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AdamK47

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Most of the negative opinions on Crysis mainly rest on sentiment. It's a good thing the quality unobjective reviews for the game don't rely on sentiment. Some player?s minds get wrapped around single aspects of the game like performance, graphics, physics, mechanics, and story that they lose sight of the overall game.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
Most of the negative opinions on Crysis mainly rest on sentiment. It's a good thing the quality unobjective reviews for the game don't rely on sentiment. Some player?s minds get wrapped around single aspects of the game like performance, graphics, physics, mechanics, and story that they lose sight of the overall game.

overall the game was mediocre at best
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: ayabe
Wrong on all fronts, but thanks for assuming. There isn't a single thing about this game that's epic.

We're all allowed to have our own opinions, yours just makes you come across as insane, that's all.

Sure we are. But I get a little sick of certain people around here who don't agree with your poor review of a game and automatically assume that you either suck at it, your computer sucks, or you have/had DRM issues.

For the few hours that I played I was running it at 1920x1200 with most settings on high or med. I didn't comment on performance or visuals and I can guarantee that this had nothing to do with why I feel the way I do.

Maybe I am in the minority and possibly insane but I want my $50 back. Crytek is now 2/2 in showing that they can design a beautiful engine and pack loads of technology into it, but they don't know jack shit about creating worlds, levels, mechanics, stories, or any of the other components that are necessities for creating a good video game.
 

pontifex

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You're not the only one.
Crysis is like a beauty pageant winner - pretty on the outside, but dumber than a box of rocks where it really counts.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Maybe I am in the minority and possibly insane but I want my $50 back. Crytek is now 2/2 in showing that they can design a beautiful engine and pack loads of technology into it, but they don't know jack shit about creating worlds, levels, mechanics, stories, or any of the other components that are necessities for creating a good video game.

Your sentiment is just a little over the edge... I think the world/levels are very good in both Farcry and Crysis.

Story is not that not that great in either Farcry or crysis but is not that bad... for my money, I don't think the story in Bioshock or Half life 2 are that great either.

mechanics need some help... I'm with you on that one.


All in all... I've kinda gone of FPS games. I 'm tired of FPS... they are mostly all the same.

 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: ayabe
The suit is a such a crappy gimmick it's not even funny, two of the four functions have basically no utility whatsoever -strength and speed. Yes grabbing a guy by his throat and tossing him 20 feet was fun the first couple times but after that it became really stale, really fast. Or you can jump on top of a tin shack, wow.

Doing the shoot, stealth, shoot routine is bland as well, there is no way you should be able to take out 20+ guys like this hiding behind the same rock.

When I'm playing a game, I don't have the time to invent my own fun, which is basically what this game is asking you to do. If you enjoy finding the most creative way to end baddies then I guess you might enjoy this open ended, pointless sand-boxing.

I am just past the Koreans and doubt I will fire it up again as I have no desire to waste another minute of my life on this game, especially knowing it only gets worse from here on out.

The stealth + shoot is a bit too easy to abuse. I find myself making the personal choice not to do that for a challenge, which isn't really good.

Speed I found useless for the mosty part except for running quickly for a few seconds before running out of energy. I found it easier just to hold down shift in armor mode.

Strength is actually pretty useful. It helped for recoil most of the time, but other times when taking cover in or behind shacks, I found it very useful in smashing down certain walls to get out or through; with the ability to make your own doors, this was the most useful mode of the 4.

Anyways, I just played Crysis up to the mountain again last week and quit. The second half left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't feel like going through it again. The first half is pure gold though.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: ayabe
Wrong on all fronts, but thanks for assuming. There isn't a single thing about this game that's epic.

We're all allowed to have our own opinions, yours just makes you come across as insane, that's all.

Sure we are. But I get a little sick of certain people around here who don't agree with your poor review of a game and automatically assume that you either suck at it, your computer sucks, or you have/had DRM issues.

For the few hours that I played I was running it at 1920x1200 with most settings on high or med. I didn't comment on performance or visuals and I can guarantee that this had nothing to do with why I feel the way I do.

