zalman installed - Ack, something wrong! Help!

cboath

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I removed the existing fan/plate (sheesh, use enough thermal tape??)..

cleaned the gpu and ram sinks and mosfets with goof off and alcohol.

All seemed very clean in the end.

Put on new sinks (hard to stick them on the mosfets because they're much smaller.

Put the fan on (with AS5), tightened little by little.

Old fan was 50-51 on boot up with fan profiles starting at 50 or 60% fan speed (don't recall which)

New start up temp is 39-40. So it lowered things 10-12 degrees. 20-25 over not using fan profiles.

Going to let it burn in an hour or so and hope the mosfet that fell off and that was re-attached with a bit of superglue holds. One freaking sink for one little mosfet. Not much to hold to :)

These results sound like what I should get moving to the VF-900? Tis my first manually added gpu fan.

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Something seems to have gone wrong. I can't play any game (bioshock, crysis) without it locking up after 5-10 minutes and simply getting the error "(program) has stopped working"..what'd i do wrong??

Temps don't seem have passed 46-47 either.
 

cboath

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I don't know what this means, but after putting in the new sink, both games i've tried so far come up in windowed mode instead of full screen. Don't know what would cause that, but i set them back to full screen.
 

ja1484

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I doubt the aftermarket cooling did all this, but let's get some hay in the barn first...

1) Are you monitoring temperatures IN GAME? NOT checking right after exiting...I mean during gameplay or stress test.

2) Have you done a fresh driver install?

3) Remove the sink on the mosfet that you attached with superglue, and make sure you clean all that glue off. Superglue is NOT what you should be using for sink attachment. If you can get the sink to stay on after removing the glue, just leave the mosfet naked - it's better off that way rather than under glue.
 

cboath

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I only monitored the temp after kicking out of the game, but it reads 44-45 about 2 seconds after it freezes. Can't fall too far in that timeframe. Maybe 5-6 degrees max i'd think. I don't know how to monitor it in game, unless there's a utility i'm unaware of.

As it stands now, temp is at 55 and that's while running ATiTool for the last 15 minutes (max core)

I've only installed one driver on this build - ever: 169.21

I figured as much with the mosfet, but i'd read elsewhere about using a small bit of it. This was maybe the size of the sharp end of a pin. Probably will wind up just pulling that sink off. One chip maybe 1/16" square shouldn't be that big a deal...

 

Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: cboath
Going to let it burn in an hour or so and hope the mosfet that fell off and that was re-attached with a bit of superglue holds.

LOL!

that is not what superglue is used for, your supposed to use thermal epoxy or thermal tape.
 

cboath

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Yeah, i feel kind stupid about that now...but i swear on a stack i read it somewhere. A wee bit wouldn't hurt and help with the stick-to-it-iveness. REGARDLESS, it's off now and cleaned up.

Just prior to that, i managed to ATiTool to 25 minutes with no errors whatsoever, max temp 60. Also, played crysis 35 minutes. No issues. I'm puzzled as to what's up? I removed and replaced the side of the case in that time? Could i have kinked a wire or something that caused it? I didn't see anything that could fit the bill, but i'm at a loss otherwise..

How long a burn in should I do and what app should be used?
 

cboath

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same damn thing today.

I'm approaching the mine in crysis, could that be it in itself?
 

cboath

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Error log shows a lot of cryphysics.dll issues. Reading up on that it looks sound card related. Disabled the sound and played an hour with no issues.

Could moving the sound card one slot over cause issues like that? That's the ONLY thing i did to the card. I moved it to plug in another USB connector - the old location sorta blocked me from being able to plug it in. I notice on reboot it redetected my sound card. Could that cause it?
 

Killrose

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I've used superglue before and mixed it with AS3. Actually seems to perform pretty good and the AS3 pollutes the superglue enough that it does not hold real well and ramsinks can be removed. Another method is to use superglue in only two corners of the chip while putting your AS3 or whatever on the rest of the chip.
 

heymrdj

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Originally posted by: cboath
Error log shows a lot of cryphysics.dll issues. Reading up on that it looks sound card related. Disabled the sound and played an hour with no issues.

Could moving the sound card one slot over cause issues like that? That's the ONLY thing i did to the card. I moved it to plug in another USB connector - the old location sorta blocked me from being able to plug it in. I notice on reboot it redetected my sound card. Could that cause it?

Did you delete sound card drivers, shut down, remove card, restart, shutdown, put card in new slot, restart? If you didn't drivers for the sound card could me mucking you up. You need to uninstall the drivers, remove the card, reboot, shutdown, reinsert the card, and install new drivers.
 

cboath

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Once I got down to that level, that was the plan. Then i realized how late it was and i had to get showered and dressed and head out for a SB party.

P.S. THANK YOU NY GIANTS!