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Zotac Designs GTX 460 X2 Graphics Card

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The point is there is a 300 watt limit that needs to be respected.

the 460 1gb uses 155w at load, Im sure with abit less volts, they can get 2x460 under 300watts. They might have to lower clock speeds but by a tiny bit at most.
 
Arkadrel said:
The point is there is a 300 watt limit that needs to be respected.

the 460 1gb uses 155w at load, Im sure with abit less volts, they can get 2x460 under 300watts. They might have to lower clock speeds but by a tiny bit at most.
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2 tx 460 cards at load = 310 watts. 2 gtx460 chips on ONE card = less then 300 watts at stock clocks , there is no need to underclock, thats my point.

A dual chip single card uses less then 2 full cards. They also use low voltage chips for these cards. exspect this card to use less then 275 watts easy.

I would not be surprised to see a full 384 sp chip in a dual chip configuration on a single card at under 300 watts, but that might need to be downclocked a little bit.
 
If memory serves me right the 275 used the same crippled chips as the 295. The 295 was released first, wasn't it? Might be wrong because I'm only going from memory, but I believe the 295 was first and I can't be bothered to verify it, because it's irrelevant today.

Besides you are arguing with me over the choice of 1 word as I said it was right that dual cards do use less and it very well might come in @ <300W. The card is too little too late anyway. What's the point of it except so they can bleed more dollars with yet another card they have to sell too cheap. It doesn't break any new ground. In July, or even Aug. it would have been marketable. Now it's only good for those who don't have SLI boards and really want an nVidia solution. What percentage of users is that? Not much.
 
3DVagabond said:
If memory serves me right the 275 used the same crippled chips as the 295. The 295 was released first, wasn't it? Might be wrong because I'm only going from memory, but I believe the 295 was first and I can't be bothered to verify it, because it's irrelevant today.

Besides you are arguing with me over the choice of 1 word as I said it was right that dual cards do use less and it very well might come in @ <300W. The card is too little too late anyway. What's the point of it except so they can bleed more dollars with yet another card they have to sell too cheap. It doesn't break any new ground. In July, or even Aug. it would have been marketable. Now it's only good for those who don't have SLI boards and really want an nVidia solution. What percentage of users is that? Not much.
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I dont know bud, but I'm thinking they are gonna use a gtx460 x2 to battle the 6950 and the full 384sp chip x2 to battle the 6980 (or whatever there called).

And leave the dual AMD chip to keep the crown.

Just my opinion but it could be possible.
 
happy medium said:
I dont know bud, but I'm thinking they are gonna use a gtx460 x2 to battle the 6950 and the full 384sp chip x2 to battle the 6980 (or whatever there called).

And leave the dual AMD chip to keep the crown.

Just my opinion but it could be possible.
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I hope not. That's a losing proposition. I'm thinking that's what the 570/80 are supposed to do. I think the 460x2 is just an AIB thing. Nothing that nVidia is doing a reference design of. The full 384sp is still a pipe dream, at the moment. Just like the 512sp GTX-480. At least the 580 has been confirmed. We'll have to see if it's enough to take down, or at least be competitive with, the 6970. We don't know what arch changes they may or may not have made though for Cayman. It could just be the equivalent of a 6850x2 on one chip, 1920sp, which wouldn't be bad, actually. Or, it could be the newly designed 4D shaders and then we don't know how it will perform. Better, I would imagine.
 
the 570 and 580 are almost garentied to be slower than the 69xx cards.

If I was a betting man, id give you odds of like 50:1 than the 6990 is the fastest singel card when released. Id also bet the 6970 beats the 580 in performance.



Looking into my crystal ball I predict:
You can quote me on this (if im wrong and put it in your sig):
6990 > 6970 > 580 > 6950 > 570 > 480

and it stays that way for a year or so, until the 28nm fabs are ready.
 
its a nice idea.. I just feel like its a little late...

Also with 310+ watt use from 2x 460s, you would have to "under clock" the 460s a small bit or at the very least run them at stock speeds, if you wanted them sold and haveing PCIe compatability stickers with them.

