1/2 cup flour...sifted

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BoomerD

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Even "pre-sifted" flour needs to be sifted when the recipe calls for sifted flour. The extra aeration makes a big difference.

Keep in mind that unlike MOST cooking, baking is basically chemistry. You add certain ingredients for the chemical reaction they create.

DO NOT modify recipes "willy-nilly" unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Substitution of some ingredients can of course be done, but for a beginner...never...unless you don't want to be able to eat what you bake.

/me is married to a professional baker and has spent LOTS of time in the kitchen baking, washing dishes and pans, etc...with never a worry about the man-card.
 

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
shake the flour through a strainer onto a piece of paper or something.

measure 1/2 cup of that.

dumbass.

actually it is far more likely to mean take the measurement given, and sift that.

a food processor will work as well...i usually just use a whisk in a bowl. the idea is to aerate the flour and remove and clumps.

hmm I always thought you get a better measurement after sifting. sometimes the flour can come out in large chunks - if you measure that then sift you get more than you need.

but yeah weighing is better

weighing is, indeed, better...if the recipe allows for weight measurement.

i used to have a scale, lost it...and never considered getting another, and i bake pretty often, with very, very few issues.

i made pizza last night, have lots of cookies t make for christmas, and expect to make a couple of loaves of bread for some bread pudding.

its not lumps, its compacted. its just more consistent with the recipe measure if you sift. but yes weight is most accurate but most people dont use a scale. and sifting might make mixing slightly easier anyways.

with baking u follow that recipe as close as possible. else it just comes out wrong. not forgiving at all
 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Even "pre-sifted" flour needs to be sifted when the recipe calls for sifted flour. The extra aeration makes a big difference.

Keep in mind that unlike MOST cooking, baking is basically chemistry. You add certain ingredients for the chemical reaction they create.

DO NOT modify recipes "willy-nilly" unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Substitution of some ingredients can of course be done, but for a beginner...never...unless you don't want to be able to eat what you bake.

/me is married to a professional baker and has spent LOTS of time in the kitchen baking, washing dishes and pans, etc...with never a worry about the man-card.

My dad does this. He'll take a recipe my mom has made hundreds of times and make ingredient substitutions as well as amount substitutions. Then when it doesn't look or taste right he'll try to get her to fix it. 99% of the time it ends up in the back of the refrigerator all moldy.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: Lola
Whoa whoa whoa... spending time with your mom baking during the holidays is certainly not a reason to turn in your man-card. If anything, that should take you to like... gold status or something. From a female standpoint, I give you extra "man-points".

No, just read his post and think about it. He is helping his mother bake. He then has a question about a food prep term. Instead of turning to his mother and communicating, he runs off to teh tubes and post the question on ATOT. Kind of odd, don't you think?

Her and Dad went out to do last minute shopping, visit my aunt ect, I stayed back to help her get caught up on the baking.

I'm sure if she was here she would laugh and tell me..

I asked ATOT because than she won't know I didn't know :eek:

Oh, okay. So, you aren't 'helping your mom bake'. You are doing the baking.

Yep. Turn in your man-card.
 

Patt

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There is certainly nothing unmanly about baking. I baked about 12 dozen cookies this past weekend :)
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: Lola
Whoa whoa whoa... spending time with your mom baking during the holidays is certainly not a reason to turn in your man-card. If anything, that should take you to like... gold status or something. From a female standpoint, I give you extra "man-points".

No, just read his post and think about it. He is helping his mother bake. He then has a question about a food prep term. Instead of turning to his mother and communicating, he runs off to teh tubes and post the question on ATOT. Kind of odd, don't you think?

Her and Dad went out to do last minute shopping, visit my aunt ect, I stayed back to help her get caught up on the baking.

I'm sure if she was here she would laugh and tell me..

I asked ATOT because than she won't know I didn't know :eek:

Oh, okay. So, you aren't 'helping your mom bake'. You are doing the baking.

Yep. Turn in your man-card.

....

No, she asked me too, I'm only making like 2 things :p but last night she did most of the "getting the ingredients" so I did'nt have to worry about sifted/non sifted...

Also, you guys are getting me scared, how important is the "mix dry stuff, mix wet stuff together first" since I didn't realize the recipee required that till after I mixed it all at once. The brownies are cooking now, so we will see I guess..
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: Lola
Whoa whoa whoa... spending time with your mom baking during the holidays is certainly not a reason to turn in your man-card. If anything, that should take you to like... gold status or something. From a female standpoint, I give you extra "man-points".

No, just read his post and think about it. He is helping his mother bake. He then has a question about a food prep term. Instead of turning to his mother and communicating, he runs off to teh tubes and post the question on ATOT. Kind of odd, don't you think?

Her and Dad went out to do last minute shopping, visit my aunt ect, I stayed back to help her get caught up on the baking.

I'm sure if she was here she would laugh and tell me..

I asked ATOT because than she won't know I didn't know :eek:

Oh, okay. So, you aren't 'helping your mom bake'. You are doing the baking.

Yep. Turn in your man-card.

....

No, she asked me too, I'm only making like 2 things :p but last night she did most of the "getting the ingredients" so I did'nt have to worry about sifted/non sifted...

Also, you guys are getting me scared, how important is the "mix dry stuff, mix wet stuff together first" since I didn't realize the recipee required that till after I mixed it all at once. The brownies are cooking now, so we will see I guess..

