DivideBYZero
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Yes, because clearly, lame, overused, nerdy, Chuck Norris jokes, are so much funnier.
Yahtzee is as cool as the other side of the pillow, but only if you don't take yourself too seriously. Otherwise you end up having him wound an evidently fragile ego that sought external validation. He is brutal, witty, and his analogies, references, and metaphors are clever IMO.
I never expect him to like what I like, because he doesn't exactly like anything when "in character". It is his schtik, and I predict his fame/infamy and fortune will only grow. He may end up the most popular "I love him/love to hate him" celebrity on the net.
Damn, Yahtzee really nailed this one. My friend got that game a few weeks ago and I was sick of it within 20 minutes.
I agree with him to an extent, but I still enjoy the game. My biggest gripe about the unlocking... is the save file is console locked. So for my friends who got this game and enjoy it as well, but aren't as into as me, we never have the characters there.
I'm actually enjoying the 1 player side scroller too...
I'm actually enjoying the 1 player side scroller too...
sourceninja
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I feel I got my moneys worth for the game. It's not a great game, but its a good solid fun game imho. Works great when the guys are over and we have a few bears in us and are sick of rock band or golf.
Yes, I realize xenophobic is usually used in reference to bias against foreign nationals, but it's also an unreasonable fear of "...that which is foreign or strange" to quote dictionary.com directly.
I've seen enough people claiming that Wii-inspired casual gaming better not impact the next Xbox/PS platforms that I felt using the term was justified. I also wanted to bring this fanboy-baiting thread one step closer to Godwin's Law.
thraashman
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I'm scared to ask why you'd have a few bears in you? We talking like Chicago Bears, or like big old grizzlies or polar bears? I think having a bear in you would be really painful!
Yreka
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Yhatzee somewhat bashes every game he reviews, and most of them have been posted here as they come out.. The persecution complex is getting a little out of hand. Anti-Nintendo Backlash, Zenophobia ? Why does it have to be a fear of change, why can't it simply be about choice, or personal preference?
My main problem with the wii ( IMO of course) is that in most games, the motion sensing controls are forced on you where a traditional controller would have made more sense + worked better. Many "hardcore/core/xenophobic/elitest" gamers whatever you want to call them seem to agree. Whats wrong with not wanting to force this control scheme on systems that are clearly targeted tword the "hardcore/core/xenophobic/elitest" crowd ? Why do you feel the need to force your preference on everyone else ? Because you deem the wii-mote progressive, and people who like a traditional controller are knuckle dragging xenophobes ?
Who is being elitist again?
Go back and read DAPuns post, you guys are taking yourselves WAY too seriously. There is plenty of console bashing to go around, just because you happen to agree with the negativity about Sony and MS doesn't negate the fact that its there.
I swear, Apple might as well have released the wii.. It seems to attract the same type of hypersensitive people that rush to its defense.. Looove them Mac - PC commercials where PC looks like a bumbling idiot, but don't you dare mention any shortcomings about the mac or its all tears and name-calling.
Must be the magic of the lower case "i" in the product name, gets people whipped into an emotional frenzy.
My main problem with the wii ( IMO of course) is that in most games, the motion sensing controls are forced on you where a traditional controller would have made more sense + worked better. Many "hardcore/core/xenophobic/elitest" gamers whatever you want to call them seem to agree. Whats wrong with not wanting to force this control scheme on systems that are clearly targeted tword the "hardcore/core/xenophobic/elitest" crowd ? Why do you feel the need to force your preference on everyone else ? Because you deem the wii-mote progressive, and people who like a traditional controller are knuckle dragging xenophobes ?
Who is being elitist again?
Go back and read DAPuns post, you guys are taking yourselves WAY too seriously. There is plenty of console bashing to go around, just because you happen to agree with the negativity about Sony and MS doesn't negate the fact that its there.
I swear, Apple might as well have released the wii.. It seems to attract the same type of hypersensitive people that rush to its defense.. Looove them Mac - PC commercials where PC looks like a bumbling idiot, but don't you dare mention any shortcomings about the mac or its all tears and name-calling.
Must be the magic of the lower case "i" in the product name, gets people whipped into an emotional frenzy.
You mainly quote me, but then you make assumptions that completely skew my original point. I enjoy games from all systems. I must have missed the part of my post where I mentioned that the Wii remote was so terribly progressive and that those who don't are knuckle-dragging xenophobes. So no, I'm not being elitist regardless of how much you want to build up that strawman.
So you haven't noticed any extra console bashing towards the Wii due to its popularity and casual gamer audience? How many fingers am I holding up?
Yes, it's only the Wii-defenders getting whipped into a frenzy. You certainly wouldn't waste any of your time writing long messages on the subject, just like there are no other people on ATCG who would waste their time going into each Wii thread to (however politely) mention their dust-filled Wiis.
Yreka
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Fair enough, I read too much into, and over-reacted to the "Xenophobia" comment..
You haven't noticed certain people only show up in these thread to blindly rush into threads perpetually offended to either bash OTN ( other than Nintendo) systems, while crying foul when any criticism goes the other way ? Given, you normally aren't one of these guys but you cant deny they exist.
And to answer your question, no I dont think the wii is excessively "bashed" because its popular.
