Zaped MY 1.2Ghz Cel

[Compnut]

I didn't realize the traces from the pins to the core are on the top of the cpu and I cut one or more of them when I was removing the heat spreder, expensive lesson. If you remove the heat spredder from the 1.2 cel. be sure and keep the razor blad flat so you will not do what I foolishly did.

 

[TuffGuy]

stupid question, but why would you want to remove the heat spreader?

 

[bacillus]

<< stupid question, but why would you want to remove the heat spreader? >>


for better cooling as it's one less interface for the heat to get thru to the hsf!

 

[JmsAndrsn]

<< I didn't realize the traces from the pins to the core are on the top of the cpu and I cut one or more of them when I was removing the heat spreder, expensive lesson. If you remove the heat spredder from the 1.2 cel. be sure and keep the razor blad flat so you will not do what I foolishly did. >>



I did the same thing with my PIII 1.2. There wasn't any visible damage though. In my opinion, it's not quite worth it.

 

[chemhaqr]

Yeah I killed a 1.2PIII .13u too but what in the wolrd. After that I told everyone the better way to do it. I thought I gave great pic tutorial to remove the spreader. And I will tell you what it is in the OCr's best interest if he is careful to remove it if he wants to cool his chip off better. I am at 1600MHz right now but if I would have left the IHS on I would not be. It is that simple. Man I thought you were one of the guys that I showed how to do it the right way like this. I didn't put a scratch on my chip when I did it like this and neither did this guy here. He folowed my detailed instructions and everything went fine I guess for him and he saw a 4 deg. C drop in load temps with his sock478 PIV. Once again for those that think it will take along time to take off; if you do it like I showed in my pic tutorial it will take about 30 sec to 1 min to remove. I have given explanations on how to do this 100 times now. Guess not every one listens. Also don't use a buck knife You needed the thinnest razor blade you could find and if it was not as thin or thinner than the ones in this pic tutorial then it wouldn't cut it. The best are the old fashioned razor blades you can find at any "Mom and Pop Hardware Store." The gap underneath the IHS is evident but very thin. Using a thick razor blade or god forbid a knife will give results as you saw above. A dead little celery. Personally I don't care if anyone tries this or not but if you do would you please do it wisely and quit scaring every one that wants to get the max from their cpu.


I guess I hate it that my little tualatin died in vain. Iwas the first I know of to take off the IHS to find out that the glue that held down the IHS was silicone. If I wouldn't have taken it apart no one would have known cause intel sure wouldn't have told us. I think I know of 3 people know that have sucessfully taken their IHS's off. I also know of three others that weren't so lucky and they are all in this thread. James, compnut and ME. But as I said I had to figure out what the glue was that haeld the cpu down. I used a shi#en hacksaw to get my first IHS off cause I figured they used epoxy or something like that to glue the IHS down. Nope it is soft silicone. You know if you can see where you cut one of the circuts you may be able to either fix it using conductive pens.If you got it off how hard would it be to connect the circut?

 

[Jerboy]

<< I guess I hate it that my little tualatin died in vain. Iwas the first I know of to take off the IHS to find out that the glue that held down the IHS was silicone. If I wouldn't have taken it apart no one would have known cause intel sure wouldn't have told us. I think I know of 3 people know that have sucessfully taken their IHS's off. I also know of three others that weren't so lucky and they are all in this thread. James, compnut and ME. But as I said I had to figure out what the glue was that haeld the cpu down. I used a shi#en hacksaw to get my first IHS off cause I figured they used epoxy or something like that to glue the IHS down. Nope it is soft silicone. You know if you can see where you cut one of the circuts you may be able to either fix it using conductive pens or if it isn't visible you could RMA it. Yeah I know that is a shi#y thing to do but............

If you got it off how hard would it be to connect the circut? Or simply using black silicone reglue the IHS back on? >>



RMA it?! It is a fraud to return something you're clearly aware that it was damaged by your modification and/or error.

It is people like you that makes it a pain for people legitimately returning stuff. Your little tip should be sent to Intel and vendors so they can be warned to check for evidence of attempted modification before okaying credit or exchange on returns.



to vendors: read his modification plan so you can tell where to look. Cover the suspected area with yellow high lighter marker and smear it around with tissue. When placed under ultraviolet light(a.k.a blacklight) the whole area will glow yellow green. Damaged area shows up as distinctive bright lines or spots. I have tested this with soda can and it has contrasted out razor scratches almost invisible to naked eye.

 

[Compnut]

Like I said I didn't realise the traces were on the top of the cpu so I was careless and cut some of them, if I had kept the razor blade flat I would not have done that. I removed the hearspreder because the cpu was running hot and the heatsink was cool so the heat transfer between the heatspreder had to be poor. The cpu core is stuck to the heatspreder with some silver looking gunk that can be removed with mek and is not in contact with it. Did this post to advise anyone removing the heatspreder not to make the same mistake. My new 1.2 cel is due in tomorrow, got it from Buy.com.

 

[Spikesoldier]

That silvery gunk is most likely thermal paste/compound. I wouldn't touch that if I didn't want to reapply it - But I doubt its enough when you remove the heat spreader and want to just slap the bare core on a heatsink/fan. You would probably need to put another helping of your favorite thermal compound on first.

 

[chemhaqr]

<< << I guess I hate it that my little tualatin died in vain. Iwas the first I know of to take off the IHS to find out that the glue that held down the IHS was silicone. If I wouldn't have taken it apart no one would have known cause intel sure wouldn't have told us. I think I know of 3 people know that have sucessfully taken their IHS's off. I also know of three others that weren't so lucky and they are all in this thread. James, compnut and ME. But as I said I had to figure out what the glue was that haeld the cpu down. I used a shi#en hacksaw to get my first IHS off cause I figured they used epoxy or something like that to glue the IHS down. Nope it is soft silicone. You know if you can see where you cut one of the circuts you may be able to either fix it using conductive pens or if it isn't visible you could RMA it. Yeah I know that is a shi#y thing to do but............