Maybe I am in the minority and possibly insane but I want my $50 back. Crytek is now 2/2 in showing that they can design a beautiful engine and pack loads of technology into it, but they don't know jack shit about creating worlds, levels, mechanics, stories, or any of the other components that are necessities for creating a good video game.

Well, open up the Sandbox editor and make your own levels. As I said, I'm having more fun with that than I did playing the game. I'd pay $500 for the editor if I had to. It's a new obsession of mine. I love it like a fat kids loves cake.

 

Fenixgoon

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after tweaking crysis, i'm really enjoying it :)

i was going down a cliff.. speed jumped off right into the middle of a korean patrol group. "oh shit!" --- cloaked, flanked, threw a grenade, cloaked, picked them off man by man.

the next time (i died later) i just went completely behind them. the third time (died again in the same spot) i missed the patrol completely :Q
 

ja1484

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Played the demo, and it didn't really "light my fire". I see potential there, but from the descriptions of the game I've read, it seems to follow your fairly standard path through shooterhood. The gameplay isn't doing it for me - there's too much Far Cry in there, and its feel just permeates the game. As a result, Crysis suffers from the same thing that undercut Far Cry: Long lulls between action. It's much easier and faster to just cloak my way past everyone rather than fight them. Say what you want about the linearity of the Half-Life series, at least they keep feeding me cool moments at a consistent pace.

With all the high production values, I don't know why the embarrassing stuff was left in there...Do I really have a teammate named "psycho"? "Direct by Cevat Yerli"? Please. Even the characters know it. "I feel like I'm in a comic book!"-

I don't know when video games are going to stop trying to gain legitimacy by trying to be movies and actually gain legitimacy by being made as an art form by adults, for adults. There are a few titles out there that go this route, but they're pretty few and far between.

The graphics were nice, but:

1) They weren't what we were shown in the pre-release videos

and

2) I already played a game set in/on a tropical island/jungle.

I guess the overall problem I have with it is that it feels like Far Cry with a couple mods and a texture pack. There's just not enough meat on them bones for me.


That said, with the DX9 tweak and everything on "high", it ran fine on my A64x2 4800+, 2GB, 8800GT system.
 

jdoggg12

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Every FPS sucks! They're ALL mediocre at best!
[/sarcasm]

Really though, what does any other FPS excel at? There's a counter argument/opinion for anything one might answer this question with.

It just seems that the people who say Crysis was an "Epic failure" are a bit pompous or so far enamored with ONE other specific game that they can't take a moderately unbiased look at anything else.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Every FPS sucks! They're ALL mediocre at best!
[/sarcasm]

Really though, what does any other FPS excel at? There's a counter argument/opinion for anything one might answer this question with.

It just seems that the people who say Crysis was an "Epic failure" are a bit pompous or so far enamored with ONE other specific game that they can't take a moderately unbiased look at anything else.

and then there are those so enamored with Crysis that they overlook its shortcomings and deride those who dare to criticize it
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: ayabe
pretty funny review I dont agree with the conclusion however crysis is the worst fps Ive played in many years the suit is a such a crappy gimmick its not even funny two of the four functions have basically no utility whatsoever strength and speed yes grabbing a guy by his throat and tossing him 20 feet was fun the first couple times but after that it became really stale really fast or you can jump on top of a tin shack wow doing the shoot stealth shoot routine is bland as well there is no way you should be able to take out 20 guys like this hiding behind the same rock when Im playing a game I dont have the time to invent my own fun which is basically what this game is asking you to do if you enjoy finding the most creative way to end baddies then I guess you might enjoy this open ended pointless sand boxing I am just past the koreans and doubt I will fire it up again as I have no desire to waste another minute of my life on this game especially knowing it only gets worse from here on out

