Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Seems simple algebra stuff to me... and I don't see where he took anyone's math and claimed it to be his...

Alright, this "math" debacle has gone on long enough.

Note that while TLC protests here, he is the one that keeps claiming I copped math, even though I did nothing of the sort. He has no reasonable argument, so he makes one up avoid rational discourse, and now he has derailed this thread with what should be discussed in my WTC7 thread, so I'll quote posts over to it and respond there.

 

[Number1]

Nobody in high places is listening to the twuthers so they can argue or scream all they want, they are irrelevant. Why, because they are wrong.

Their movement is loosing steam, their every arguments have been debunked, only the hard core twuther persist in pushing this belief.


It's just fun in here to make fun of them.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Seems simple algebra stuff to me... and I don't see where he took anyone's math and claimed it to be his...

Alright, this "math" debacle has gone on long enough.

Note that while TLC protests here, he is the one that keeps claiming I copped math, even though I did nothing of the sort. He has no reasonable argument, so he makes one up avoid rational discourse, and now he has derailed this thread with what should be discussed in my WTC7 thread, so I'll quote posts over to it and respond there.

Where did you get the formulas from? Are you saying you retyped what others already provided instead of using the copy & paste function?

Like I said in the other thread, being able to solve by substitution (and showing nothing of value in the process) means nothing. The skill is knowing which formulas apply in certain situations and you have not shown the capabilities to do that. You copied and pasted formulas already presented by others. Whether you attributed, or not, that it was a copy and paste from another is neither here nor there. You still, ultimately, copied and pasted them.

Got it yet or is anything going to sink into that thick skull of yours?

 

[kylebisme]

Ah, the irony of the guy who can't even post in the right thread calling me thick. Of course he doesn't even know Newton's equations when he sees them, no wonder his arguments are full of inaccuracies and falsehoods.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: kylebisme
Ah, the irony of the guy who can't even post in the right thread calling me thick. Of course he doesn't even know Newton's equations when he sees them, no wonder his arguments are full of inaccuracies and falsehoods.

Any truther thread is the right thread to call you thick. Also, you can't counter what I said so you go directly into bluster mode again. Par for the course for you.

btw, you incorrectly employed the equations, as was already pointed out by GodlessAstronomer, using an ultimately circular argument because you start off with and ASSumption you can't prove. All you showed is that when Fr=0, mass is in free-fall. Whoopty fucking doodoo. We all knew that already. However, the equation proves NOTHING in regard to your spurious claim about WTC 7 because you still can't comprehend why when 8+ floors of support structure fails the mass above is going to come down @ free fall speed. That's because you're ignorant. There can be no other explanation.

But keep dodging and dancing, like usual. Continue fooling nobody but yourself. Bluster on.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Color me shocked that kylebisme isn't responding to criticisms of his maths/physics. Probably because he has no idea how to interpret the basic algebra he copy&pasted.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Color me shocked that kylebisme isn't responding to criticisms of his maths/physics.

Color yourself stupid for not being able to follow a link where I noted I would respond to your criticisms:

Originally posted by: kylebisme
...what should be discussed in my WTC7 thread, so I'll quote posts over to it and respond there.

And color yourself a liar too for this:

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Probably because he has no idea how to interpret the basic algebra he copy&pasted.

 

[First]

What's funny is that this nitwit never posted the math, someone had to dig it up from another board. It's likely he was too embarrassed to post it knowing it was full of holes and had basic reasoning errors. Like his claim about how it isn't possible for a much larger mass to fall near free fall against low mass resistive force. A mass which, of course, said nitwit still has not quantified for us because, as we all know, he can't quantify the mass of the resistive force without it directly leading to the inescapable conclusion that near free fall is absolutely possible at WTC7 due to the huge difference in relative masses.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Why are you all so angry?

 

[kylebisme]

They are angry because what I'm doing here is akin to telling children that Santa isn't real.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Why are you all so angry?

Entertained, not angry. It's fun watching Truthers wimp out of debate.

 

[kylebisme]

It's sad watching falsers blabber on like flatulent asses.

 

[First]

^ Says the pussy still deflecting facts and wimping out of debate.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: First
... Like his claim about how it isn't possible for a much larger mass to fall near free fall against low mass resistive force. A mass which, of course, said nitwit still has not quantified for us because, as we all know, he can't quantify the mass of the resistive force without it directly leading to the inescapable conclusion that near free fall is absolutely possible at WTC7 due to the huge difference in relative masses.

Oh heck, it is not all that hard to add up what each floor's weight is.. W=M in the same place. What is hard is knowing what the exact sequence is... NIST says what that was.
What we see is; the top 8 floors of facade and I presume the exterior columns falling.. I can't see what interior bits are also falling or if they already fell...
Moonbeam gave an, "IF all your bones turned to jelly you'd fall at free fall" but the exterior columns did not turn to jelly in the top bit that fell at free fall... the bones still were there cuz we see the facade is... and no where is it indicated in the facade that they interacted with the interior's events to any great degree. If the exterior column(s) were pulled in we'd have seen that reflected in distortion in the facade which is attached. Just like we see in the SIM, btw.