One of the main reason the 460 is liked so much is because of how much it overclocks... 2 of these on 1 card will mean overclocking will turn to sh*t.
 
Oh sorry Happy Medium ...sorry guys for repost. Im very sorry. Didnt see it anywhere.

Anyhow Arkadrel your right. But I dont think you need to OC 2 gpu's run them at stock at it will beat a 470 OCed and come close to a 480 single. Only thing is Zotac is a cheap company soo I cant trust their PCB its probably red.. which is no no. Green PCB quality is what it needs to be. I wish EVGA did a dual gpu 460 ,,, wishful thinking.
 
Actually the fools at nVidia should have done a dual gpu 480 card like the ATI 5970

Now the 69xx dual gpu will be out in no time,, while nVidia is scratching there heads. I really doubt a 580 GTX will come out this year. If it does and its Christmas time then 460 and 470 and 480 prices will fall down the roof. giddy 🙂
 
tweakboy said:
Oh sorry Happy Medium ...sorry guys for repost. Im very sorry. Didnt see it anywhere.

Anyhow Arkadrel your right. But I dont think you need to OC 2 gpu's run them at stock at it will beat a 470 OCed and come close to a 480 single. Only thing is Zotac is a cheap company soo I cant trust their PCB its probably red.. which is no no. Green PCB quality is what it needs to be. I wish EVGA did a dual gpu 460 ,,, wishful thinking.
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Yeah, those red PCBs are total crap 😀
 
what makes you say that?
this card will be made, but in very small quantities. extra power (2x8 instead of 2x6 or 6+8) is to guarantee stable working and perhaps a little O/C headroom.
 
This card is going to work and be popular. imo
It gives surround support in one card for MANY that have only one pci-e x16 slot. If it comes in at 350 and o/c ability of the gtx 460, from the looks of the power circuitry it will. 5970+ gaming power.
Saying its to late ? Why wouldn't that apply to the 6850 ? Or asking why the 6870 is so relevant when its really a less expensive (by$20)but clocked higher 5850 ? Which came out a year ago ?
 
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Looks like a fun card, if nothing else, diversity and having many different products for customers to choose between, is always good.



notty22 said:
This card is going to work and be popular. imo
It gives surround support in one card for MANY that have only one pci-e x16 slot. If it comes in at 350 and o/c ability of the gtx 460, from the looks of the power circuitry it will. 5970+ gaming power.
Saying its to late ? Why wouldn't that apply to the 6850 ? Or asking why the 6870 is so relevant when its really a less expensive (by$20)but clocked higher 5850 ? Which came out a year ago ?
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Id get around to treating the 6870 as the replacement for the 5770.
 
Madcatatlas said:
Looks like a fun card, if nothing else, diversity and having many different products for customers to choose between, is always good.






Id get around to treating the 6870 as the replacement for the 5770.
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I think we all know , some big something is coming in Cayman, guess the big question is where will they price it ?
 
The only way a card like this will work is if the pci-e power connectors shoulder most of the load. Look at what is happening to the mb power connectors on several x58 mb's that don't have auxillary power connectors to the pci-e slots on the mb. The power draw is melting 24 pin connectors and if you'll notice newer mb's are coming with molex connectors on the mb to take stress off the 24 pin connector.
 
notty22 said:
I think we all know , some big something is coming in Cayman, guess the big question is where will they price it ?
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yeah but think of all the nonsense we heard about the 6800 cards too. in the end they were nothing but tweaked current architecture.
 
happy medium said:
I dont know bud, but I'm thinking they are gonna use a gtx460 x2 to battle the 6950 and the full 384sp chip x2 to battle the 6980 (or whatever there called).

And leave the dual AMD chip to keep the crown.

Just my opinion but it could be possible.
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Thats quite a turn around, Nvidia using X2 cards to compete with AMD's single GPU high-end.
Wasn't it supposed to be the other way around. 😵
 
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