Discussion Zen 3 Threadripper coming to DIY later this year...

eek2121

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This may be under discussion; however, I did not see an active thread for it. According to AMD, Threadripper Zen 3 chips are hitting DIY later this year:

We also expect to make these processors available to our DIY community later this year.
(source: VideoCardz)

An unexpected, yet welcome/pleasant surprise to be sure.

Don't expect the parts to be cheap, however. Most of the motherboards are north of $500, and that is easily the cheapest part of the build. Still, a welcome change from AMD. Cheers to AMD for surprising even me. 😏
 

lightmanek

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Moar cores!

But I will stick to my 5950x till Zen 4 lands.
Launch is very close as you can buy brand new 16 core Zen3 for less than £500 in retail ... I bet this will stay the best value/performance CPU even after Zen4 launches.
 
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At this point i would rather take 16 core Zen4 than 24 core Zen3 TR.
For most uses that would be sensible. However, if you need a lot of PCIe lanes then it is perhaps worth buying Zen 3.
I would have bought a 16 core Zen 3 TR had it been available at the time...
 
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Timmah!

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Different market segments. 8 Channel ECC RAM vs Dual(even if it's DDR4 vs DDR5) 100+ PCI lanes and overall superior/robust Platform

I dont need ECC RAM nor 8-channels i guess, but i could use lot of PCI lanes for multiple GPUs and bunch of M2 disks. Regarding number of cores, i suppose 16 is enough, but would prefer 24.
Based on this, I would say non-pro Threadripper would suit me the best. Or Intel successor to X299, if they can ever release it, regardless of the naming scheme.
 

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Benchmarks for the ThreadRipper by Puget Systems and it's just pounding on poor Ice Lake Xeons which were competitive with Zen2 based Thread Ripper

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That 24 Core Thread Ripper Pro it's faster than a 24C(8+16) Raptor lake even by the most optimistic paper math extrapolations.
 

nicalandia

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32-core Xeon slaughtered by 24-core Threadripper! :eek:

I think AMD marketing better rename this to Xeon Shredder :D

It also manage to beat the 38 Core 10nm Ice Lake CPU..

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Puget Systems includes the 12900K as a Workstation CPU options(and rightfully so because it outperforms the Skylake 16/18 core monsters that were Intel's HEDT CPUs not so long ago and matches the 5950X in MT), but that 24C/48T CPU is just a Giant Killer. Decimating much larger CPUs and I expect it to beat the 13900K Monster CPU comfortably.
 
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Timmah!

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That 24 core 5965 is indeed nice, but then again, 40000 multi score in CB23 is only great when compared to generation old TR3000s and IceLakes, which are at this point rather obsolete.

Compare it to mainstream CPUs to be sold in like 3, maybe 4 months (Zen3, Raptor Lake), which are both projected to score around 38k, so only slightly less, but presumably at significantly lower price. Suddenly it does not look that great.

EDIT: I wonder how that fabled 24 core SPR is going to manage. I presume at 4GHz all-core clock it could score around 45000. The question is, whether it will clock that high without burning 400W, lol.
 
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I wouldn’t think so. Maybe there are enough scavenged chipsets to expand Threadripper into retail markets, or more N7 wafers have become available??

Also possibilities. Who would be yielding N7 wafers to AMD, though? Or has TSMC increased production?
 
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Timmah!

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The China pricing presumably includes their VAT... so maybe?

Even then its too much. 3960x was IIRC 1500 EUR including VAT. If Intel follows the suit with that hypothetical SPR Xeon-W pricing (and as we know them, they most likely will and then some), then i guess no more "HEDT" platform for me anymore.