0% on my research paper

[nanette1985]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Chryso
The only logical course of action is to seduce the librarian.

lol

As a librarian I can say that does not happen nearly as often as we would like.

:beer: this makes my day!

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
This is not college, it's high school (senior)

In other words, none of this really matters.

I walk into her office, and the moment I walk in, she doesn't listen to me and just talks about how irresponsible my behavior was for not turning in my work. I find this incredibly uncalled for since she's like 35 years older than me and a "professional." I tried to tell her that I gave her assistant my assignment and that she could ask him to attest to me giving the work on time, but she said that she gets "everything that is put into her mailbox." So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Typical rookie mistake, thinking in terms of "im right, and everyone else is wrong."

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

LOL, I suppose this level of maturity is only to be expected from someone in highschool. Seriously, this will never work the way you think it will. From now until the end of time, there will never be a situation that works out this way. Do not do this again as it will fail Every. Single. Time. You are not proving anything and at best, the other party will simply laugh off your immaturity. More likely, you do harm to your cause, whatever it may be.

I walk to the library where her assistant is (she's in the meantime following behind me probably whispering more comments about me) and I ask him WHILE the librarian woman is listening: "Do you remember me giving you my assignment?" He said YES.

The librarian woman says to me that she will THINK about grading my assignment. I think that this is bull but assume that she will be a professional and grade my assignment since there was undeniable proof that I turned my work in on time. Needless to say, I just got an e-mail from my teacher saying that I got a 0% on 15% of my research paper. Not only did he say that I got a 0%, he also said that "an apology to Ms. ------------------ is in order."

Welcome to life. Shit sucks and people with authority can and will fuck you over at their discretion. Being right means dick all while a faked apology probably would've gotten you the grade.

I'm seriously considering complaining to the school about her because this was absolutely uncalled for (and 2 other students who went into the library to talk with her about their 0%'s were told off as well)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so your whiney bitch fest will probably pan out. I'd still say the important lesson to take away from this is not to be such a brat to begin with. (after all, think if SHE wasn't being such a bitch, you wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.. )

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

See if you can contact the other 0% students. Tell them not to back down - if all of you are complaining, then something will be done about it. You have to be the leader in a situation like this if no one else is going to be.

 

[mugs]

Grow up

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: XylitolSo I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

You could have won, but you had to be a tough guy, and now she's going to show you who's in charge. All you had to do was let her have her say, then reply politely.

 

[imported_Champ]

shes a librarian...they have one mortal enemy and that is loud noises

go into her library and start making loud and annoying sounds...or even better there was something posted here a while ago that basically looked like a box with a magnet and when you remove the magnet it made random noises at random interverils making it difficult to track

that will teach her

 

[DangerAardvark]

I hate librarians. Who's with me?

 

[imported_Imp]

Talk to the principal, move on up. That is bullshit, and I can't really criticize you for the outburst, cause I've done it before to a vice-principal for being a bitch. She was new and I didn't know who she was at the time. Luckily, she wasn't grading anything.

The best thing to do would just be to fake an apology.

 

[tranceport]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
#1 - Talk to the dean/principal.

#2 - I hate the word "rubric". It's the stupidest word ever.

#3 - When all else fails, get parents involved. Make the school hate you.

#1 and #3.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
This is not college, it's high school (senior)

In other words, none of this really matters.

I walk into her office, and the moment I walk in, she doesn't listen to me and just talks about how irresponsible my behavior was for not turning in my work. I find this incredibly uncalled for since she's like 35 years older than me and a "professional." I tried to tell her that I gave her assistant my assignment and that she could ask him to attest to me giving the work on time, but she said that she gets "everything that is put into her mailbox." So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Typical rookie mistake, thinking in terms of "im right, and everyone else is wrong."

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

LOL, I suppose this level of maturity is only to be expected from someone in highschool. Seriously, this will never work the way you think it will. From now until the end of time, there will never be a situation that works out this way. Do not do this again as it will fail Every. Single. Time. You are not proving anything and at best, the other party will simply laugh off your immaturity. More likely, you do harm to your cause, whatever it may be.

