IMO intellectual property < physical property.

That being said I'm not totally against copyright laws, however seeing how they are abused now at days I would rather not have them than have them abused in such manners.

Its my opinion that current copyright laws are unconstituional.

Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution says that Congress has the power...

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

Yes I suppose different people can have different definitions of the phrase "for a limited time," but I'm pretty sure to most people "for a limited time," doesnt mean the lifetime of the author.

I believe you're thinking of communism, since you seem to believe intellectual property is communal property.

No I'm not thinking of communism. I dont think "intellectual property" is communal property. I just merely treat intellectual property like I would any physical property. I'm against people stealing intellectual property in the sense that I'm against people stealing physical property.

If someone figured out a way to steal your intellectual property which then caused you to no longer have access to it, then that would be wrong. However there is nothing wrong with people copying physical property, as such I see nothing wrong with peoply copying intellectual property.

I have no problems with advances in technology forcing certain industries out of business.

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: Freejack2
If we decided to download the movie as some people here seem to do we would have been sitting home squinting our eyes at some crappy video trying to hear what was being said. Some night that would have been.
I think the MPAA is make a big ado over nothing. Let people download their crappy versions of movies. I'll stick to the seeing it on the big screen or spending $2 to rent a dvd.

Exactly.

You cannot get a theater experience at home. Even though I download movies I still go to the theater to see some movies on the big screen with clarity.

Just as some people who download music would still prefer to go hear the band at a concert.

 

[NeoHC421]

Originally posted by: MrChad
I still enjoy going to theaters for the experience. I have a nice HT setup in my apartment, but the screen and sound still can't beat a nice theater (although some HTs trounce the theaters).

I don't download movies because I don't see the point. The video and sound quality are sh!t, and I can rent the DVD for $4. If I really like the movie, I'll buy it for $15 on release day. $15 to own a movie legitimately (with premium picture and sound) is not a lot of money, folks.

sorry, but i don't have money growing outta my arse. it's true $15 MIGHT get you a new release movie, although it's usually more like $20-25, but it could also buy me a week's worth of groceries, pay my cell phone bill, or even buy me like a gallon or two of gas anyway, i agree that ticket prices are too steep, especially once you don't qualify for student discounts anymore.

That being said, i'd still pay to watch anchorman again... jazz flute... HAHAHhahaaHAAH
if any of you have seen the movie, i actually know someone who plays the jazz flute; he came with my group to watch the movie. We beat him down after the movie :laugh:

 

[NeoHC421]

Originally posted by: Ranger X
This just in ...

1 in 4 in jail are butt pirates.

hahahah...


i thought that 1 in 4 AREN'T...

 

[NeoHC421]

Originally posted by: adelphi

how i support the movie industry conglomerates
sony (dru500a, dvd-rs) timewarner (earthlink cable)

hahaha.... me too...