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Zell Miller was right

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Wait... was he right three years ago when he said the following about Kerry?

My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders - and a good friend.

He was once a lieutenant governor - but he didn't stay in that office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984.

In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.

Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.

John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made him a member of its "Digital Dozen."

John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 - when he defeated popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched Senate race in the country.

John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam Veterans of America.

He is married to Teresa Heinz and they have two daughters.

As many of you know, I have great affection - some might say an obsession - for my two Labrador retrievers, Gus and Woodrow. It turns out John is a fellow dog lover, too, and he better be. His German Shepherd, Kim, is about to have puppies. And I just want him to know ... Gus and Woodrow had nothing to do with that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome Senator John Kerry.

- Zell Miller, introducing John Kerry, Introduction of Senator John Kerry at the Democratic Party of Georgia's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, March 1, 2001
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The world has changed since 1970, even the UN has changed ... has become much more corrupt. sure Kerry made some dumb remarks during those days but Bush did some dumb things as well and we dont hold it against him. Lets be fair.
Kerry still today in his heart of hearts will want the UN permission before we take any action, but he wont admit that publicly
 
Zell Miller shows signs of the beginning stages of Alzheimer's Disease and the Republican Party took advantage of him. Shameful.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Wait... was he right three years ago when he said the following about Kerry?

My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders - and a good friend.

He was once a lieutenant governor - but he didn't stay in that office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984.

In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.

Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.

John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made him a member of its "Digital Dozen."

John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 - when he defeated popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched Senate race in the country.

John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam Veterans of America.

He is married to Teresa Heinz and they have two daughters.

As many of you know, I have great affection - some might say an obsession - for my two Labrador retrievers, Gus and Woodrow. It turns out John is a fellow dog lover, too, and he better be. His German Shepherd, Kim, is about to have puppies. And I just want him to know ... Gus and Woodrow had nothing to do with that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome Senator John Kerry.

- Zell Miller, introducing John Kerry, Introduction of Senator John Kerry at the Democratic Party of Georgia's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, March 1, 2001
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:roll:
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When asked about this, Zell said that he was asked to introduce Kerry at the event and asked for an mini Bio. Zell said that he was given a sheet of paper to use to introduce Kerry with and he ran with it. Zell said that he regrets not doing his own research on Kerry until well after the event.

That is what Zell said when asked.
🙂
 
Originally posted by: Strk
I like how it doesn't matter what happened to Bush when he was 20-40, but everything Kerry did in his youth is as important as if it happened an hour ago.
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Bush isn't running on what he did when he was 20 - 40... Kerry is.

If Bush were to run on the fact that he wasn't a substance abuser in his 20's - 40's then he'd get the same reactions that Kerry is getting.
 
Originally posted by: wiin
So Zell Miller was right.
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Yes, very FAR right, all the way to the outermost reaches of the Moronosphere by way of the Stupidizone[/b].

Zell Miller needs serious pharmaceutical assistance. :frown:

 
People live in families and love their families and neighborhoods and love their neighborhoods and towns and cities and counties and states and love all these too. Then the live in the US and love the United States, but when you mention "WORLD GOVERNMENT" the vomit and see the Second Coming and Armageddon. People like Kerry who are a bit smarter are thought of as stupid. And some wonder why people lack the capacity of self reflection. Hehe, three guesses why we don't see what a joke we are.

What you fear about the UN was done to you by your Mother.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Hahaha, libs calling troll. You pwned them badly.

The same libs call Bush a flipflopper on abortion because of what he said in 1973.
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When you say libs, as in plural, I assume you are referring to conjur's multiple personalities...
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LMAO!!! 10/10!
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
It is interesting how they hold all of this stuff against a young John Kerry.. How many years ago was 1970?
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Yet it's ok for the left to keep talking about W's Guard service during the same time period. Hypocrisy?

 
Yet it's ok for the left to keep talking about W's Guard service during the same time period. Hypocrisy?
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What bush did, ditching out in Boston, was subject to being put on active duty for 24 months (that mean Vietnam). Now he is sending todays young soldiers to their death. Do you see the relevance yet or do you need a crayon drawing?
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
My starting score for trolls is 4, since it's inherently a pretty pathetic gambit.