I walk to the library where her assistant is (she's in the meantime following behind me probably whispering more comments about me) and I ask him WHILE the librarian woman is listening: "Do you remember me giving you my assignment?" He said YES.

The librarian woman says to me that she will THINK about grading my assignment. I think that this is bull but assume that she will be a professional and grade my assignment since there was undeniable proof that I turned my work in on time. Needless to say, I just got an e-mail from my teacher saying that I got a 0% on 15% of my research paper. Not only did he say that I got a 0%, he also said that "an apology to Ms. ------------------ is in order."

Welcome to life. Shit sucks and people with authority can and will fuck you over at their discretion. Being right means dick all while a faked apology probably would've gotten you the grade.

I'm seriously considering complaining to the school about her because this was absolutely uncalled for (and 2 other students who went into the library to talk with her about their 0%'s were told off as well)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so your whiney bitch fest will probably pan out. I'd still say the important lesson to take away from this is not to be such a brat to begin with. (after all, think if SHE wasn't being such a bitch, you wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.. )

I'm not going to take away that "important lesson" because I was being KIND AND CONSIDERATE until she started banging away at my "irresponsible" personality. I have too much pride to hear absolute bs from a librarian who doesn't EVER teach my classes or even KNOW me.

 

[Viper GTS]

Someday when you grow up you should look back on this thread. Consider it a reference point to how far you've (hopefully) come.

Getting what you wanted should have been more important than your childish sense of pride. It's great when you can have both, but since you couldn't you picked the wrong one.

Viper GTS

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Chryso
The only logical course of action is to seduce the librarian.

Step one complete. What do I do next?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: princess ida
As a parent I say just hand this over to your parents. I know how to deal with this. I know which strings to pull and which buttons to push. I know how to make heads roll. And I'd have a great time.

I hate it when i forget just who is paying their salary - me, the taxpayer! And start acting like they own the world.

Of course, the majority here are right - forget it, it's small stuff. It doesn't matter at all.

"idiot school professionals" pay taxes too. Does that mean they are self employeed?

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Someday when you grow up you should look back on this thread. Consider it a reference point to how far you've (hopefully) come.

Getting what you wanted should have been more important than your childish sense of pride. It's great when you can have both, but since you couldn't you picked the wrong one.

Viper GTS

Exactly!

Xylitol, you're pride and a buck is worth about 1 item at the 99 cent store.

What did your pride get you? Do you have the grade you want? Are you satisfied with the situation as it is? Are you looking forward to more and more headaches just to get what you arguably should already have?

I'm just trying to tell you that there was an easier way to get what you wanted, but you missed it.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Someday when you grow up you should look back on this thread. Consider it a reference point to how far you've (hopefully) come.

Getting what you wanted should have been more important than your childish sense of pride. It's great when you can have both, but since you couldn't you picked the wrong one.

Viper GTS

Exactly!

Xylitol, you're pride and a buck is worth about 1 item at the 99 cent store.

What did your pride get you? Do you have the grade you want? Are you satisfied with the situation as it is? Are you looking forward to more and more headaches just to get what you arguably should already have?

I'm just trying to tell you that there was an easier way to get what you wanted, but you missed it.

Even if I were polite, it wouldn't have gone through with her (knowing her track record). I would have had to go to the principal anyways

there are 2 others who can support me on how her behavior was and how unaccommodating it was for any hope

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
This is not college, it's high school (senior)

In other words, none of this really matters.

I walk into her office, and the moment I walk in, she doesn't listen to me and just talks about how irresponsible my behavior was for not turning in my work. I find this incredibly uncalled for since she's like 35 years older than me and a "professional." I tried to tell her that I gave her assistant my assignment and that she could ask him to attest to me giving the work on time, but she said that she gets "everything that is put into her mailbox." So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Typical rookie mistake, thinking in terms of "im right, and everyone else is wrong."

