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Zune Offical price $250 ! Nov 14th launch

they should have focused more on design.

people will switch to zune instead of ipod a lot faster if the design has instant appeal. having interesting features is nice, but will take a lot longer to have an impact
 
Originally posted by: her34
they should have focused more on design.

people will switch to zune instead of ipod a lot faster if the design has instant appeal. having interesting features is nice, but will take a lot longer to have an impact

What's wrong with the design? It looks pretty good to me 😕

How long until a 60GB or >60GB version? 30GB is just not enough for me.
 
What dont you like about the design? It seems pretty simple and straight foward design to me.

EDIT:

In my opinion its gonna be tough for the Zune to take out IPOD. IPOD is such a staple that even if a better player comes out it will still have a hard time winning over the community.

 
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: her34
they should have focused more on design.

people will switch to zune instead of ipod a lot faster if the design has instant appeal. having interesting features is nice, but will take a lot longer to have an impact

What's wrong with the design? It looks pretty good to me 😕

How long until a 60GB or >60GB version? 30GB is just not enough for me.

there's nothing wrong with the design. it's good. but it doesn't make you go "wow" like when people first saw ipod or nano
 
Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: her34
they should have focused more on design.

people will switch to zune instead of ipod a lot faster if the design has instant appeal. having interesting features is nice, but will take a lot longer to have an impact

What's wrong with the design? It looks pretty good to me 😕

How long until a 60GB or >60GB version? 30GB is just not enough for me.

there's nothing wrong with the design. it's good. but it doesn't make you go "wow" like when people first saw ipod or nano


The 3" LCD doesnt make you go wow? lol
 
Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: her34
they should have focused more on design.

people will switch to zune instead of ipod a lot faster if the design has instant appeal. having interesting features is nice, but will take a lot longer to have an impact

What's wrong with the design? It looks pretty good to me 😕

How long until a 60GB or >60GB version? 30GB is just not enough for me.

there's nothing wrong with the design. it's good. but it doesn't make you go "wow" like when people first saw ipod or nano

I really think there is only so much you can do now design-wise. The features and the screen are major selling points here and there is only so much real-estate to add other gadgets or innovations.

I completely understand what you are saying though, Joe Ipoduser may be difficult to sway without some sort of innovative design feature, but the rest of us will still look at it with a more discerning eye 😉
 
Originally posted by: MrX8503
In my opinion its gonna be tough for the Zune to take out IPOD. IPOD is such a staple that even if a better player comes out it will still have a hard time winning over the community.

AMD K7, K8 anyone? Or was the K6 better as well, K6-2 perhaps?

Bleh. I want a Zune.

 
I just picked up a Vision M a couple of weeks ago, but I'm considering selling it and picking up one of these Zune's if the reviews look good.
 
i may be biased since i own an ipod but to me, the design is quite bad. the brown one is especailly bad and i would never consider anything but the black one. this might chip away for the enthusiasts but for the general population, ipod is more available and is considered cool.
 
Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
My only question is:

Who the hell's going to buy brown?

Chocolate aficianados? Self-styled Pig-Pen fanatics? Quasi-tree-huggers?

Well, at least it is something diff'rent.

I don't get the facination with these physically huge (as big as a telephone) media players. Since the video is so tiny it is really just a novelty and thus an oversized music player. 😕
 
It's a similar situation as with the original xbox. When that came out, Sony and the PS2 was all powerful, but MS managed to carve out a decent market share and have a good product on the market. The mp3 player market is different, and i don't see MS throwing 4 billion at this one. But ipod are old, everyone knows about them, and they don't take the competition seriously because they've usually never heard of the company. When they see this on the market, people will be curious. I personally think the Zen Vision M could have done loads better if they could afford the marketing Apple can. Now the Zune is very similar in the fact that it can compete with the ipod, and MS can actually afford to market it properly.
 
