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zinfamous

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wow this is totally legit and absolutely not an ad parody

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man, I love Campari, and now I love it even more. :D
 

woolfe9998

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Is this the one that got Flynt sued?

Edit: Just looked it up, yep.

Oh yes. It was the subject of one of the most important First Amendment cases in SCOTUS history, where happily the court ruled that the First Amendment > Jerry Falwell. I hadn't read it in a long time though. Had forgotten how utterly hilarious it is. My thanks to pottedmeat for posting that. It brightened up an otherwise miserable day.
 
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shortylickens

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For those of you who think you're so clever:

Please keep in mind it only held because no reasonable person could actually believe Jerry Falwell fucked his mother.

If they had alleged he stole money and provided no evidence, Larry Flynt would have been sued for a billion dollars and possibly spent some time in jail. A reasonable person might actually believe Falwell had stolen money.
 

woolfe9998

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For those of you who think you're so clever:

Please keep in mind it only held because no reasonable person could actually believe Jerry Falwell fucked his mother.

If they had alleged he stole money and provided no evidence, Larry Flynt would have been sued for a billion dollars and possibly spent some time in jail. A reasonable person might actually believe Falwell had stolen money.

Yes, and that is as it should be. Actual malicious defamation should not be protected by the First Amendment because it is aimed at destroying the reputation of a specific person with falsehoods. The Hustler piece was protected free speech because the court deemed it to be parody, precisely as you said, because no one would actually believe it. Still, it was an important case because it protected our right to poke fun at public figures without fear of a lawsuit. This is a great American tradition which was being threatened by Falwell's legal action.

So think about it the other way. Suppose Flynt had told a plausible but very injurious falsehood about Falwell and had done it intentionally. How and why should he have been protected for that?
 
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Blackjack200

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Sensitivity to what exactly? It's based on, and commemorates, the family name of the person who founded the town.

Yeah, and the guy had an unfortunate name that lines up with a terror tactic used against black people for hundreds of years. Tough shit. Again, if a town in Germany were named Zyklonsburg, even if the guy who founded the town was named Zyklon von Zyklonia, it would have been renamed after World War II.

But no, they're still waiving their Nazi flags, praising their Goerings and Rommels, and wondering what the big deal is.

Sensitivity to what? Try a GIS.
 

Londo_Jowo

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I'll just leave it up to the people of Lynchburg, though I'm sure they don't feel the same sensitivity to the name that you seem to have. In fact in all the time I lived close to Lynchburg (30+ years) I never once heard anyone claim they were offended by the name. Then again most who lived in the region knew how the city got it's name.
 

hal2kilo

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Let me guess, you've never been to Lynchburg or central Virginia for that matter. There's far more to the area than Thomas Roads Baptist Church and Liberty University.

Now we are getting into PC ridiculous territory.

Edit: I guess anybody with the family name of Lynch should just go shoot themselves.
 
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Jhhnn

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Now we are getting into PC ridiculous territory.

Edit: I guess anybody with the family name of Lynch should just go shoot themselves.

Pretty much. This isn't like the Stars & Bars, a symbol created to support slavery. The etiology of "Lynching" dates to the Revolutionary war & it was British loyalists who were the first victims of extra-judicial hangings. It never was exclusively a racist thing, at all.
 

raildogg

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Aug 24, 2004
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What's with people boxing themselves into a stupid little corner and doing everything according to that stupid little corner?

Why does everyone who claims to be a "Conservative" have to believe in "God," guns, oil, strong military, free business? It is so bizarre.

I was listening to a radio talk host and he was talking about right wing this and left wing that. His views seem to side totally with how typical so-called right wingers think. It's weird. I mean, it's stupid to be honest.

Why do we humans have to box ourselves in to these silly tags such as right winger or left winger? I thought we're evolved and highly sophisticated beings that were above this stuff.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm sure that going to Liberty University is like some kind of episode of the Twilight Zone. If you submit to The Will Of The Lord in all things his priests will allow you a powerful talisman possessing magical powers- a handgun!

Jesus wants you to have one, after all.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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What's with people boxing themselves into a stupid little corner and doing everything according to that stupid little corner?

Why does everyone who claims to be a "Conservative" have to believe in "God," guns, oil, strong military, free business? It is so bizarre.

I was listening to a radio talk host and he was talking about right wing this and left wing that. His views seem to side totally with how typical so-called right wingers think. It's weird. I mean, it's stupid to be honest.

Why do we humans have to box ourselves in to these silly tags such as right winger or left winger? I thought we're evolved and highly sophisticated beings that were above this stuff.

You pretty much explained it. Humans are typically tribal, the larger the group the more likely tribal or group think mentality will occur. Humans are not rational And it's unlikely we will ever be as a species.
 

wirelessenabled

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What you just wrote could be applied to any college.

The hell if I would waist thousands of dollars on a liberal campus when there are better educational institutions that I can surround myself with that fit into my personal cultural and political beliefs. I've been to liberalized schools and they suck!

So where did you "waist" your money going to "school"?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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What's with people boxing themselves into a stupid little corner and doing everything according to that stupid little corner?

Why does everyone who claims to be a "Conservative" have to believe in "God," guns, oil, strong military, free business? It is so bizarre.

I was listening to a radio talk host and he was talking about right wing this and left wing that. His views seem to side totally with how typical so-called right wingers think. It's weird. I mean, it's stupid to be honest.

Why do we humans have to box ourselves in to these silly tags such as right winger or left winger? I thought we're evolved and highly sophisticated beings that were above this stuff.

It's another form of sportsing. sportsing team this vs sportsing team that. Your allegiance is wholly determined by an uncontrollable circumstance of birth: family and geography.

There is typically only one reason I would ever have been a Steelers fan and because of that reason, I default to hating Cleveland/Baltimore. It is in my "blood" and no amount of argument will convince me that this is not true. The same goes with religion and politics, because we are irrational creatures by nature.

Imagine if JC had grown up in Boston. He probably would have been an ultra liberal simply due to the reality of the world around him, the incorruptible "truths" which shaped his upbringing.
 

Rakehellion

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Pretty much. This isn't like the Stars & Bars, a symbol created to support slavery. The etiology of "Lynching" dates to the Revolutionary war & it was British loyalists who were the first victims of extra-judicial hangings. It never was exclusively a racist thing, at all.

Also, lynching was named after a person, not the other way around.