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

LOL, I suppose this level of maturity is only to be expected from someone in highschool. Seriously, this will never work the way you think it will. From now until the end of time, there will never be a situation that works out this way. Do not do this again as it will fail Every. Single. Time. You are not proving anything and at best, the other party will simply laugh off your immaturity. More likely, you do harm to your cause, whatever it may be.

I walk to the library where her assistant is (she's in the meantime following behind me probably whispering more comments about me) and I ask him WHILE the librarian woman is listening: "Do you remember me giving you my assignment?" He said YES.

The librarian woman says to me that she will THINK about grading my assignment. I think that this is bull but assume that she will be a professional and grade my assignment since there was undeniable proof that I turned my work in on time. Needless to say, I just got an e-mail from my teacher saying that I got a 0% on 15% of my research paper. Not only did he say that I got a 0%, he also said that "an apology to Ms. ------------------ is in order."

Welcome to life. Shit sucks and people with authority can and will fuck you over at their discretion. Being right means dick all while a faked apology probably would've gotten you the grade.

I'm seriously considering complaining to the school about her because this was absolutely uncalled for (and 2 other students who went into the library to talk with her about their 0%'s were told off as well)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so your whiney bitch fest will probably pan out. I'd still say the important lesson to take away from this is not to be such a brat to begin with. (after all, think if SHE wasn't being such a bitch, you wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.. )

I'm not going to take away that "important lesson" because I was being KIND AND CONSIDERATE until she started banging away at my "irresponsible" personality. I have too much pride to hear absolute bs from a librarian who doesn't EVER teach my classes or even KNOW me.

Hahhaah. Ohhh boy. Looks like you need to learn this little life lesson. Buddy, you fucked up in many many ways here.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
By the way, this is how it will work for you in the real world. If you don't plan on forcing results today, you might as well bend over and take it like a man... screaming in agony. Unless you're dNor that is.

then what.... screaming in ecstasy?

 

[ivan2]

get your parents and take this shit to the board. the damn old virgin librarian (no offense ATOT) sure seems to be on a power trip lately...

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
This is not college, it's high school (senior)

In other words, none of this really matters.

I walk into her office, and the moment I walk in, she doesn't listen to me and just talks about how irresponsible my behavior was for not turning in my work. I find this incredibly uncalled for since she's like 35 years older than me and a "professional." I tried to tell her that I gave her assistant my assignment and that she could ask him to attest to me giving the work on time, but she said that she gets "everything that is put into her mailbox." So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Typical rookie mistake, thinking in terms of "im right, and everyone else is wrong."

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

LOL, I suppose this level of maturity is only to be expected from someone in highschool. Seriously, this will never work the way you think it will. From now until the end of time, there will never be a situation that works out this way. Do not do this again as it will fail Every. Single. Time. You are not proving anything and at best, the other party will simply laugh off your immaturity. More likely, you do harm to your cause, whatever it may be.

I walk to the library where her assistant is (she's in the meantime following behind me probably whispering more comments about me) and I ask him WHILE the librarian woman is listening: "Do you remember me giving you my assignment?" He said YES.

The librarian woman says to me that she will THINK about grading my assignment. I think that this is bull but assume that she will be a professional and grade my assignment since there was undeniable proof that I turned my work in on time. Needless to say, I just got an e-mail from my teacher saying that I got a 0% on 15% of my research paper. Not only did he say that I got a 0%, he also said that "an apology to Ms. ------------------ is in order."

Welcome to life. Shit sucks and people with authority can and will fuck you over at their discretion. Being right means dick all while a faked apology probably would've gotten you the grade.