I'm planning on buying one. I'm sure it will work well with the 360 and I'm going to get the AV connector to hook it up to my AVIC D2 in my car. Should give me an easy way to watch video in the car.
 
Originally posted by: BlameCanada
It's a similar situation as with the original xbox. When that came out, Sony and the PS2 was all powerful, but MS managed to carve out a decent market share and have a good product on the market. The mp3 player market is different, and i don't see MS throwing 4 billion at this one. But ipod are old, everyone knows about them, and they don't take the competition seriously because they've usually never heard of the company. When they see this on the market, people will be curious. I personally think the Zen Vision M could have done loads better if they could afford the marketing Apple can. Now the Zune is very similar in the fact that it can compete with the ipod, and MS can actually afford to market it properly.

The difference is, in this case, there are still many other non-insignificant players in the DAP arena (Cowon, iRiver, Creative, and many more) that are far superior to the Zune and the iPod as well. From how I look at it, the Zune is inferior to the iPod technologically; the only reason I think it's going to survive is because it's backed by Microsoft's $$$. I'll wait until the next generation of ZUne, which is being developed entirely in-house by Microsoft (this Zune coming out is made by Toshiba).
 
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: BlameCanada
It's a similar situation as with the original xbox. When that came out, Sony and the PS2 was all powerful, but MS managed to carve out a decent market share and have a good product on the market. The mp3 player market is different, and i don't see MS throwing 4 billion at this one. But ipod are old, everyone knows about them, and they don't take the competition seriously because they've usually never heard of the company. When they see this on the market, people will be curious. I personally think the Zen Vision M could have done loads better if they could afford the marketing Apple can. Now the Zune is very similar in the fact that it can compete with the ipod, and MS can actually afford to market it properly.

The difference is, in this case, there are still many other non-insignificant players in the DAP arena (Cowon, iRiver, Creative, and many more) that are far superior to the Zune and the iPod as well. From how I look at it, the Zune is inferior to the iPod technologically; the only reason I think it's going to survive is because it's backed by Microsoft's $$$. I'll wait until the next generation of ZUne, which is being developed entirely in-house by Microsoft (this Zune coming out is made by Toshiba).

What is your definition of technologically inferior?

The MP3 war will be won not by technology, but by appeal(styling) and marketing.
 
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: BlameCanada
It's a similar situation as with the original xbox. When that came out, Sony and the PS2 was all powerful, but MS managed to carve out a decent market share and have a good product on the market. The mp3 player market is different, and i don't see MS throwing 4 billion at this one. But ipod are old, everyone knows about them, and they don't take the competition seriously because they've usually never heard of the company. When they see this on the market, people will be curious. I personally think the Zen Vision M could have done loads better if they could afford the marketing Apple can. Now the Zune is very similar in the fact that it can compete with the ipod, and MS can actually afford to market it properly.

The difference is, in this case, there are still many other non-insignificant players in the DAP arena (Cowon, iRiver, Creative, and many more) that are far superior to the Zune and the iPod as well. From how I look at it, the Zune is inferior to the iPod technologically; the only reason I think it's going to survive is because it's backed by Microsoft's $$$. I'll wait until the next generation of ZUne, which is being developed entirely in-house by Microsoft (this Zune coming out is made by Toshiba).

Cowon, iRiver, Creative, and SanDisk may all be large players in the DAP market, but to the consumer who doesn't follow the DAP market, they are not going to know anything of these companies. About the only popular model of mp3 player known widely is the iPod, i believe MS can use its size to market the Zune name well enough to be known by people, and get them to ask, what about this Zune thing i keep hearing about.
 
I hope the zune does well. Its about time another player other than the freakin ipod is found in someone's pockets. The fm tuner and large screen make it a winning combination for me. Im getting the black one.
 
The Zune looks like a cheap POS to me.

It's considerably thicker than the ipod and is made of cheap plastic. The wifi part is pretty nice, but I don't think I'd ever use it.
 
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