ahh much better :p

I couldn't not disagree more. Crysis was just fun, plain and simple. Multiple entrance points does matter, and what were you playing on easy? god damn, i'm sick of people who bash crysis who don't play the game for it's full value. It's fun being able to mess with koreans with a nanosuit. It's fun to turn up the difficulty and have to actually use your full gauntlet of weaponry to kill Koreans, not to mention the best graphics EVER. of ANY game! ever! wtf don't people understand about that? if if the gameplay sucked(which is doesn't) it still looks better then any game EVER! If your a pc enthusiast, your always looking for the next benchmark, and here it is. (not only that, but's it has better gameplay then that shit cod4 puts out as singleplayer...)
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: ayabe
pretty funny review I dont agree with the conclusion however crysis is the worst fps Ive played in many years the suit is a such a crappy gimmick its not even funny two of the four functions have basically no utility whatsoever strength and speed yes grabbing a guy by his throat and tossing him 20 feet was fun the first couple times but after that it became really stale really fast or you can jump on top of a tin shack wow doing the shoot stealth shoot routine is bland as well there is no way you should be able to take out 20 guys like this hiding behind the same rock when Im playing a game I dont have the time to invent my own fun which is basically what this game is asking you to do if you enjoy finding the most creative way to end baddies then I guess you might enjoy this open ended pointless sand boxing I am just past the koreans and doubt I will fire it up again as I have no desire to waste another minute of my life on this game especially knowing it only gets worse from here on out

ahh much better :p

I couldn't not disagree more. Crysis was just fun, plain and simple. Multiple entrance points does matter, and what were you playing on easy? god damn, i'm sick of people who bash crysis who don't play the game for it's full value. It's fun being able to mess with koreans with a nanosuit. It's fun to turn up the difficulty and have to actually use your full gauntlet of weaponry to kill Koreans, not to mention the best graphics EVER. of ANY game! ever! wtf don't people understand about that? if if the gameplay sucked(which is doesn't) it still looks better then any game EVER! If your a pc enthusiast, your always looking for the next benchmark, and here it is. (not only that, but's it has better gameplay then that shit cod4 puts out as singleplayer...)

i don't give a shot about the graphics and thats all crysis is and seems to be the argument for everyone that loves it.

"what, you didn't like the gameplay? but look at the graphics!! the graphics!! *spooge*"

The game is banal, blah, boring, dull, flat, flavorless, ho-hum, humdrum, insipid, monotonous, pablum, sapless, tedious, unexciting, uninspiring, uninteresting, unstimulating, vanilla, vapid, weak, wimpy, wishy-washy, stale, tired, tripe, unimaginative, unoriginal, lackluster, and vapid.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: ayabe
pretty funny review I dont agree with the conclusion however crysis is the worst fps Ive played in many years the suit is a such a crappy gimmick its not even funny two of the four functions have basically no utility whatsoever strength and speed yes grabbing a guy by his throat and tossing him 20 feet was fun the first couple times but after that it became really stale really fast or you can jump on top of a tin shack wow doing the shoot stealth shoot routine is bland as well there is no way you should be able to take out 20 guys like this hiding behind the same rock when Im playing a game I dont have the time to invent my own fun which is basically what this game is asking you to do if you enjoy finding the most creative way to end baddies then I guess you might enjoy this open ended pointless sand boxing I am just past the koreans and doubt I will fire it up again as I have no desire to waste another minute of my life on this game especially knowing it only gets worse from here on out

ahh much better :p

I couldn't not disagree more. Crysis was just fun, plain and simple. Multiple entrance points does matter, and what were you playing on easy? god damn, i'm sick of people who bash crysis who don't play the game for it's full value. It's fun being able to mess with koreans with a nanosuit. It's fun to turn up the difficulty and have to actually use your full gauntlet of weaponry to kill Koreans, not to mention the best graphics EVER. of ANY game! ever! wtf don't people understand about that? if if the gameplay sucked(which is doesn't) it still looks better then any game EVER! If your a pc enthusiast, your always looking for the next benchmark, and here it is. (not only that, but's it has better gameplay then that shit cod4 puts out as singleplayer...)

i don't give a shot about the graphics and thats all crysis is and seems to be the argument for everyone that loves it.