I'm seriously considering complaining to the school about her because this was absolutely uncalled for (and 2 other students who went into the library to talk with her about their 0%'s were told off as well)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so your whiney bitch fest will probably pan out. I'd still say the important lesson to take away from this is not to be such a brat to begin with. (after all, think if SHE wasn't being such a bitch, you wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.. )

I'm not going to take away that "important lesson" because I was being KIND AND CONSIDERATE until she started banging away at my "irresponsible" personality. I have too much pride to hear absolute bs from a librarian who doesn't EVER teach my classes or even KNOW me.

Hahhaah. Ohhh boy. Looks like you need to learn this little life lesson. Buddy, you fucked up in many many ways here.

high school =/= real world
I have a job, and I would never act like this if it were my boss. An angry librarian is not my boss, my teacher is closer to my boss

 

[theMan]

I think a sarcastic, hateful, and hilarious (though subtle, and well crafted) apology letter is in order... I was so good at doing stuff like that in HS.

 

[Freshgeardude]

should have email it to the teacher. go get logmein or something. if they dont get it when they want it, say give me 2 minutes and it will be in your inbox.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

Well, the second of those bold portions has to be a lie. You admitted to being sarcastic, and to walking out on the discussion. Way to take the high road. While her "telling you off" was certainly unprofessional, you will NEVER win by getting sarcastic with people in the real world.

You should have simply feigned deference, which would have had a far better chance for things to turn out in your favor. I strongly suggest reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People" as it covers these sorts of situations quite nicely.

Yes, the librarian was initially wrong, but you also played your own part very poorly indeed.

ZV

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
This is not college, it's high school (senior)

We have different parts for our research paper grading rubric, and the first part was a preliminary research assignment. We had to find sources, cite them, and write note cards on specific quotes in the cited sources and stuff.

Needless to say, I turned in my assignment on time (last period of the day on the due date). The librarian (person who grades this preliminary research) wasn't there, so her assistant offered to take it and put it into her mailbox.

I found out from my teacher that the librarian gave me a 0% for not turning in my work. Fair enough, maybe she lost it or something.

I walk into her office, and the moment I walk in, she doesn't listen to me and just talks about how irresponsible my behavior was for not turning in my work. I find this incredibly uncalled for since she's like 35 years older than me and a "professional." I tried to tell her that I gave her assistant my assignment and that she could ask him to attest to me giving the work on time, but she said that she gets "everything that is put into her mailbox." So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

I walk to the library where her assistant is (she's in the meantime following behind me probably whispering more comments about me) and I ask him WHILE the librarian woman is listening: "Do you remember me giving you my assignment?" He said YES.

The librarian woman says to me that she will THINK about grading my assignment. I think that this is bull but assume that she will be a professional and grade my assignment since there was undeniable proof that I turned my work in on time. Needless to say, I just got an e-mail from my teacher saying that I got a 0% on 15% of my research paper. Not only did he say that I got a 0%, he also said that "an apology to Ms. ------------------ is in order."

cliffs:
i) I turn in my assignment on the due date (still on time) - but I had to give my work
to her assistant because she wasn't there for some reason.
ii) I get called in by my teacher saying I didn't turn in my work
iii) I talk to the librarian (who grades this part of the research paper) and she begins to just attack me before listening to what I have to say
iv) The librarian says that I didn't turn in my work on time and I should get a 0%
v) I go to the library where her assistant is, and in front of me and the librarian, says that I did indeed turn in my work on time to him
vi) She STILL says that she will only THINK about grading my work
vii) I leave thinking that she will be the professional that she is and just grade it
viii) I get an e-mail from my teacher saying that the librarian gave me a 0% anyways and that I should apologize to her for behaving in a rude manner
ix) (excuse my grammar mistakes)

So the absolute highest I can get now is an 85% if I get a 100% on my research paper.... yipee...
I'm seriously considering complaining to the school about her because this was absolutely uncalled for (and 2 other students who went into the library to talk with her about their 0%'s were told off as well)

Go directly to the principal... your parents pay school taxes, which means ultimately those people work for you. Better yet, get your parents to formally complain to the principal. Public schools are a business after all and that librarian is an employee.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
high school =/= real world

Rookie mistake there too, as you found out. It may not be the real world, but the same "rules" are in effect and you can clearly see now the repercussions from dispensing with them.