- 1 for citing Zell Miller as a worthwhile reference

- 1 for including no real content - to me any troll that includes only 5 original words, two of which are "Zell Miller," lacks innovation, and implies a sad lack of analytical skills (and, for that matter, social skills)

- 1 for citing a 34-year-old article, from a student newspaper, with no link

- 1 for the use of boldface, in a blatant effort to distract readers' attention from wholesale lack of content.

Total score = 0

No :cookie: for you! :thumbsdown:





Kudos for attracting an adoring sycophant, though!

<----------------------------pictures lordtyranus making a cute, homemade wiin scrapbook, complete with construction-paper hearts and teddy bears
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LOL 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
Yet it's ok for the left to keep talking about W's Guard service during the same time period. Hypocrisy?
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What bush did, ditching out in Boston, was subject to being put on active duty for 24 months (that mean Vietnam). Now he is sending todays young soldiers to their death. Do you see the relevance yet or do you need a crayon drawing?
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You talk as if you have all the facts and are completely familiar with all aspects of this topic, but you don't and you aren't. Twist it as you will, as you always have, and always will. You probably don't know how the point system worked at the time, do you? Did you serve in the military during that time in the same capacity?


Points

So, to answer your question...I don't need a crayon drawing. Feel free to give my asscrack a tongue-wash, though.
 
The second document, which Bartlett said the White House had not yet obtained, is Bush's personnel record card for the period of May 27, 1972, to May 26, 1973. As is the case with Guard members, Bush, the card shows, was generally given 2 points for each day of weekend training.

But this card, unlike those for the other years of Bush's service, does not itemize Bush's individual day of service; it gives only a total. The personnel record card also indicates that Bush was on flying status, even though he never flew for his unit after April 1972.
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Ya, I buy that Bush was given points he deserved... it pretty much fact that they ignored that he wasn't there and discharged him anyway. There are now piles of docs and articles that go against Bush fufilling his duty, but ignore it as you will.

On July 30, 1973, shortly before he moved from Houston to Cambridge, Bush signed a document that declared, ''It is my responsibility to locate and be assigned to another Reserve forces unit or mobilization augmentation position. If I fail to do so, I am subject to involuntary order to active duty for up to 24 months. . . " Under Guard regulations, Bush had 60 days to locate a new unit.

But Bush never signed up with a Boston-area unit. In 1999, Bush spokesman Dan Bartlett told the Washington Post that Bush finished his six-year commitment at a Boston area Air Force Reserve unit after he left Houston. Not so, Bartlett now concedes. ''I must have misspoke," Bartlett, who is now the White House communications director, said in a recent interview.

And early in his Guard service, on May 27, 1968, Bush signed a ''statement of understanding" pledging to achieve ''satisfactory participation" that included attendance at 24 days of annual weekend duty -- usually involving two weekend days each month -- and 15 days of annual active duty. ''I understand that I may be ordered to active duty for a period not to exceed 24 months for unsatisfactory participation," the statement reads.

Yet Bush, a fighter-interceptor pilot, performed no service for one six-month period in 1972 and for another period of almost three months in 1973, the records show.

The reexamination of Bush's records by the Globe, along with interviews with military specialists who have reviewed regulations from that era, show that Bush's attendance at required training drills was so irregular that his superiors could have disciplined him or ordered him to active duty in 1972, 1973, or 1974. But they did neither. In fact, Bush's unit certified in late 1973 that his service had been ''satisfactory" -- just four months after Bush's commanding officer wrote that Bush had not been seen at his unit for the previous 12 months.
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http://www.boston.com/news/nat..._duty_at_guard?mode=PF

 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Wait... was he right three years ago when he said the following about Kerry?

My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders - and a good friend.

He was once a lieutenant governor - but he didn't stay in that office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984.

In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.

Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.

John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made him a member of its "Digital Dozen."

