1,000 Hatians trying to enter U.S. from Mexico. 40,000 more expected.

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There has been suffering since day one of human existence. There have been wars, pestilence, genocide, famine, disease, etc. Every culture has suffered, including America. We have helped when and were we can and received assistance from other nations.

It's easy to be a feel good liberal. All you have to do is feel good about the easy answers without consequence. Put everyone on the government tit.

The people of Syria have to either surrender to Assad or fight, but a majority has fled. Part of it is our problem, sticking our nose where it does not belong. That should make you sick. Obamas poor leadership as president and Hillary made things worse.

Life under Assad is still life. What makes you think they will be happy here? What makes you think they will ever speak English and assimilate? Dont give me "feel good" answers, because there are none.

Another part of Syria:

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Then why are you complaining? Just suck it up, suffering happens.
 

FelixDeCat

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Hillary used to be against illegal immigration, just like Trump. Now that she's been bought by Soros and Saudi Arabia she is all for illegal immigration and "refugees" (preferably of the moslem flavor). As Felix said, she will import millions of "refugees."


Thank you AnonymouseUser. She says things to appease audiences she really does not mean, and winds up doing another. She will be a net importer, not net deporter of illegal aliens, refugees and the associated problems they bring with them. America has enough problems already.
 
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agent00f

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Thanks for posting that Svnla. But now that Victorian gets the link she was begging for where Hillary says she wants unfettered mass immigration via open borders....and all she can say is "sounds like capitalism". As if it was not obvious about who and what Hillary stands for after 30 years of being in the public eye.

As I said earlier Hillary is very predictable. She wants to make America more like a socialist paradise with extremely high taxes and an unarmed populace that is being over ran with immigrants and refugees. She has a disdain for self reliance and prefers the state pay for everything via socialist programmes.

I know Syrian history, I know world history, and what I said was true. There has been suffering all throughout human history and taking in world wide refugees in response to every single crises is wrong headed and stupid.

That is the problem here. You & friends believe they know this and that, yet can't even grasp what a free market implies for movement of labor. It's a certainty that all those teachers for all those years had their opinion on the matter, which is why your lot choose to disregard&dismiss them too.

Provided some context it's easy to see why any outlet which compliments morons on their smarts will always do alright.
 

FelixDeCat

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That is the problem here. You & friends believe they know this and that, yet can't even grasp what a free market implies for movement of labor. It's a certainty that all those teachers for all those years had their opinion on the matter, which is why your lot choose to disregard&dismiss them too.

Provided some context it's easy to see why any outlet which compliments morons on their smarts will always do alright.

Umm hmmm. Besides making your accusation the next logical thing to have done would been to point out what you think about the implications of free market movement of labor and what you see as the benefits of open borders.

There are positive and negative aspects to everything in life. There are benefits to free trade as well as drawbacks. But nowhere in this discussion of free trade should there be mass immigration within a short time frame due to some sort of political, natural or economic crises. That is a separate issue dealing only with the matter of open borders and illegal immigration.

Free market capitalism can be accomplished without immigration of workforces from one land to another. In fact - the first goal of any deal should be to benefit the PERMANENT inhabitants of cooperating nations. This is the type of deal I can and do support.
 

ivwshane

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Umm hmmm. Besides making your accusation the next logical thing to have done would been to point out what you think about the implications of free market movement of labor and what you see as the benefits of open borders.

There are positive and negative aspects to everything in life. There are benefits to free trade as well as drawbacks. But nowhere in this discussion of free trade should there be mass immigration within a short time frame due to some sort of political, natural or economic crises. That is a separate issue dealing only with the matter of open borders and illegal immigration.

Free market capitalism can be accomplished without immigration of workforces from one land to another. In fact - the first goal of any deal should be to benefit the PERMANENT inhabitants of cooperating nations. This is the type of deal I can and do support.

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that 65k people equals mass immigration when our country has 300+ million people and almost 4 million babies are born every year but I suspect you can justify anything.
 
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agent00f

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Umm hmmm. Besides making your accusation the next logical thing to have done would been to point out what you think about the implications of free market movement of labor and what you see as the benefits of open borders.

There are positive and negative aspects to everything in life. There are benefits to free trade as well as drawbacks. But nowhere in this discussion of free trade should there be mass immigration within a short time frame due to some sort of political, natural or economic crises. That is a separate issue dealing only with the matter of open borders and illegal immigration.

Free market capitalism can be accomplished without immigration of workforces from one land to another. In fact - the first goal of any deal should be to benefit the PERMANENT inhabitants of cooperating nations. This is the type of deal I can and do support.

I'm informing you of what a free market in terms of capitalism is. Evidently it's one of those things a lot of people often talk about yet not many of them know the definition. And also evidently you support government imposed restrictions against free movement/association/hiring like some kind of socialist.
 

JSt0rm

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Deny it all you like, in the meantime we shall build a wall. The American people are fed up with things as they are and mass immigration will make it worse.


Who are these american people? Are liberals considered american people?
 

brycejones

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Who are these american people? Are liberals considered american people?

Of course not silly liberal, you should get your sorry, no good keister across the border to some liberal "paradise" like Mexico. America for Real Americans only!


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Can you name a period in our history when an influx of immigrants, legal or not, was bad for our country?

Just because a people are not historically known to be radicalized doesn't mean they can't be nor does it mean they won't harbor those that are.

Current ones from mexico tend to lower wages. But since they will vote for Democrats I guess your ok with lower pay.
 

agent00f

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Citation?

Presumably he means illegal mexican immigrants lowers his wages, not necessarily yours. I imagine including the mexican part is really important, to distinguish them from good old fashioned immigrants from ireland/poland or such.
 

FelixDeCat

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still waiting on the data backing up your 'millions' claim.

This is an intelligent extrapolation based on available data. Clinton owned up to her wiki leaks comment about public and private opinions during the debate last night saying "Abraham Lincoln did the same thing". Publicly she holds back somewhat on letting millions in. Privately it is easy to determine she would have no qualms about erasing our borders completely, which would allow the migration of millions more into America.
 
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This is an intelligent extrapolation based on available data. Clinton owned up to her wiki leaks comment about public and private opinions during the debate last night saying "Abraham Lincoln did the same thing". Publicly she holds back somewhat on letting millions in. Private it is easy to determine should would have no qualms erasing our borders completely, which would allow the migration of millions more into America.

so that's a no, you have no actual numbers to back up your claim. albeit a long-winded 'no'
 

brycejones

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This is an intelligent extrapolation based on available data. Clinton owned up to her wiki leaks comment about public and private opinions during the debate last night saying "Abraham Lincoln did the same thing". Publicly she holds back somewhat on letting millions in. Privately it is easy to determine she would have no qualms about erasing our borders completely, which would allow the migration of millions more into America.

After all that it comes down to you've got nothing.
 

FelixDeCat

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After all that it comes down to you've got nothing.

You are the kind of person who waits until its too late. Fine. But we Americans must stop this mass migration nonsense BEFORE it happens. Surely you can agree with me on that.
 

brycejones

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You are the kind of person who waits until its too late. Fine. But we Americans must stop this mass migration nonsense BEFORE it happens. Surely you can agree with me on that.

Maybe you would be more persuasive if you weren't making things up. But no, I don't share your fear of immigration.
 

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Nice idea, but the potential of the country is determined by the potential of the residents. Unfortunately, Haiti is full of Haitians.





You just got off a month long vacation for these racist posts and here you are again.


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