Don't listen to the haters... props to you.

It is rather important to follow the recipe to a "T" especially when it comes to baking, because as Boomer said, it is a science. You should mix dry first because this will ensure there are no clumps or lumps of any one ingrentant. When you sift those and THEN mix with wet, things combine much easier.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: Lola
Whoa whoa whoa... spending time with your mom baking during the holidays is certainly not a reason to turn in your man-card. If anything, that should take you to like... gold status or something. From a female standpoint, I give you extra "man-points".

No, just read his post and think about it. He is helping his mother bake. He then has a question about a food prep term. Instead of turning to his mother and communicating, he runs off to teh tubes and post the question on ATOT. Kind of odd, don't you think?

Her and Dad went out to do last minute shopping, visit my aunt ect, I stayed back to help her get caught up on the baking.

I'm sure if she was here she would laugh and tell me..

I asked ATOT because than she won't know I didn't know :eek:

Oh, okay. So, you aren't 'helping your mom bake'. You are doing the baking.

Yep. Turn in your man-card.

....

No, she asked me too, I'm only making like 2 things :p but last night she did most of the "getting the ingredients" so I did'nt have to worry about sifted/non sifted...

Also, you guys are getting me scared, how important is the "mix dry stuff, mix wet stuff together first" since I didn't realize the recipee required that till after I mixed it all at once. The brownies are cooking now, so we will see I guess..

Don't listen to the haters... props to you.

It is rather important to follow the recipe to a "T" especially when it comes to baking, because as Boomer said, it is a science. You should mix dry first because this will ensure there are no clumps or lumps of any one ingrentant. When you sift those and THEN mix with wet, things combine much easier.


I thought that might be the reason so I made sure I mixed it really well with the beater so hopefully it turns out ok. :)
 

SMOGZINN

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
shake the flour through a strainer onto a piece of paper or something.

measure 1/2 cup of that.

dumbass.

actually it is far more likely to mean take the measurement given, and sift that.

a food processor will work as well...i usually just use a whisk in a bowl. the idea is to aerate the flour and remove and clumps.

No it does not. You sift flower before measure to help get a more even measurement of the flower, as well as separate the flower to help prevent clumping.
Pre-sifted flower still needs to be re-sifted when used.
Weight is a better way to measure flower.
The best cooks in history has traditionally been men.
There is nothing unmanly about being the baker man.

Every man should be at least a competent cook. It is an essential life skill.
 

RichardE

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Not sure if the brownies came out ok...


Mom is on her way home to drop stuff off, so she will taste test..

>_<
 

Baked

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You gotta be fucking kidding me... you've never watched 1 cooking show in your life?
 

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RichardE
Helping my mom bake..

*turns in man card :( *

Anyway, wtf does sifted mean in relation to flour? I just took 1/2 cup out of this big ass bag of flour I had.

does it say it's pre-sifted?

and, c'mon, there is no "turning in your man card" if you are baking. guys should know how to cook and do it well.

Cook, yes. Bake, no.
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: RichardE
She spit it out :(

:D

practice, practice, practice young apprentice.

She said they taste salty instead of sweet :(

She could have gotten a bite that was not sifted and there was a clump of salt or something in it... try again. That is the only way to learn.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
shake the flour through a strainer onto a piece of paper or something.

measure 1/2 cup of that.

dumbass.

actually it is far more likely to mean take the measurement given, and sift that.

a food processor will work as well...i usually just use a whisk in a bowl. the idea is to aerate the flour and remove and clumps.

No it does not. You sift flower before measure to help get a more even measurement of the flower, as well as separate the flower to help prevent clumping.

Weight is a better way to measure flower.
If you will be weighing flour, then "You sift flower before measure to help get a more even measurement of the flower" is a senseless notion. Weight is weight, be the flour sifted or packed down, and the entire point of measuring your ingredients is so that you always use the same amount of something. A sifted cup of flour will have less flour by weight than a packed cup.

It doesn't matter when you sift, and it doesn't change the fact that when you sift it does aerate the flour, as well as allows you to remove any clumps.

Ill defer to Alton Brown, from his book Im Just here for More Food (page 11), on sifting

Aerate your flour and leavening. I rarely add flour to a batter or dough that hasn't been aerated by a food processor, which I use in place of sifting. I never sift. Sifting is for people who don't have processors

Anyone familiar with Alton Brown will understand that he does his research and knows well what he is doing when he is talking about any form of cooking.

No matter how you feel about sifting/processing, you have to agree that weight is weight, whether something is sifted or not.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RichardE
Helping my mom bake..

*turns in man card :( *

Anyway, wtf does sifted mean in relation to flour? I just took 1/2 cup out of this big ass bag of flour I had.

does it say it's pre-sifted?

and, c'mon, there is no "turning in your man card" if you are baking. guys should know how to cook and do it well.

Cook, yes. Bake, no.

What's wrong with baking? (Which reminds me - I've gotta start baking and cooking to get ready for Christmas. I'm on vacation; wife works, that means the cooking part is my job.)
 

BoomerD

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There's NOTHING "un-manly" about baking...anyone who thinks so never had a man-card to begin with...
 

RichardE

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I mixed up sugar/salt

Put in 3/4 cup of salt instead of sugar and 1 teaspoon of sugar instead of 1 teaspoon of salt