John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 - when he defeated popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched Senate race in the country.

John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam Veterans of America.

He is married to Teresa Heinz and they have two daughters.

As many of you know, I have great affection - some might say an obsession - for my two Labrador retrievers, Gus and Woodrow. It turns out John is a fellow dog lover, too, and he better be. His German Shepherd, Kim, is about to have puppies. And I just want him to know ... Gus and Woodrow had nothing to do with that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome Senator John Kerry.

- Zell Miller, introducing John Kerry, Introduction of Senator John Kerry at the Democratic Party of Georgia's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, March 1, 2001
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:roll:
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When asked about this, Zell said that he was asked to introduce Kerry at the event and asked for an mini Bio. Zell said that he was given a sheet of paper to use to introduce Kerry with and he ran with it. Zell said that he regrets not doing his own research on Kerry until well after the event.

That is what Zell said when asked.
🙂
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You really believe that don't you? I doubt they gave him a piece of paper that said to refer to Kerry as a good friend....but hey....if you believe that whack job, more power to you I guess.

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I didn't say I believe it. I was just posting what he said when questioned.

Hellfire, one of the scariest things about this particular election is that it is difficult to believe a word that anyone says on either side. This, without a doubt, the nastiest, dirtiest, most hateful election I have ever experienced in my life.

🙂
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: alchemize
Jeez, DonVito, are you the chinese judge?

You see - Trolling is like the special olympics. Everyone wins, everyone gets a medal!! You have to be generous 😉
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I do award a special medal for those who score 0. It's brown, but it doesn't include any chocolate chips . . .
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"Is this is a poopie, or a toblarone?" - Stewie.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
It is interesting how they hold all of this stuff against a young John Kerry.. How many years ago was 1970?
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yes, it was a long time ago, but if really thought differently today, why doesnt he just appologize for what he said about the veterans and all the other irrational things he said then?
 
""So, my critics can call me a psychopath and fire spitballs at me and froth at the mouth when an ex-president sends me a nasty letter. That's the freedom of speech they all enjoy, courtesy of the American soldier." Senator Zell Miller "

Funny that Zell Miller would be giving credit to someone like John Kerry for the ability to make this statement. And then there's G.W. Bush, who was AWOL, arrested for drunk driving, arrested for possession of cocaine, lied about WMD's to justify a war against IRAQ...... Why go on, you either see the truth or you don't.
 
Originally posted by: conehead433
""So, my critics can call me a psychopath and fire spitballs at me and froth at the mouth when an ex-president sends me a nasty letter. That's the freedom of speech they all enjoy, courtesy of the American soldier." Senator Zell Miller "

Funny that Zell Miller would be giving credit to someone like John Kerry for the ability to make this statement. And then there's G.W. Bush, who was AWOL, arrested for drunk driving, arrested for possession of cocaine, lied about WMD's to justify a war against IRAQ...... Why go on, you either see the truth or you don't.
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I guess you don't 😉 Again, nobody can prove that Bush lied about anything yet.

 
Originally posted by: DonVito
My starting score for trolls is 4, since it's inherently a pretty pathetic gambit.

- 1 for citing Zell Miller as a worthwhile reference

- 1 for including no real content - to me any troll that includes only 5 original words, two of which are "Zell Miller," lacks innovation, and implies a sad lack of analytical skills (and, for that matter, social skills)

- 1 for citing a 34-year-old article, from a student newspaper, with no link

- 1 for the use of boldface, in a blatant effort to distract readers' attention from wholesale lack of content.

Total score = 0

No :cookie: for you! :thumbsdown:





Kudos for attracting an adoring sycophant, though!

<----------------------------pictures lordtyranus making a cute, homemade wiin scrapbook, complete with construction-paper hearts and teddy bears
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Actually the total score would have to be -1, since there is a mandatory 1 point deduction for not attempting to make any sort of actual point. "Zell Miller was right"? Right about what? What exactly are we arguing here. It's the worst kind of trolling, it's a broad statement that means NOTHING, yet is obviously posted because the poster thinks it makes him look smart.
 
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