Question Zen 4 builders thread

[Markfw]

I know its early, but as someone pointed out, I better get my ram now before the scalpers are all over it.

To go with a 7950x, what do you think of this ram:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374369?Item=N82E16820374369

(edited for my best recommendation, 12/5/2023)

 

[AdamK47]

I ran the CPU Curve Optimizer through Ryzen Master. All Core. Took a little less than 2 hours. During the whole time the program was playing really tense music. Towards the end the music got even more intense. When it finished there was a loud old school Windows "ta-da!" sound followed by the sound of a crowd cheering. A little streamer and confetti animation played while my score slowly zoomed into focus. -30 is what it displayed.

Put -30 in the BIOS Curve Optimizer and ran a quick Cinebench R20 run. Score increased by 400 points. Not bad.

About 15 seconds later the whole PC rebooted without warning.

Thanks AMD.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Thanks AMD.

You need to make that fanfare sound your Windows startup sound! I miss Windows startup sounds. I can't even figure out how to set up a custom one in Windows 11 without overwriting the default .wav file. Le sad face.

In any case automated overclocking is still probably not "there" yet.

 

[phillyman36]

Are all Expo kits supposed to work for all mobo or is there still qvc memory list? Microcenter is giving out free ddr5 5600 kits with the purchase of a cpu and mobo.

 

[gdansk]

I cannot get my non-EXPO Gskill kit to work at XMP profile.
But it started up on the first try so that's nice

 

[Markfw]

I cannot get my non-EXPO Gskill kit to work at XMP profile.
But it started up on the first try so that's nice

Ditto... A $400 (that is now $330) 6600 kit will not even POST. And the only 2 machines I have that take DDR5 are AMD

 

[gdansk]

Ditto... A $400 (that is now $330) 6600 kit will not even POST. And the only 2 machines I have that take DDR5 are AMD

well 5600mt/s did not seem ambitious
it seems to be working now after a BIOS update. I will run memtest to be sure

 

[Justinus]

Here's the AIDA result and the Ryzen Master screenshot for the memory config of the different permutations.

NO SETTINGS - EXPO profile enabled, special modes disabled.



LOW LATENCY - EXPO profile enabled, low latency setting enabled



HIGH BANDWIDTH - EXPO profile enabled, high bandwidth setting enabled



BOTH - EXPO profile enabled, low latency setting enabled, high bandwidth setting enabled

 

[alexruiz]

Hey guys
Is everyone going closed loop for cooling?
Or has anyone tried an air cooler?

 

[Markfw]

Hey guys
Is everyone going closed loop for cooling?
Or has anyone tried an air cooler?

when my memory comes wednesday, I will have a 250 watt air cooler working. Well, at least after I get it up and running.

 

[Leeea]

Hey guys
Is everyone going closed loop for cooling?
Or has anyone tried an air cooler?

Summary:
Runs just peachy on old low end air coolers.

 

[Joe NYC]

I know B650 has not been officially released, but there have been some pre-announcements.

Is anyone making B650E based Micro ATX motherboard?

 

[Tuna-Fish]

Is anyone making B650E based Micro ATX motherboard?

I think Asrock is making an ITX one. We'll know more in 2 hours.

 

[AdamK47]

CL32 is stable on my Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB at 6000. Prior instability must have been from also lowering tRCD and tRP. Kept both of those at 38 this time.

Trying CL30 now along with some of the tweaked secondary timings Justinus posted. So far it's 1 hour stable in stress tests.

 

[Abwx]

I think Asrock is making an ITX one. We'll know more in 2 hours.

Asus is also releasing one, although surely at higher price than Asrock, both are B650E based, so not the cheaper "low cost" chipset, we can expect Biostar to soon release quite affordable B650 ITXs..

B650(E)-Mainboards: Die Mittelklasse für Ryzen 7000 wird deutlich teurer

Asus, ASRock und MSI haben jetzt mit ihren B650(E)-Mainboards die AM5-Mittelklasse für AMD Ryzen 7000 („Raphael“) eingeläutet.

www.computerbase.de

 

[gdansk]

The unfortunate problems continue.
It doesn't seem stable at 5600MHz.
I guess you really, really want an EXPO kit.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The unfortunate problems continue.
It doesn't seem stable at 5600MHz.
I guess you really, really want an EXPO kit.

What about 5200 MT/s?

 

[Tuna-Fish]

Does anyone have any experience with Biostar motherboards? Their B650E board actually looks like the best one of the bunch as far as features go, but neither I or any of my friends have ever bought anything from them.

 

[Markfw]

What about 5200 MT/s?

I just gave up and got expo memory. at 5600 its just as fast as a 5950x, so 5200 would be worse.

 

[repoman0]

The unfortunate problems continue.
It doesn't seem stable at 5600MHz.
I guess you really, really want an EXPO kit.

I posted the subtimings from my 5600 EXPO kit a page or two back. Assuming the memory ICs themselves are similar (could be Samsung or Hynix though), setting all those manually should be the same thing, no?

 

[gdansk]

I posted the subtimings from my 5600 EXPO kit a page or two back. Assuming the memory ICs themselves are similar (could be Samsung or Hynix though), setting all those manually should be the same thing, no?

My sticks report Samsung. Are yours as well?
Also I am having the same ASRock sleep option missing problem.
Edit: Don't think it will work, mine are 2x32GB sticks

 

[Justinus]

My sticks report Samsung. Are yours as well?
Also I am having the same ASRock sleep option missing problem.

Is there a reliable way to read brand and die of DDR5 yet? Like thaiphoon burner or something? I am told the DDR5 6000CL30 EXPO kit I have is Micron but no idea how to tell which die (A or E?) without removing the heatspreaders.

 

[Markfw]

Is there a reliable way to read brand and die of DDR5 yet? Like thaiphoon burner or something? I am told the DDR5 6000CL30 EXPO kit I have is Micron but no idea how to tell which die (A or E?) without removing the heatspreaders.

What brand are yours ? Are they these ?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BFCV7JZ8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Justinus]

What brand are yours ? Are they these ?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BFCV7JZ8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Precisely. The UEFI reports them as Micron, but not what die they use.

 

[repoman0]

My sticks report Samsung. Are yours as well?
Also I am having the same ASRock sleep option missing problem.
Edit: Don't think it will work, mine are 2x32GB sticks

Ah, got it. Yeah, I’m waiting for some fast EXPO 64GB kits for a reasonable price. Using the free Microcenter 32GB kit for now.

Fyi the no sleep option thing seems to be more than an Asrock issue. I found posts on AMD.com from users of MSI and gigabyte boards as well saying they have no sleep option available when enabling EXPO profiles. Guessing it will be an AGESA level fix.

 

[AdamK47]

Precisely. The UEFI reports them as Micron, but not what die they use.

It's Hynix.

ASRock X670E Taichi Carrara

Supports AMD Ryzen™ 8000 and 7000 Series Processors<br />24+2+1 Phase Power Design, SPS for VCore+GT<br />4 x DDR5 DIMMs, supports up to 7800+(OC)<br />2 PCIe 5.0 x16<br />Graphics Output Options: 2 USB4 Type-C, 1 HDMI<br />Realtek ALC4082 5.1 CH HD Audio Codec,, ESS SABRE9218 DAC, WIMA Audio...

www.asrock.com

My memory is also Hynix. Not sure what flavor of Hynix.