"what, you didn't like the gameplay? but look at the graphics!! the graphics!! *spooge*"

The game is banal, blah, boring, dull, flat, flavorless, ho-hum, humdrum, insipid, monotonous, pablum, sapless, tedious, unexciting, uninspiring, uninteresting, unstimulating, vanilla, vapid, weak, wimpy, wishy-washy, stale, tired, tripe, unimaginative, unoriginal, lackluster, and vapid.

uh, no? rofl
 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: ayabe
pretty funny review I dont agree with the conclusion however crysis is the worst fps Ive played in many years the suit is a such a crappy gimmick its not even funny two of the four functions have basically no utility whatsoever strength and speed yes grabbing a guy by his throat and tossing him 20 feet was fun the first couple times but after that it became really stale really fast or you can jump on top of a tin shack wow doing the shoot stealth shoot routine is bland as well there is no way you should be able to take out 20 guys like this hiding behind the same rock when Im playing a game I dont have the time to invent my own fun which is basically what this game is asking you to do if you enjoy finding the most creative way to end baddies then I guess you might enjoy this open ended pointless sand boxing I am just past the koreans and doubt I will fire it up again as I have no desire to waste another minute of my life on this game especially knowing it only gets worse from here on out

ahh much better :p

I couldn't not disagree more. Crysis was just fun, plain and simple. Multiple entrance points does matter, and what were you playing on easy? god damn, i'm sick of people who bash crysis who don't play the game for it's full value. It's fun being able to mess with koreans with a nanosuit. It's fun to turn up the difficulty and have to actually use your full gauntlet of weaponry to kill Koreans, not to mention the best graphics EVER. of ANY game! ever! wtf don't people understand about that? if if the gameplay sucked(which is doesn't) it still looks better then any game EVER! If your a pc enthusiast, your always looking for the next benchmark, and here it is. (not only that, but's it has better gameplay then that shit cod4 puts out as singleplayer...)


The graphics are really just a marginal improvement over the rest of this generation, honestly speaking. I didn't see anything in Crysis that looked scads better than, say, sections of Gears of War.

Realism =/= better. Some games in recent years have made excellent use of a particular art style that isn't intended to be realistic and is all the better for not trying.

Prince of Persia: Sands of Time...one of the charms was the storybook feel. Team Fortress 2 is far more entertaining in it's wildly overanimated visuals than many other "more realistic" looking games.

I'm not taking anything away from Crysis in the visual department...it certainly looks nice, but not that much nicer than anything else out there.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: ayabe
pretty funny review I dont agree with the conclusion however crysis is the worst fps Ive played in many years the suit is a such a crappy gimmick its not even funny two of the four functions have basically no utility whatsoever strength and speed yes grabbing a guy by his throat and tossing him 20 feet was fun the first couple times but after that it became really stale really fast or you can jump on top of a tin shack wow doing the shoot stealth shoot routine is bland as well there is no way you should be able to take out 20 guys like this hiding behind the same rock when Im playing a game I dont have the time to invent my own fun which is basically what this game is asking you to do if you enjoy finding the most creative way to end baddies then I guess you might enjoy this open ended pointless sand boxing I am just past the koreans and doubt I will fire it up again as I have no desire to waste another minute of my life on this game especially knowing it only gets worse from here on out

ahh much better :p

I couldn't not disagree more. Crysis was just fun, plain and simple. Multiple entrance points does matter, and what were you playing on easy? god damn, i'm sick of people who bash crysis who don't play the game for it's full value. It's fun being able to mess with koreans with a nanosuit. It's fun to turn up the difficulty and have to actually use your full gauntlet of weaponry to kill Koreans, not to mention the best graphics EVER. of ANY game! ever! wtf don't people understand about that? if if the gameplay sucked(which is doesn't) it still looks better then any game EVER! If your a pc enthusiast, your always looking for the next benchmark, and here it is. (not only that, but's it has better gameplay then that shit cod4 puts out as singleplayer...)


The graphics are really just a marginal improvement over the rest of this generation, honestly speaking. I didn't see anything in Crysis that looked scads better than, say, sections of Gears of War.

Realism =/= better. Some games in recent years have made excellent use of a particular art style that isn't intended to be realistic and is all the better for not trying.