If you got it off how hard would it be to connect the circut? Or simply using black silicone reglue the IHS back on? >>



RMA it?! It is a fraud to return something you're clearly aware that it was damaged by your modification and/or error.

It is people like you that makes it a pain for people legitimately returning stuff. Your little tip should be sent to Intel and vendors so they can be warned to check for evidence of attempted modification before okaying credit or exchange on returns.



to vendors: read his modification plan so you can tell where to look. Cover the suspected area with yellow high lighter marker and smear it around with tissue. When placed under ultraviolet light(a.k.a blacklight) the whole area will glow yellow green. Damaged area shows up as distinctive bright lines or spots. I have tested this with soda can and it has contrasted out razor scratches almost invisible to naked eye. >>



Not sure what you are ranting about here. Who said anything about RMA'n a chip. Seems you are the one giving us ideas

 

[Jerboy]

<<
Not sure what you are ranting about here. Who said anything about RMA'n a chip. Seems you are the one giving us ideas >>




I believe the user "chemhaqr" was responsible for the main idea of committing a fraud if you could get a way with it and this is a proof quote. The original post is no longer available, because it has been altered by original author.





<< I guess I hate it that my little tualatin died in vain. Iwas the first I know of to take off the IHS to find out that the glue that held down the IHS was silicone. If I wouldn't have taken it apart no one would have known cause intel sure wouldn't have told us. I think I know of 3 people know that have sucessfully taken their IHS's off. I also know of three others that weren't so lucky and they are all in this thread. James, compnut and ME. But as I said I had to figure out what the glue was that haeld the cpu down. I used a shi#en hacksaw to get my first IHS off cause I figured they used epoxy or something like that to glue the IHS down. Nope it is soft silicone. You know if you can see where you cut one of the circuts you may be able to either fix it using conductive pens or if it isn't visible you could RMA it. Yeah I know that is a shi#y thing to do but............ >>

Original author was Mr. chemhaqr.

 

[chemhaqr]

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Not sure what you are ranting about here. Who said anything about RMA'n a chip. Seems you are the one giving us ideas >>




I believe the user "chemhaqr" was responsible for the main idea of committing a fraud if you could get a way with it and this is a proof quote. The original post is no longer available, because it has been altered by original author.





<< I guess I hate it that my little tualatin died in vain. Iwas the first I know of to take off the IHS to find out that the glue that held down the IHS was silicone. If I wouldn't have taken it apart no one would have known cause intel sure wouldn't have told us. I think I know of 3 people know that have sucessfully taken their IHS's off. I also know of three others that weren't so lucky and they are all in this thread. James, compnut and ME. But as I said I had to figure out what the glue was that haeld the cpu down. I used a shi#en hacksaw to get my first IHS off cause I figured they used epoxy or something like that to glue the IHS down. Nope it is soft silicone. You know if you can see where you cut one of the circuts you may be able to either fix it using conductive pens or if it isn't visible you could RMA it. Yeah I know that is a shi#y thing to do but............ >>




Original author was Mr. chemhaqr. >>






Original author was Jerboi!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't have implied anyone do anything discrepant. Not sure what you are trying to do here?

Maybe you could tell us your thoughs on removing the IHS?

Do you think it is a good idea for helping to control temps better or do you think people should not OC either? Do you understand the physics involved with IHS removal and the lowering of load and idle temps.

Do you know why intel put it there in the first place?

Well do ya?

You think it helps spread heat?

 

[Jerboy]

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Original author was Jerboi!!!!!!!!!!
>>



Quit blaming me for your own act. geez


Evidence of tampering


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Edited: Tuesday 20, November, 2001 at 11:19 PM by chemhaqr "





<< Maybe you could tell us your thoughs on removing the IHS? >>



Whatever you do, reducing thermal resistor between heat source and heatsink reduces thermal resistance, however heatspreader may actually help spread heat. Heatsink is actually a "resistance" between air and CPU core, but it provides heatspreading.




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Do you think it is a good idea for helping to control temps better or do you think people should not OC either? Do you understand the physics involved with IHS removal and the lowering of load and idle temps. >>



I'm not sure whether it helps or not and I do understand the basic concept you're looking into.




<< Do you know why intel put it there in the first place? >>



I'm not Intel and I would rather not comment than give an inaccurate answer.

Thank you,

 

[chemhaqr]

Edited: Wednesday 21, November, 2001 at 3:25 AM by Jerboi

Must have been some tampering here too huh.

Well I am not going to argue with ya. You think cause intel takes a duck and calls it a cow its a cow I guess there is no getting it past ya? You are very perceptive.

 

[Dill]

boo friggin hoo, so he RMA's a chip he damaged. It's been going on for a long time, and will continue for a long time to come.




That being said, have I ever done it? Nope, I've never damaged a CPU of my own.

 

[Jerboy]

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Edited: Wednesday 21, November, 2001 at 3:25 AM by Jerboi

Must have been some tampering here too huh.

Well I am not going to argue with ya. You think cause intel takes a duck and calls it a cow its a cow I guess there is no getting it past ya? You are very perceptive. >>



Yup I did a minor fixing.. I messed up on the bracket thing and forgot to remove /q thingy somewhere and all my words showed up as someone's quote. As much as I feel sorry for those who accidentally damage their CPU's, its equally unacceptable to shove it up retailer's ass.