1,000 Hatians trying to enter U.S. from Mexico. 40,000 more expected.

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Can you name a period in our history when an influx of immigrants, legal or not, was bad for our country?

Just because a people are not historically known to be radicalized doesn't mean they can't be nor does it mean they won't harbor those that are.
1492 comes to mind, tbh
 
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Paratus

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Brown people helped make this country great, and I too agree we should be a beacon of hope. So Im all for controlled, vetted immigration in supportable numbers. Im also for humanitarian aid to freshly deported people and for those who had the better sense to stay home.

Really? Because you came across as shitting your pants, (hence the code brown not the color of the immigrants skin) at the thought of taking in Haitian immigrants due to the hurricane. Maybe you assume appropriate numbers fit on one or two hands?

But glad to hear you support humanitarian measures.
 

agent00f

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It just like Hillarys plan to do away with the Second Amendment. Do you really think she is going to come out with her plan to limit gun ownership or to confiscate weapons PRIOR to the election? Bill Clinton passed the first Assault Weapons Ban which banned all sorts of things beyond "assualt weapons" including limiting hand gun and rifle magazines to no more than eight rounds. She supported that. Please find your own link, but I was affected by this ban in 1994 and know all about it.

Hillary will also appoint Supreme Court nominees which further her gun control agenda.

She doesnt need to be that blunt or obvious but she is easy to figure out.

What if we let them in but you get to shoot them?
 
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Brown people helped make this country great, and I too agree we should be a beacon of hope. So Im all for controlled, vetted immigration in supportable numbers. Im also for humanitarian aid to freshly deported people and for those who had the better sense to stay home.

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You want to slam the door on people that are suffering? You make me sick.

There has been suffering since day one of human existence. There have been wars, pestilence, genocide, famine, disease, etc. Every culture has suffered, including America. We have helped when and were we can and received assistance from other nations.

It's easy to be a feel good liberal. All you have to do is feel good about the easy answers without consequence. Put everyone on the government tit.

The people of Syria have to either surrender to Assad or fight, but a majority has fled. Part of it is our problem, sticking our nose where it does not belong. That should make you sick. Obamas poor leadership as president and Hillary made things worse.

Life under Assad is still life. What makes you think they will be happy here? What makes you think they will ever speak English and assimilate? Dont give me "feel good" answers, because there are none.

Another part of Syria:

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OutHouse

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So this thread was started with a legit story but the usuAL asshats turn it into a attack thread on the OP

No wonder this place sucks now.
 
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There has been suffering since day one of human existence. There have been wars, pestilence, genocide, famine, disease, etc. Every culture has suffered, including America. We have helped when and were we can and received assistance from other nations.

It's easy to be a feel good liberal. All you have to do is feel good about the easy answers without consequence. Put everyone on the government tit.

The people of Syria have to either surrender to Assad or fight, but a majority has fled. Part of it is our problem, sticking our nose where it does not belong. That should make you sick. Obamas poor leadership as president and Hillary made things worse.

Life under Assad is still life. What makes you think they will be happy here? What makes you think they will ever speak English and assimilate? Dont give me "feel good" answers, because there are none.

Another part of Syria:

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So you are using the "I'm a dumb ass" excuse? Because you apparently don't know your Syrian history very well.
 

FelixDeCat

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So this thread was started with a legit story but the usuAL asshats turn it into a attack thread on the OP

No wonder this place sucks now.

Sadly there is more no much fair and balanced conversation about much of anything. Just one side ganging up on anyone who is not a left winger.

It's still worth trying sometimes however to express opinions to the contrary, to get points of view across that are contrary to their own .
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FelixDeCat

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So you are using the "I'm a dumb ass" excuse? Because you apparently don't know your Syrian history very well.

I know Syrian history, I know world history, and what I said was true. There has been suffering all throughout human history and taking in world wide refugees in response to every single crises is wrong headed and stupid.
 

FelixDeCat

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Who gets to decide the numbers?

Surely Clinton has said what she deems reasonable so what's the problem?


If Obama says 10k, and she turns around and throws out 65,000 (six and 1/2 times more), thats the probem. Its not her place. Congress will decide who, what, when, where and how....if any.

I pointed out that if she manages to get elected she will likely push for millions and millions of immigrants worldwide and throw the borders wide open. She is a globalist. That is a FAR CRY from 65,000.
 
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If Obama says 10k, and she turns around and throws out 65,000 (six and 1/2 times more), thats the probem. Its not her place. Congress will decide who, what, when, where and how....if any.

I pointed out that if she manages to get elected she will likely push for millions and millions of immigrants worldwide and throw the borders wide open. She is a globalist. That is a FAR CRY from 65,000.
so you're just making numbers up to help fit your catastrophic scenario, is that correct? Or do you have data to back those numbers up, and I am talking about the millions.
 
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If Obama says 10k, and she turns around and throws out 65,000 (six and 1/2 times more), thats the probem. Its not her place. Congress will decide who, what, when, where and how....if any.

I pointed out that if she manages to get elected she will likely push for millions and millions of immigrants worldwide and throw the borders wide open. She is a globalist. That is a FAR CRY from 65,000.

This is the part that you are pulling out of your ass (which would explain the stench).
 

FelixDeCat

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Why is that a problem?

Do you not want her to say how many she thinks is reasonable?


I can understand where you are comming from WelshBloke. Angela Merkel took in 750,000 Syrians at last count and Hillary suggested 65k before Obama settled on 10k. As we all know some refugees are having a hard time adjusting to "Western Values" (Christian), and some have tended to rape, grope, molest Germans et. al., etc. It has gotten so bad that signs in Arabic and other languages are now posted in public places where women and children gather saying "its not OK" to sexually assault people to satisfy "sexual emergencies".

So I will acknowledge your point - Hillary was merely suggesting a figure at that particular time.
 

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So this thread was started with a legit story but the usuAL asshats turn it into a attack thread on the OP

No wonder this place sucks now.
Go find a safe space to cower in until the election is over.
 

brycejones

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So this thread was started with a legit story but the usuAL asshats turn it into a attack thread on the OP

No wonder this place sucks now.

Oh look another person who posts shitty threads and gets grumpy when they fail. Keep on keeping on.
 

Svnla

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FelixDeCat

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Thanks for posting that Svnla. But now that Victorian gets the link she was begging for where Hillary says she wants unfettered mass immigration via open borders....and all she can say is "sounds like capitalism". As if it was not obvious about who and what Hillary stands for after 30 years of being in the public eye.

As I said earlier Hillary is very predictable. She wants to make America more like a socialist paradise with extremely high taxes and an unarmed populace that is being over ran with immigrants and refugees. She has a disdain for self reliance and prefers the state pay for everything via socialist programmes.
 

brycejones

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Thanks for posting that Svnla. But now that Victorian gets the link she was begging for where Hillary says she wants unfettered mass immigration via open borders....and all she can say is "sounds like capitalism". As if it was not obvious about who and what Hillary stands for after 30 years of being in the public eye.

As I said earlier Hillary is very predictable. She wants to make America more like a socialist paradise with extremely high taxes and an unarmed populace that is being over ran with immigrants and refugees. She has a disdain for self reliance and prefers the state pay for everything via socialist programmes.

Just doing a reality check real quick:

1. Do you believe trump won the first debate?
2. Do you believe trump will win in a landslide (say by at least 7%) in the popular vote?