Zap's Mini Review: Asus P5QPL-AM

Zap

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Zap's Mini Review: Asus P5QPL-AM

(Purchased from Newegg for $49.99 with free shipping)

The Asus P5QPL-AM is a low-priced motherboard for socket LGA 775 based on the Intel G41 chipset for all Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad processors. It was on special at Newegg for $50 shipped (normally $65 plus shipping) making it priced closer to G31 chipset boards, so it piqued my interest.

SPECIFICATIONS

Asus P5QPL-AM motherboard
Intel G41 chipset with ICH7
Supports socket LGA 775 Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad
Supports FSB 800/1066/1333
Two DDR2 slots for dual channel operation, 8GB max
one PCI Express 1.1 x16, one PCI Express x1, two PCI slots
four SATA 3Gb/s and one IDE
Realtek audio with 6 channels
Atheros gigabit ethernet
Intel GMA X4500 onboard video with VGA output
Micro ATX form factor

TEST CONFIGURATION

Asus P5QPL-AM motherboard
4GB (2x2GB) Patriot Viper DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 2.1v
Core 2 Duo E7300 (266MHz FSB, 2.66GHz stock)
BFG LS-550 power supply
Samsung 1TB 7200RPM HDD
HP DVD/CDRW

BIOS

AMI BIOS
CPU Q-Fan Control disabled/enabled

Voltages:
Memory 1.36-1.50v in 0.075v increments, 1.50-2.445v in 0.015v increments
NB Voltage auto/1.125v/1.175v/1.225v/1.275v
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.5v/1.6v

FSB 133-800MHz

Memory multipliers auto/667/800/1066

IMPRESSIONS

This is a really tiny board for micro ATX. Any smaller and it would be Flex ATX. The board is pretty basic except for the inclusion of gigabit Ethernet using an Atheros chipset. I have to admit that I?ve never seen a non-wireless Atheros chipset before. This board will make for a decent workstation or gaming setup because of the onboard graphics plus PCI Express x16 slot (1.1, not 2.0) and gigabit Ethernet.

The layout is really nice with the 4-pin +12v next to the PS/2 plugs, the 24-pin ATX on the edge and the four SATA ports along the bottom edge and out of the way of large graphics cards. That makes this board useful in a micro ATX gaming setup.

While Smart Fan (ahem, ?CPU Q-Fan?) is supported, it is just a basic enable/disable with no finer controls. This is a minor disappointment.

BIOS AND OVERCLOCKING

The AMI BIOS was really similar to the one on the Foxconn G45 chipset board I reviewed previously as far as layout and feel are concerned. Strangely enough, the Foxconn board had much more settings that would be of interest to overclockers/enthusiasts. While the Asus board allowed memory latency, multiplier and voltage adjustments, the multiplier adjustments left a lot to be desired since with my 266MHz (1066MHz) FSB CPU the lowest multiplier was 2.5x (667) so overclocking the CPU means eventually overclocking the RAM. The only saving grace was RAM voltages to a dangerous 2.445v.

One interesting thing was RAM undervolting to 1.36v. I?ve heard about vendors coming out with lower voltage DDR2 and DDR3, but that stuff seems pretty rare so this is of dubious value.

The CPU overclocking was actually pretty lackluster for an Asus board, probably because this was meant to be really low end. There were pre-set profiles of 5%/10%/15%/20% plus a ?test mode? that I?m not sure what it does. The FSB can be set from 133-800MHz. Yikes! Of course anything above 350-400MHz-ish is probably useless on a board like this, so I don?t know why they even include those speeds besides being a features checkbox. CPU multiplier is also available from the lowest 6x common to all Core 2 Duo CPUs to the maximum of the CPU (in the case of the E7300, 10x) in 0.5x increments.

Along with chipset and memory voltage adjustments, this all sounds great for overclockers, right? Uh, wait, where?s the CPU voltage adjustment? DOH! I was unable to clock much past 3GHz. At 3.33GHz (333MHz FSB, 10x multiplier) system would boot Windows but wouldn?t run Orthos or even World of Warcraft. I don?t know if it lacked CPU voltage (very likely) or if the memory wasn?t stable at 830MHz (not as likely, I ran at loose latencies and high voltages).

There was one very interesting possibility with this board. It has multiplier adjustments down to 6x and FSB down to 133MHz, and those settings actually worked!!! Unlike on the Gigabyte G31 chipset board where FSB settings started at 100MHz but actually didn?t work below CPU?s stock FSB, this board worked fine at 6x133MHz, meaning you can underclock any Core 2 Duo class CPU to 800MHz. Why would you want to? Well, to save electricity for a low powered server or workstation. But wait, the lack of CPU voltage adjustments, specifically undervolting, makes this almost useless. At least with the Gigabyte board you can undervolt and lower the multiplier.

