Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[poke01]

Is is that tweet about 48 core being delayed? Or something else

Cache product for nova lake, the big gaming one, has gone. Speculated about that few months ago. Couldn't see them making it.

There was a tweet from Raichu saying the big cache is real.

 

[Thibsie]

C'mon guys, still the beans. Can't stand the tension in this thriller.

What's the show again ?
Intel the way of the dodo s15e01 by MShLeeT ?

 

[Kaffeekenan]

Is is that tweet about 48 core being delayed? Or something else


There was a tweet from Raichu saying the big cache is real.

Nah, the 48 core delay would not be big news at all in my opinion.

 

[inquiss]

Nah, the 48 core delay would not be big news at all in my opinion.

Means AMD free run at all of DIY for another gen. Think that's substantial for enthusiasts

 

[511]

Means AMD free run at all of DIY for another gen. Think that's substantial for enthusiasts

bLLC is launching before that though and all the enthusiasts care about that and 8+16 should be enough it's still 2X the MT of 9800X3D lol and if it beats it in gaming by 15-20% I don't see any reason it won't sell.

 

[Kaffeekenan]

Seriously why doesn't anyone tell what's up? It's not like you signed a NDA or something...holy moly. What a kindergarten sometimes.

 

[Josh128]

Funnier than either of those.

18A is going so well it will now be bypassed for IFS in favor of the much superior 16A/14A amirite?

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[Josh128]

Two theories.

18A delay

Cache product for nova lake, the big gaming one, has gone. Speculated about that few months ago. Couldn't see them making it.

#2 was confirmed this morning-- at least that it wont have the bLLC and will release later. That would have been a pointless SKU anyway.

 

[Kaffeekenan]

#2 was confirmed this morning-- at least that it wont have the bLLC and will release later. That would have been a pointless SKU anyway.

But that cannot be the big news, a quarter delay with a niche product is nothing to write home about. The fuzz has to be about something substantial...like a cancellation of jaguar shores or something. Like big. Otherwise people would not be so freaking secretive.

 

[adroc_thurston]

like a cancellation of jaguar shores or something

Intel is beyond dead in GPGPU space.
No one cares about their roadmap.

 

[Kepler_L2]

Seriously why doesn't anyone tell what's up? It's not like you signed a NDA or something...holy moly. What a kindergarten sometimes.

I can't say or all the slop farms will create five bajillion articles

 

[511]

#2 was confirmed this morning-- at least that it wont have the bLLC and will release later. That would have been a pointless SKU anyway.

What it was the opposite that Raichu confirmed

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948256003461697769

 

[Markfw]

Why all this Intel talk in a Zen 6 thread ?

 

[Kaffeekenan]

I can't say or all the slop farms will create five bajillion articles

Can't see the problem with that honestly. Can you at least say if it is bad or good news and which product it is about?

 

[Kepler_L2]

Can't see the problem with that honestly. Can you at least say if it is bad or good news and which product it is about?

Wait for Razer Lake

 

[poke01]

Why all this Intel talk in a Zen 6 thread ?

Cause right now it’s more interesting than AMD beating Intel again lol

 

[511]

AMD and Intel thread only exists in name it is normal for Intel thread to become an AMD thread or vice versa if they can share the ISA why can't we share the thread 🤣

 

[poke01]

Wait for Razer Lake

I wonder what’s so bad about nova lake that people would wait for Razer Lake?

Unless I’m understanding this wrong.

 

[msj10]

But that cannot be the big news, a quarter delay with a niche product is nothing to write home about. The fuzz has to be about something substantial...like a cancellation of jaguar shores or something. Like big. Otherwise people would not be so freaking secretive.

some intel document have the bLLC skus missing so they are assuming it might be cancelled. that's all there is to it lol.

 

[LightningZ71]

That sounds suspiciously like someone stubbed their toe again on their P core design... Perhaps a very underwhelming benchmark is now incoming...

 

[Thibsie]

I wonder what’s so bad about nova lake that people would wait for Razer Lake?

Unless I’m understanding this wrong.

That's exactly how I interpret Kepler's post too.

 

[inquiss]

But that cannot be the big news, a quarter delay with a niche product is nothing to write home about. The fuzz has to be about something substantial...like a cancellation of jaguar shores or something. Like big. Otherwise people would not be so freaking secretive.

That niche product was their hope for the whole of DIY. AMD's cache models are niche overall for volume but are not niche for DIY.

 

[LightningZ71]

It's also a niche where AMD is continuing to get better with each generation. The cache die should be on an improved process for Zen6, which means it can run faster and generate less heat in the process as compared to what they currently use. It also does a lot to negate Intel's advantage in having a better memory controller implementation in many performance critical applications. They had to do something...

 

[adroc_thurston]

The cache die should be on an improved process for Zen6, which means it can run faster and generate less heat in the process as compared to what they currently us

Really not the limiting factor for caches per se.

Intel's advantage in having a better memory controller implementation

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo saying this after ARL-S

 

[inquiss]

Really not the limiting factor for caches per se.

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo saying this after ARL-S

I mean, they can use higher memory speeds, but yeah, it doesn't get them anything