Originally posted by: Xylitol
I have a job, and I would never act like this if it were my boss. An angry librarian is not my boss, my teacher is closer to my boss

And yet, even though she's not your "boss" she still managed to knock your grade down a fair bit, didn't she. Your "boss" is anyone whose help or approval is necessary for your success in a given endeavor.

ZV

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
This is not college, it's high school (senior)

In other words, none of this really matters.

I walk into her office, and the moment I walk in, she doesn't listen to me and just talks about how irresponsible my behavior was for not turning in my work. I find this incredibly uncalled for since she's like 35 years older than me and a "professional." I tried to tell her that I gave her assistant my assignment and that she could ask him to attest to me giving the work on time, but she said that she gets "everything that is put into her mailbox." So I start getting sarcastic with her because she clearly doesn't want to negotiate and only wants to criticize me for being irresponsible.

Typical rookie mistake, thinking in terms of "im right, and everyone else is wrong."

Now, I just walk out of her office in her face because I want to prove a point that if she's not going to listen to my valid point (not even said in a sarcastic manner), then I'm not going to listen to her points.

LOL, I suppose this level of maturity is only to be expected from someone in highschool. Seriously, this will never work the way you think it will. From now until the end of time, there will never be a situation that works out this way. Do not do this again as it will fail Every. Single. Time. You are not proving anything and at best, the other party will simply laugh off your immaturity. More likely, you do harm to your cause, whatever it may be.

I walk to the library where her assistant is (she's in the meantime following behind me probably whispering more comments about me) and I ask him WHILE the librarian woman is listening: "Do you remember me giving you my assignment?" He said YES.

The librarian woman says to me that she will THINK about grading my assignment. I think that this is bull but assume that she will be a professional and grade my assignment since there was undeniable proof that I turned my work in on time. Needless to say, I just got an e-mail from my teacher saying that I got a 0% on 15% of my research paper. Not only did he say that I got a 0%, he also said that "an apology to Ms. ------------------ is in order."

Welcome to life. Shit sucks and people with authority can and will fuck you over at their discretion. Being right means dick all while a faked apology probably would've gotten you the grade.

I'm seriously considering complaining to the school about her because this was absolutely uncalled for (and 2 other students who went into the library to talk with her about their 0%'s were told off as well)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so your whiney bitch fest will probably pan out. I'd still say the important lesson to take away from this is not to be such a brat to begin with. (after all, think if SHE wasn't being such a bitch, you wouldn't be having this problem in the first place.. )

I'm not going to take away that "important lesson" because I was being KIND AND CONSIDERATE until she started banging away at my "irresponsible" personality. I have too much pride to hear absolute bs from a librarian who doesn't EVER teach my classes or even KNOW me.

Hahhaah. Ohhh boy. Looks like you need to learn this little life lesson. Buddy, you fucked up in many many ways here.

high school =/= real world
I have a job, and I would never act like this if it were my boss. An angry librarian is not my boss, my teacher is closer to my boss

She ain't your boss but she's the one that graded your paper. If you could have won her over you could have had her regrade your paper and that would be the end of it. Now you've got this hanging over your head the whole vacation and going to have to go through a bunch of shit to correct this. If you knew better like you say you do you wouldn't have been a sarcastic ass to her. You should have simply let her have her say, then calmly explained that you turned it into her assistant because he said he would take care of it and also to have someone verify that you turned it in on time. Instead of dragging her out of the office and bringing this confrontation in front of the assistant (who's sole word is the entire basis of your argument), you should have gone to the assistant and had him write out and sign a note stating that you turned in the paper to him on time. Then, whenever you have to have any kind of communication with anyone in this matter, you can bring out a copy of the note.

Just because you think you're right doesn't mean you should be a dick. You're not going to make things easy by burning bridges with the people you need to deal with to correct the problem.