Prince of Persia: Sands of Time...one of the charms was the storybook feel. Team Fortress 2 is far more entertaining in it's wildly overanimated visuals than many other "more realistic" looking games.

I'm not taking anything away from Crysis in the visual department...it certainly looks nice, but not that much nicer than anything else out there.

i'm curious, at what res and at what settings were you playing at?
 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
A bit silly and sometimes harsh but he was dead on.
Crysis feels like a less playable but much prettier version of Far Cry.

I liked the demo, but wont buy the real game until 8800GTX's are dirt cheap or the 9000 series has an inexpensive mid-range card that can play it well.

EDIT:
The reviewer and some people here did point out that the super abilities can open up new strategies when trying to clear a map.
I think they were trying to make it a little like Deus Ex where speed and stealth can often be used to complete areas. The problem is it doesnt work nearly as well as Deus Ex.

Honestly, crysis felt like a streamlined deus ex to me. The bioshock treatment basically.
I don't think the different methods worked all that well in deus ex either, as you essentially were given the choice of going through airducts in every level or shooting everyone. Everything else was relatively unpolished.

I used stealth a lot early on, but found it relatively useless later on. I found speed to be my most used power actually...well after the default armor. Strength I barely touched except when I made a beeline to an objective, found it blocked off my a cliff, and built a tower of barrels and leaped on to the top of it. Strength really felt too much like a story power to me though, but I guess that's the side effect of being a power that doesn't directly effect combat. (though apparently it eliminates recoil, didn't know that, but I never really felt I suffered from recoil)
 

jdoggg12

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Every FPS sucks! They're ALL mediocre at best!
[/sarcasm]

Really though, what does any other FPS excel at? There's a counter argument/opinion for anything one might answer this question with.

It just seems that the people who say Crysis was an "Epic failure" are a bit pompous or so far enamored with ONE other specific game that they can't take a moderately unbiased look at anything else.

and then there are those so enamored with Crysis that they overlook its shortcomings and deride those who dare to criticize it

Criticize != bash

Its far from perfect, but c'mon..

. There isn't a single thing about this game that's epic.

yes there is,

EPIC FAIL!

:confused:
 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: videogames101

i'm curious, at what res and at what settings were you playing at?


12x10 high across the board.

yeah, high vs. very high is actually a huge difference.

http://www.extremetech.com/art.../0,1697,2209704,00.asp

explains how to enable it on dx9


Yeah, I had it enabled. Installed the CVarGroups tweak before I even fired it up. I still wasn't blown away to any extent. There was some nice vertex shading going on, and some good texturing, but graphically there's plenty of other stuff in its league. All the eye candy was there.

Ironically, the best part about it, despite the cheesy bits, was the character acting.


Edit: I will give 'em this - the water is far and away the best in any game, ever. Very convincing. The first time I'd say water has been done right in any shooter.
 

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Of the games I've played that he's reviewed, I agree for the most part. Regardless, they're all hilarious reviews. "... one commander, two red shirts, and Jason Statham." LOL I thought the same thing.

Big picture, I thought Crysis was OK, it's in that second tier of OK with hl2e2 and cod4. Portal and STALKER are up on the top tier.
 

SlowSpyder

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it looks like a very mediocre game with pretty graphics.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it looks like a very mediocre game with pretty graphics.

Nope, you're one of about 15%. The average non-techie AT poster is blown away by this stuff. Bioshock got ravaged on this board also, and has sold millions, everyone everywhere else loves it, it's won pretty much all the critical awards and audience choice awards. If forums were any indication you'd think Ron Paul had about 60% of the vote.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it looks like a very mediocre game with pretty graphics.

Nope, you're one of about 15%. The average non-techie AT poster is blown away by this stuff. Bioshock got ravaged on this board also, and has sold millions, everyone everywhere else loves it, it's won pretty much all the critical awards and audience choice awards. If forums were any indication you'd think Ron Paul had about 60% of the vote.

is there such a thing as average non-techie person on this forum? what do you consider techie?