This board has an interesting feature called Asus Turbo Key. It requires software to be installed and configured from the driver/utility disc. It basically turns your power switch into a turbo switch (while in Windows). This adds dynamic one-touch overclocking to make you feel better about the board being a sucktacular nonoverclocker.

The Asus Turbo Key software has three settings once enabled. The stock FSB of my setup was 266MHz. Here are the options available:
Race Car 268MHz
Jet Plane 273MHz
Rocket 279MHz
This is just a basic and nominal bump of the FSB. It is gimmicky, but does work as advertised. It does require the Asus Turbo Key software to be running in the background though, so I?d personally still clock it up on a more permanent basis from BIOS and leave EIST enabled to downclock the system as necessary.

IGP PERFORMANCE

This is the first time I will be testing the IGP (integrated graphics processor) as part of a motherboard review. The reason is that I was curious as to how good the ?best? Intel IGP can be. Technically the X4500HD is better, but it only adds video decoding to the vanilla X4500? I think. System was not overclocked and I used drivers from the driver CD.

Call of Duty 4 (seta cg_drawFPS 1)
(fresh install, no patches)
1680x1050, no AA, optimal settings 5-7 FPS
1680x1050, lowest settings 14-20 FPS
1280x768, lowest settings 18-33 FPS
640x480, lowest settings 37-75 FPS

OMG COD4 was actually almost playable if image quality is tanked! I?m actually surprised at two things. First, COD4 actually worked. Second, COD4 actually doesn?t look all that bad with stuff turned down. One interesting thing was that even at 640x480 the in-game menu (choosing teams/class) was really laggy

World of Warcraft (CTRL-R)
(patched to current as of 08/26/09)
1680x1050 resolution, location Darnassus
Preset Low 34-50 FPS
Preset Fair 22-30 FPS
Preset Good 13-17 FPS
Preset Ultra ?The igxprd32 display driver has stopped working normally.?

The presets are on the main slider bar in the video options. When I tested lower resolutions everything looked like absolute crap, so I tested at the monitor?s native resolution. This might be because there is always text and a lot of little details on the screen, unlike in COD4 where there are objects and textures. Not sure if I?m explaining it right.

WoW is actually pretty playable in Low and even Fair settings. Fair looks a hell of a lot better than Low. Setting it up all the way kills the driver, so I guess the game tries to do stuff that isn?t supported.

CONCLUSION

This board is a great value for $50 (or even $65) considering it is price-competitive with G31 chipset boards and has better integrated graphics.

Serious overclockers can pass on this board, but it can make for a nice gaming setup (with external graphics) or a nice non-gaming workstation.
 

Zap

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Second post reserved for followups or pictures if/when available.
 

kmmatney

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Just noticed this review - thanks. I'm using this board right now, paired with a Celeron E3200. This is just a temporary solution for me, until I make my next upgrade. The Celeron E3200 was the cheapest CPU I could get that supported Windows XP mode, and overall its worked out well.

As you say, the major weakness for overclocking the board is the lack of voltage adjustment. The Celeron E3200 starts off at 2.4 Ghz, and I can't get the system stable above 2.8 Ghz. I am certain that the lack of voltage adjustment on the CPU is holding things back - I may even see if I can mod the pins on the CPU to force a higher voltage.
So, currently the FSB speed is 234 Mhz.

Otherwise it's not a bad motherboard at all, and it runs my HD4890 OK. I bet there are not too many people who have this MB, paired with this sort of video card!
 

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45nm E3200 should be able to break 3.0GHz at default Vcore. Both of my E3200s were stable at 3.5GHz with stock voltage on an MSI G31TM-P21 (G31/ICH7) board. This 1600MHz FSB rated board lacks Vcore adjustment. Smart fan is very effective with a 4-pin PWM CPU cooler (3-pins fan runs at full speed). Overall a very good value DDR2 board with a large NB heat sink. Final cost of this combo after $10 rebate is $30.

