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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    I think it is common for people to believe that if Company A is doing it, it is EASY for company B to do it too. To your point, obviously, this is not true. Lets be clear, they aren't doing ARM because it is better, they are doing it because it is cheap. They also have the resources to put...
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Just the threat of blocking the supply would likely tank the stock market!
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel) - [2020 - 2025]

    Great point, and a sad reality for Intel. Me too. I also don't want the US to be under threat of the loss of this technology should something go badly in Thailand.
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I don't think so either. I think Intel will clock ~200-400Mhz slower than AMD in the next generation. Not what I have seen. Oh, I think there has been plenty of hype on both ends, but I agree, Zen 6 hype is over the top IMO. I suspect NVL will easily win CB24 benchmark. Yes, but ..... once...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    I guess having interacted with lots of very fine engineers from a great number of companies, I find it impossible to believe that AMD and Intel do not have incredible teams of engineers working on their products.... and they have been doing it for quite a bit longer than Apple .... so, I'm not...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    I think the main point of contention in this thread isn't if Apple makes good chips, it is if the design they use is somehow superior to x86. I can't speak for everyone, but based on the evidence shown, my personal conclusion is that M4 is very good at some things, and quite weak at others...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    It doesn't seem to bother AMD, Intel, and IBM. 5% die increase for 40% mt performance? Seems like a no-brainer to me. Yea, well seems like it's getting spanked by lower core count Zen processors in DC tasks. Maybe I am missing something here? I would hate to see what an EPYC 9965 would look...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    Agree to disagree. I think it likely that Turin D will be competitive with CWF and possibly even beat it. Venice D will likely be a definitive victory over CWF. Thanks. It will be interesting then to see how it performs. I think it likely that Venice D will be capable of running at decent...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    So you think CWF will have a chance at besting Venice D? Both will likely be on N2.
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    I would love to have been able to "like" this about 10 times! Thanks! That is great work and a really nice comparison chart! It is a very weak argument. A Honda Civic can't outrun a dragster, but that's only because it doesn't have ..... Conversely, a Dragster can't be driven on the road...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    Agree to disagree. I think there is a great deal of difference between designing for mobile and designing for DC. Memory Bandwidth?
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    Interesting. Thanks. Note: This is with the M4 having a full node advantage. In general, my belief is that the x86 infrastructure (OS, utilities, mother boards, off core, interconnects, etc, etc, etc) outside the actual core structure is better developed than ARM. Perhaps this will change...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    Why? I guarantee that people will be judging Zen 6's 24 cores against Intel's 52. There is nothing unfair about that IMO. In fact, that is going to be a very interesting comparison since it is likely both processors will be built on the same N2 process! It isn't how many processors you have...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    ... and who cares again? Explain why power should enter into an outright performance discussion? It is losing .... full stop. It is just insult to injury that it is losing AND likely cost more to manufacture AND has a node process advantage. You seem to be fixated on the number of cores...
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    Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

    Of course we compared them! We didn't conclude that Raptor Lake was an inferior architecture though, only that Zen 4 had slightly better performance. These days, It is always always noted which processor is benefitting from a newer or more expensive process node. It has become hyper-critical...