My whole issue, and reason for my response is that it seems like we can't even have rational discussion about a Nintendo system without eliciting an over the top emotional response. I don't really notice that with other topics/systems. Its really weird, and it really does remind me of the Apple message boards.
Sure the "collecting dust" comments get old, but so do the "OMG 5th console RRODz" and "No Games" comments...
Its been a long time coming, this thread was just the straw..
Take a look at the thread for the ZP review of Mass Effect review.
That game is very well received around here, and gets smashed in the ZP review.. No crying, nobody claiming bias or discrimination
Skim through some of the past threads that have... degenerated.. They almost always end with a pro-Nintendo emotional diatribe and everyone else moving on.. But your right, ive spent more time on it than its probably worth.
And for what it's worth, my comment was too smart-assed, as well.
You're right, but that thread went very differently. Apropos of nothing, Mass Effect is my 2007 GOTY. In the ME thread, everyone took his comments jokingly and no one piled on the game in question. In this thread, that's exactly what happened with SSBB. If posters had jumped in the Yahtzee/Mass Effect thread and started attacking ME, you would have seen plenty of people, including me, defending the game.
That's what prompted my original post. If we're going to take Yahtzee's (usually true) criticism as an exaggerated joke towards one game then I don't see how we can use his criticism as a definitive reason to dislike another game. If you re-read my first post, I think that thought process will show through, even if you don't agree with it.
EDIT: And all that said, the OP of the thread seems to have no idea what Zero Punctuation is all about.
R Nilla
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Er, what? Who's piling on SSBB? I see lots of one sentence comments stating that people either agree with Yahtzee's criticism as usual, or that they happened to not like SSBB and their reasoning matches the ZP criticisms. I don't see anyone using the ZP review as definitive proof that the game is poor.
Perhaps it's just more the case that the people on ATCG who happen to follow the ZP reviews aren't owners or big fans of the Wii (and hence the lack of supportive comments rolling with the reviews punches).
fustercluck
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I didn't think he was too hard on it really. Like he said, you either know if you're going to like it, or you won't. It's basically the same as Melee with some new characters and stages. Big surprise. The adventure mode is pretty cool, and goes on a long time though.
I enjoy it as a Nintendo fan but understand all the criticism for it. I haven't seen anyone criticize the biggest dislikes I have for it. Like how you can hardly tell what the hell is going on when playing with 3 other people and how god damned annoyling hard it is to try and pick up damn item because you tap left or right and your character runs 20 ft past it.
Still, I'd give it a 9 out of 10. Haven't tried playing it online yet but I'm sure it's a big laggy mess.
I enjoy it as a Nintendo fan but understand all the criticism for it. I haven't seen anyone criticize the biggest dislikes I have for it. Like how you can hardly tell what the hell is going on when playing with 3 other people and how god damned annoyling hard it is to try and pick up damn item because you tap left or right and your character runs 20 ft past it.
Still, I'd give it a 9 out of 10. Haven't tried playing it online yet but I'm sure it's a big laggy mess.
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Yes, because clearly, lame, overused, nerdy, Chuck Norris jokes, are so much funnier.
Yahtzee is as cool as the other side of the pillow, but only if you don't take yourself too seriously. Otherwise you end up having him wound an evidently fragile ego that sought external validation. He is brutal, witty, and his analogies, references, and metaphors are clever IMO.
I never expect him to like what I like, because he doesn't exactly like anything when "in character". It is his schtik, and I predict his fame/infamy and fortune will only grow. He may end up the most popular "I love him/love to hate him" celebrity on the net.
I'm so terribly sorry that my sig doesn't bowl you over with its humor. I suppose that combined with my failure to idolize yahtzee gives you license to insult me. What are you, 14? How about just saying you disagree and then move the fuck on?
Blanket assumptions FTL. I've watched every ZP review I could find and while I sometimes don't like the level he takes his hatred to, I still enjoy most of them. This particular review really gave me a bad aftertaste. But I could see how the "wee bit" might not have come across with the sarcasm it was intended with.
Do people really idolize this guy so much that it hurts them when he disagrees with their opinion on a game, or makes them feel better when he says something good about their favorite game? I guess that makes him "that guy" of internet video game reviews huh?
shortylickens
No Lifer
- Jul 15, 2003
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You may have not heard him correctly. He didnt really shit on all of his fans.
He shit on anybody who automatically likes a Wii game because they are a fanboy.
Overall I tend to agree with him on the reviews. Until he shits on Deus Ex I will probably like him.
Wont be buying any games from just his opinion, but he does provide some good entertainment.
When I wanna buy a game I'll rent it or get the demo first.
mrSHEiK124
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ArmchairAthlete
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I stopped looking at these after he slammed Mario Galaxy. Well, I'd only seen maybe two before that though, heh.
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The terms "you" and "yourself" were used as generalizations. To prevent upsetting the sensitive, in the future, I will try to remember to use a terms that aren't misinterpreted such as "We" and "Ourselves".
My response addressed this comment directly, providing an explanation, in a, now, obviously futile attempt, to help you "get it".
But, please, don't let my observations, made in an effort to help you introspect on your own emotionally based response to Yahtzee or I, get in the way of constantly feeling attacked and insulted by everything. :roll:
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