It retails for $47 @ Frys with a $10 rebate. Based on this Asus review, I think the MSI board is much better suited for overclocking Intel Core 2 dual and quad CPUs.
 

kmmatney

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45nm E3200 should be able to break 3.0GHz at default Vcore. Both of my E3200s were stable at 3.5GHz with stock voltage on an MSI G31TM-P21 (G31/ICH7) board. This 1600MHz FSB rated board lacks Vcore adjustment. Smart fan is very effective with a 4-pin PWM CPU cooler (3-pins fan runs at full speed). Overall a very good value DDR2 board with a large NB heat sink. Final cost of this combo after $10 rebate is $30.

It retails for $47 @ Frys with a $10 rebate. Based on this Asus review, I think the MSI board is much better suited for overclocking Intel Core 2 dual and quad CPUs.

I was hoping that I'd be able to get to at least 3.0 Ghz on stock voltage with my E3200, but Windows 7 hangs if I go much above 2.8 Ghz. My memory is already underclocked, and getting the correct voltage. The only thing I haven't touched is the NB voltage, but I'm only running the FSB at 250 Mhz to reach a 3.0 Ghz overclock, so I shouldn't have to touch the NB voltage. I have a "huge" heatsink on my E3200 and cooling is not an issue. So either I have a bum E3200, or this motherboard is a mediocre overclocker and holding things back.
 

E4300

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It's possible that you have a bum CPU. I built a few rigs last year based on the older 65mn E1400 CPU and a similar MSI G31 board rated up to 1333 MHz operation. All cracked 3.0GHz at stock Vcore. The 45nm E3200 CPU should be a higher-binned chip capable of 3.0-3.2GHz at stock voltage. NB voltage should not be an issue with these high-multi chips. I use the stock 4-pin PWM CPU heat sink with a peak thermal load of 52C @ 3.5GHz in 76F room.

Have you updated the board's BIOS? I prefer Biostar or MSI at the lower end. Gigabyte dominates the mid to high. Asus boards are more expensive if equipped with the same options. In general, the cheap Asus boards tend to be mediocre at overclocking.
 

Tsavo

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I have this board with an E3200 and it can do 3.1 GHz. Might be able to push more but my RAM won't let me.

Good board for the money (if on sale), boots very fast!
 

jrichrds

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Although there is no voltage control in the BIOS, does voltage automatically increase on this motherboard when you overclock? It doesn't seem to be the case given its limited OC capability, but I read a review that indicated it did.

Perhaps it matters whether you use the preset overclocks (e.g. 20%) or set the FSB manually?
 

cynic783

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250 FSB and 6-6-6-18 mem timings
all voltage set to auto, using integrated grfx
8 hours dual-prime95 stable, 8 hours memtest86+ stable
Win 7 X64 WEI 6.5, 5.9, 4.8, 4.7, 5.9

Not bad for $35 for CPU, $52.99 for board at Microcenter.

Oh, and using stock HSF.

Would I like vcore adjustment? Yes. Maybe next bios release will have it.

Dan
 

Vishu_Sawant

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Hi friends,
Ok dont laugh if I say anything strange here. I am using this board , bought it a week back. I have NVIDIA 9600 GT graphic card. Would it be fine for gaming. I am not an extreme gamer but I do like to play games like FIFA and few others.
I tried installing FIFA 09 but the game doesnt start. It shows some error message like Intel Graphic Accelerator required. What is it?

P.S. I have zero knowledge about hardware and stuff. :p
 

Llandudnoboy

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():)After the sad demise of my second Striker Extreme board i thought i must be crazy to fork out big money when possibly a cheaper board would do.

The P5Q does not get any cheaper in computer terms even my Crucial memory cost me more to purchase but the end result is trully impressive.

Its only negative aspect is that i can no longer run my twin 8800 KO GTx cards in Sli but when you are pushing your system to its max that's when your board might throw in the towel.

I'm still using my Quad Core extreme processor and over specified 1000w Thermaltake Powersupply but Windows 7 Ultimate runs like a dream and even the chipset will allow me to play a few games at their highest spec.

The one aspect that i did notice is that whilst benchmarking my system with Crysis on its highest settings my computer ran slightly :\cooler.

Granted this basic board does not have any of the Strikers superior overlocking facilities or impressive cooling pipes but i notice very little difference in performance from my previous set up.

Now i could have forked out yet another fortune for a top end board but when you have cooked two within two years of each other what's the point when that 680i chipset may be to blame.

I believe its been replaced by the faster and more responsive 780i chipset but at a cost.

All these boards are made in China for peanuts and because some look prettier than others you are charged considerably more for the pleasure of ownership.

Unless you are seriously into overlocking and watercooling your system a budget board such as this P5Q may perform just as well as a top line Striker as long as your other equipment is high end material.:\