Since I saw the faces of the facade fall then stop and tilt in toward the back/front, I offered that maybe a lower floor's exterior columns did like this ' > ' and the distance between the top and bottom left hand bits was equal to the 105' of free fall of the exterior and facade. But they did it real quick like.. To me that is the only way with out explosives or what ever you can get what I see to happen.. There was no crush crush crush.. not to the top so many floors of facade and exterior columns. I can see say floor 14 getting pounded with stuff from above and the exterior columns got hot and weak and bent in or buckled like I showed above. When that happened then down came the top bit all free fall like.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: kylebisme
They are angry because what I'm doing here is akin to telling children that Santa isn't real.

Unidentified forces brought the building down you said.

You're the only one talking about mythical unidentified forces.

You want us to believe you.


No.

You're dressed up as Santa and nobody is buying it.

 

[kylebisme]

Common guys, we already have a thread for talk of WTC7, please.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: kylebisme
Common guys, we already have a thread for talk of WTC7, please.

I agree, the threads should be merged.

 

[kylebisme]

I disagree, the WTC7 should be kept on topic as much as possible, and general 9/11 discussion about everything mentioned in the should go here in this thread about that. Granted, I know asking falsers to respect the idea of staying on topic is a lot to ask.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Its obvious that most of you didn't bother with the video. I find it pretty funny how immature most of you guys get when this topic is brought up.

If any of you falsers could answer this for me, please be my guest.

Why were these planes allowed to fly for so long off their course.....and not be intercepted by either a jet or AA missile?

This question has been asked so many times...yet no one can ever give a correct answer.

You know, just the other day a couple of pilots dozed off and overshot their landing by 150 miles. Air traffic controllers, using the new protocol, asked for escorts, but the jets never made it off the ground.

 

[kylebisme]

I hadn't heard that story until now, but looked it up, and that is fucking pitiful. At least it wasn't a hijacking, but it makes me hate paying my taxes that much more regardless.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: kylebisme
It's sad watching falsers blabber on like flatulent asses.

Why do you even continue to push your agenda. I call it an agenda because you have systematically ignored, attempted to discredit, or simply attacked people who ask you questions that you cannot answer and yet you continue with this mantra that we're talking out of our asses.

In your other thread you said you were interested in talking about the truth, it's long-past time for you to actually address the points raised and, until you do, you're nothing but a guy with an agenda, not interested in any sort of systematic discussion, rather interested in finding people that will agree.

 

[HannibalX]

It's hard to take the video seriously when the first five minutes attempt to produce an emotional response in the viewer which could affect their judgment on any material presented from there on out. All of the 9-11 conspiracy videos start the same way. People in a compromised emotional state are more willing to believe anything that may explain the events in a way which the anger, aggression and depression they are feeling can applied to a person or group of people who are ?in charge?. Basically meaning, it gives people someone to blame so that they don?t have to accept that someone or something outside of their influence or government can actually effect them.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Why do you even continue to push your agenda. I call it an agenda because you have systematically ignored, attempted to discredit, or simply attacked people who ask you questions that you cannot answer and yet you continue with this mantra that we're talking out of our asses.

In your other thread you said you were interested in talking about the truth, it's long-past time for you to actually address the points raised and, until you do, you're nothing but a guy with an agenda, not interested in any sort of systematic discussion, rather interested in finding people that will agree.

You talk your ass, claiming thermite can't explode even after I provided a credible source confirming the fact that it can and commonly is engineered to do just that, droning on with off topic questions, questions I've already responded to, and other such nonsense, So, yes, I often ignore falsers like yourself, but that isn't out of any agenda of my own, rather just a response to the futility of attempting to break though yours.

That said, if you want to try again, please ask whatever question you are most interested in having me answer, either in the WTC7 thread if it is related to that, or otherwise here.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: iFX
It's hard to take the video seriously...

It's easy to attack the presentation as an excuse to ignore the substance of an argument.

That said perhaps you'd be willing to give a critique of National Geographic's 9/11: Science & Conspiracy? The presentation, and the substance too if you are up for it.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Why do you even continue to push your agenda. I call it an agenda because you have systematically ignored, attempted to discredit, or simply attacked people who ask you questions that you cannot answer and yet you continue with this mantra that we're talking out of our asses.

In your other thread you said you were interested in talking about the truth, it's long-past time for you to actually address the points raised and, until you do, you're nothing but a guy with an agenda, not interested in any sort of systematic discussion, rather interested in finding people that will agree.

kylebisme is a troll, pure and imple, and an ignorant troll at that. His pretenses and bluster are plain for all to see yet he continues to yammer endlessly as if he's proven one single bit of his claim. Like most truthers, when he shown to be wrong on an issue he ignores it and switches gears to another subject, all while bitching that nobody is staying on topic.

Since he can't provide any of the proper math to demonstrate his claim in the other thread, and because this thread presents nothing but a rehash of the same old well-debunked stupor troofer distortions, bad physics, and outright lies, maybe it's time to lock both threads as they are going nowhere? kylebisme is nothing else but more of the same truther lame.